Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Mynok

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Simple fact is this:

- The picture is not offensive in any way shape or form.
- Just as important, the comments posted on the thread concerning the picture were not offensive or demeaning.
- There was essentially a few harmless comments made in a spirit of fun. Nothing for anyone to get uptight about.
- One person made an issue of it. The same person who - while deciding in his infinite wisdom that the picture of the young lady would get the thread locked - quite happily took part in a political discussion re Libya just a few days beforehand on The Thread.
- This "discussion" quickly turned nasty and that person made the following delightful post - "There's not one square centimeter of Libya that's worth one drop of European or American blood. So no, Hortlund, (you stuck-up, holier-than-thou git) I don't care."
- So political talk, abuse of another threadster for daring to have an alternative opinion, and (mild) swearing is okay but not that picture? Double standards per chance?

Anyway, I was drawn to The Thread because it was supposedly a place "where people who do not take themselves too seriously" could hang out and post whatever came to mind. There are some good guys on here, but frankly I get too much grief from one individual to make it worthwhile.

Hortlund is not a Threadster but a passerby. Those two have had run-ins before. You would be wise not to judge about that of which you know nothing.

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Mynok

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Simple fact is this:

- The picture is not offensive in any way shape or form.
- Just as important, the comments posted on the thread concerning the picture were not offensive or demeaning.
- There was essentially a few harmless comments made in a spirit of fun. Nothing for anyone to get uptight about.
- One person made an issue of it. The same person who - while deciding in his infinite wisdom that the picture of the young lady would get the thread locked - quite happily took part in a political discussion re Libya just a few days beforehand on The Thread.
- This "discussion" quickly turned nasty and that person made the following delightful post - "There's not one square centimeter of Libya that's worth one drop of European or American blood. So no, Hortlund, (you stuck-up, holier-than-thou git) I don't care."
- So political talk, abuse of another threadster for daring to have an alternative opinion, and (mild) swearing is okay but not that picture? Double standards per chance?

Anyway, I was drawn to The Thread because it was supposedly a place "where people who do not take themselves too seriously" could hang out and post whatever came to mind. There are some good guys on here, but frankly I get too much grief from one individual to make it worthwhile.

Hortlund is not a Threadster but a passerby. Those two have had run-ins before. You would be wise not to judge about that of which you know nothing.

Warspite1

Mynok - that comment is unworthy of you.

Firstly, the fact that they have history is - as you well know - not the point. Even if they "have history" the language used in that post, and the tone of the comment, is not up to forum rules and standards. Nor indeed was the nature of the political discussion in the first place.

Secondly, I assumed from USS America's oft repeated refrain about this thread being open to anyone, that a "threadster" was anyone that took up that invitation and joined in the fun. If that is not the case, and instead there is an elite group that can verbally treat "non-threadsters" or "passers by" in a way that breaks forum rules then so be it. Is that what you are saying?

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Mynok

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Simple fact is this:

- The picture is not offensive in any way shape or form.
- Just as important, the comments posted on the thread concerning the picture were not offensive or demeaning.
- There was essentially a few harmless comments made in a spirit of fun. Nothing for anyone to get uptight about.
- One person made an issue of it. The same person who - while deciding in his infinite wisdom that the picture of the young lady would get the thread locked - quite happily took part in a political discussion re Libya just a few days beforehand on The Thread.
- This "discussion" quickly turned nasty and that person made the following delightful post - "There's not one square centimeter of Libya that's worth one drop of European or American blood. So no, Hortlund, (you stuck-up, holier-than-thou git) I don't care."
- So political talk, abuse of another threadster for daring to have an alternative opinion, and (mild) swearing is okay but not that picture? Double standards per chance?

Anyway, I was drawn to The Thread because it was supposedly a place "where people who do not take themselves too seriously" could hang out and post whatever came to mind. There are some good guys on here, but frankly I get too much grief from one individual to make it worthwhile.

Hortlund is not a Threadster but a passerby. Those two have had run-ins before. You would be wise not to judge about that of which you know nothing.

Really? I've seen him post many times here. This used to be a welcoming place. I am very , very dissappointed with some of the comments I've seen posted here. In the past I've always defended the forum (and especially this thread).

Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


I have some sympathy for T because I think we are similar creatures. I, too, have the annoying habit of going off half-cocked when pet peeves are posted. Not an excuse nor an attempt to defend him. He needs neither from me. Just saying I'm a little more patient because I kind of know where he's coming from.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


No, I wasn't. I've regretted many a post of mine.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

As far as it being inoffensive to post the photo in question about it being "inoffensive" - well, i've seen photos on billboards in Britain that would quite frankly get you arrested over in the USA. This forum is, for better or worse, run from the USA so, alas, we must conform to local standards.

Sorry Bob, but I've seen billboards with women wearing less in the middle of NYC and to my knowledge not one concerned mother had filed any complaints that her child is now mentally damaged because he caught sight of a partially exposed boob (which this young lady does not, by the way).

As I said in the other post, I feel that there is nothing objectionable about the picture other than what an impartial observer might read into it.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


I have some sympathy for T because I think we are similar creatures. I, too, have the annoying habit of going off half-cocked when pet peeves are posted. Not an excuse nor an attempt to defend him. He needs neither from me. Just saying I'm a little more patient because I kind of know where he's coming from.

Same here. I'm sure that all 3 of us have a temper (hell, I think USS Mike is the only one who doesnt, the poor thing). And as I said before, you, me, T, Steve, and pretty much everyone else has made a post of that nature in the past. C'est la guerre. Were you proud of it? I know I wasnt.

Mike

"Good times will set you free" - Jimmy Buffett

"They need more rum punch" - Me


Artwork by The Amazing Dixie

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

As far as it being inoffensive to post the photo in question about it being "inoffensive" - well, i've seen photos on billboards in Britain that would quite frankly get you arrested over in the USA. This forum is, for better or worse, run from the USA so, alas, we must conform to local standards.

Sorry Bob, but I've seen billboards with women wearing less in the middle of NYC and to my knowledge not one concerned mother had filed any complaints that her child is now mentally damaged because he caught sight of a partially exposed boob (which this young lady does not, by the way).

As I said in the other post, I feel that there is nothing objectionable about the picture other than what an impartial observer might read into it.

Really? Do you go on women's forums that discuss such things?

There are billboards here in Dallas that i've thought were pretty funny (and with NO photos, i might add) that have apparently caused rather marked outrage in the feminine community (this from my wife talking to members of the local women's club).

So, just because you or i don't think its offensive does not mean it isn't offensive to other people.

Matrix originally stated they did not want pictures of scantily clad females posted here on the Thread. Despite the fact that you or i don't think they are offensive, they've told us not to do it. You can ignore this if you like, but don't be too surprised if someone decides to lock up the Thread because of violations of the terms of use.

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ORIGINAL: USS America

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


I have some sympathy for T because I think we are similar creatures. I, too, have the annoying habit of going off half-cocked when pet peeves are posted. Not an excuse nor an attempt to defend him. He needs neither from me. Just saying I'm a little more patient because I kind of know where he's coming from.

Same here. I'm sure that all 3 of us have a temper (hell, I think USS Mike is the only one who doesnt, the poor thing). And as I said before, you, me, T, Steve, and pretty much everyone else has made a post of that nature in the past. C'est la guerre. Were you proud of it? I know I wasnt.

You flatter me, Yuri.

I happen to have a very long fuse, but when I ever reach the end of it, my explosions tend to be much stronger because they come less frequently.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


It's ironic that in the real world I'm very patient and rarely reach the point of anger. Boards seem to drag out a different persona unfortunately.

Not sure why that is. I do know that I fear greatly what would happen should I be pushed past that point in reality.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

As far as it being inoffensive to post the photo in question about it being "inoffensive" - well, i've seen photos on billboards in Britain that would quite frankly get you arrested over in the USA. This forum is, for better or worse, run from the USA so, alas, we must conform to local standards.

Sorry Bob, but I've seen billboards with women wearing less in the middle of NYC and to my knowledge not one concerned mother had filed any complaints that her child is now mentally damaged because he caught sight of a partially exposed boob (which this young lady does not, by the way).

As I said in the other post, I feel that there is nothing objectionable about the picture other than what an impartial observer might read into it.

Really? Do you go on women's forums that discuss such things?

There are billboards here in Dallas that i've thought were pretty funny (and with NO photos, i might add) that have apparently caused rather marked outrage in the feminine community (this from my wife talking to members of the local women's club).

So, just because you or i don't think its offensive does not mean it isn't offensive to other people.

Matrix originally stated they did not want pictures of scantily clad females posted here on the Thread. Despite the fact that you or i don't think they are offensive, they've told us not to do it. You can ignore this if you like, but don't be too surprised if someone decides to lock up the Thread because of violations of the terms of use.

Yes I was being facetious/sarcastic. And I do understand your point. But dont you think that all this is open to interpretation?

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Mynok

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Simple fact is this:

- The picture is not offensive in any way shape or form.
- Just as important, the comments posted on the thread concerning the picture were not offensive or demeaning.
- There was essentially a few harmless comments made in a spirit of fun. Nothing for anyone to get uptight about.
- One person made an issue of it. The same person who - while deciding in his infinite wisdom that the picture of the young lady would get the thread locked - quite happily took part in a political discussion re Libya just a few days beforehand on The Thread.
- This "discussion" quickly turned nasty and that person made the following delightful post - "There's not one square centimeter of Libya that's worth one drop of European or American blood. So no, Hortlund, (you stuck-up, holier-than-thou git) I don't care."
- So political talk, abuse of another threadster for daring to have an alternative opinion, and (mild) swearing is okay but not that picture? Double standards per chance?

Anyway, I was drawn to The Thread because it was supposedly a place "where people who do not take themselves too seriously" could hang out and post whatever came to mind. There are some good guys on here, but frankly I get too much grief from one individual to make it worthwhile.

Hortlund is not a Threadster but a passerby. Those two have had run-ins before. You would be wise not to judge about that of which you know nothing.

Really? I've seen him post many times here. This used to be a welcoming place. I am very , very dissappointed with some of the comments I've seen posted here. In the past I've always defended the forum (and especially this thread).

Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake.

Lets not fall into the fallacy of judging a community by the actions of individuals, St. Stephen.

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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Yuri the only standard I judge on, the only rule that I understand should not be broken, is no personal attacks. We've just had one here, and no one brought it up. We are all so fixated on miss thong butt that we completely blew off what really matters. That's why I'm dissapointed. Actually I'm down right PO'd. So I'm going to take a nice , long self imposed vacation before I completely loose my mind and say a few things I shouldn't. Because I understand self censorship and civic responsibility. But the "He's not one of us and he has no right to speak" crap makes me totally ballistic. And as you suggest, I don't want to say anything I'll regret.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


The right to be a Thread brother is earned. It's earned by several things, but one of the foremost is not bringing up the political crap like Hortlund that caused T's ire. Have your opinion on whether it was overdone, but don't fail to recognize that the instigation was anti-Thread principles. From the start.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


The right to be a Thread brother is earned. It's earned by several things, but one of the foremost is not bringing up the political crap like Hortlund that caused T's ire. Have your opinion on whether it was overdone, but don't fail to recognize that the instigation was anti-Thread principles. From the start.

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Tithe,

Sheesh, miss a couple of days and you have to back up 3 pages!  Wow!

Bigger boys stole my sig

(in reply to PaxMondo)

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I'm sure Spring will turn up at some point.

"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.

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ORIGINAL: warspite1


I'm sure Spring will turn up at some point.