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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 8:04:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Leningrad. He's only kept infantry (the AGN Panzers were in theory sent to save or help the Panzers in the Valdai Hills). If the tanks don't come back or if the front is stabilized on the next 2 turns, I would be diverting 10 or 15 divisions to other fronts.




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 8:15:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, the infiltration south of Lake Ilmen will cost me 2 rifle divisions. Not too bad Now I pull back. Let's see: Moscow, right hook or simply nothing?




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 8:25:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the Western Front it looks like 2ndACR is now making a pantagruelic effort to advance. Vitebsk finally captured (on turn 2 he was at 6 hexes of the city)

EDIT: no wait, I think he captured Vitebsk on the last turn.




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 8:30:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		His panzers are back in the center What are they going to do?




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 8:34:59 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 8:43:23 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 10:42:59 PM   
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Mynok, if we talk about this KO Tournament aka the first 17 Turns of the GC, that's hard, really hard (I mean, hiding your intentions as the Gemans).

The Germans have 17 turns to achieve their objectives. They cannot speculate. They must focus on their objectives and of course get them if they can.


Yes it is hard.


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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/27/2011 11:12:03 PM   
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And of course you will step up now and show you can do better?




I'm visiting this forum while waiting for 1.04. This patch will turn this game upside down in prepping and surviving first blizzard season for axis.

After I've played AI again to get to grips with the changes you'll get the opportunity to comment my mistakes as axis. But you won't see me sending tanks and mot divs to fight in swamps and mountains.

We'll see how long this game lasts.





Uh huh. All I see is cheap comments from the cheap seats.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 9:57:19 AM   
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Uh huh. All I see is cheap comments from the cheap seats.




Great contribution by your side, showing your worth. Go on trying to initiate a pissing contest, you only wet yourself.

You're free to object with my analysis, but with arguments, not with crap like this...



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 1:45:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Reconvet


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Uh huh. All I see is cheap comments from the cheap seats.




Great contribution by your side, showing your worth. Go on trying to initiate a pissing contest, you only wet yourself.

You're free to object with my analysis, but with arguments, not with crap like this...




Hey tough guy, it takes a lot of guts to rip on an opponent who can't even defend himself against your "opinions" because he is not supposed to be in the thread. You have no evidence that 2ndACR is a "half-hearted opponent" or a "poor Axis". The other posters here can't say anything that would give away what he may or may not be trying to do since they have access to his AAR. These types of comments are very poor form and don't give credit to TD for his excellent game. I can state without reservation that from what I have seen in 2ndACR's AAR that he is into the game and doing his best. He has made mistakes and has admitted as much and has also given credit to TD for some of the good moves TD has made as well. This is not someone mailing it in.

When the Germans were absolutely getting slaughtered during the blizzard before the latest patch and long after most other Axis players quit, 2ndACR continued his game and tried to make a go of it in 1942. His AAR was one of the key AAR's to draw attention to the fact there were some serious issues in game play coming out of winter. (At least imo). The guy is not a quitter and to have you ripping him in a place he can't say a thing is silly.

It is one thing to comment on moves/strategy of an opponent, even when you consider them not very good, but personal attacks are not necessary at all.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 2:34:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Reconvert, I think Aurelian and Klydon are correct on this one: you should not attack 2ndACR here He has his own AAR. In fact you are correct: panzers should not be in swamp and mountain hexes. But you should be saying that to him on his AAR: you'd be helping him, I'm certain he will appreciate any advice (as I do).

On this AAR you should ONLY criticize ME I clearly said it on the first messages of this AAR: harsh criticism is welcome. It's still true. So feel free to say whatever you want but don't forget 2ndACR can't reply here. Fair play

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 2:35:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think all the Axis players have tried moving something through the marshes... to varying degrees of success.

Kudos to 2ndAC. He is one of the most committed members of the community.

As for 1.04, I expect, from what I understand, that the Axis player will be getting a better start. But I think if folks think that somehow this is going to be a cake walk for the Axis player... they are going to get a rude awakening.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 2:58:56 PM   
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Turn 14

18 september 1941


Three more turns and mud is here! Yes! One more little push!

Well, now I know 2ndACR's objective... He said it on the email

"And another [turn]. Now the push to straighten out my lines begins"

I don't think the panzers near the Lake Ilmen will move towards Moscow. He will push towards Leningrad, I suspect. I am going to reinforce the area north of the armies containing these panzers (8 and 27). Just in case.

Oh, and now I have the 2nd Guards Rifle Division. The attacks are now paying dividends




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 3:07:54 PM   
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Uh huh. All I see is cheap comments from the cheap seats.




Great contribution by your side, showing your worth. Go on trying to initiate a pissing contest, you only wet yourself.

You're free to object with my analysis, but with arguments, not with crap like this...




You get the contribution you deserve. It's always easier to claim that you can do better.

But that is all it is. A claim. And an empty, hollow one, at that.

Why don't you go to 2ndACR's thread and tell him how much better you can do.

Since you have not played the Axis against a human, you "analysis", is nothing more than anal.

EDIT: 5 pages of ACR's thread. Not a single post by you telling him how much of a "poor Axis half hearted player" he is. Why is that?



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 3:08:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lava

As for 1.04, I expect, from what I understand, that the Axis player will be getting a better start. But I think if folks think that somehow this is going to be a cake walk for the Axis player... they are going to get a rude awakening.


A better start? The current start is not good enough: the Frontier District Massacres?



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 3:09:24 PM   
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Reconvert, I think Aurelian and Klydon are correct on this one: you should not attack 2ndACR here He has his own AAR. In fact you are correct: panzers should not be in swamp and mountain hexes. But you should be saying that to him on his AAR: you'd be helping him, I'm certain he will appreciate any advice (as I do).

On this AAR you should ONLY criticize ME I clearly said it on the first messages of this AAR: harsh criticism is welcome. It's still true. So feel free to say whatever you want but don't forget 2ndACR can't reply here. Fair play


You're doing better than I have to date.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 4:51:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice job on getting some guards units. Be interesting to see if you have any special plans for them or not.

I usually pull them out of the line and redeploy them as a reserve to let them build up strength and see about trying to attaching them to a Shock army. Shock armies with a good number of Guards units in them can really be ugly since they get the double moral bump from being a Guards unit and being in a Shock army. No need to see them go poof early if the Germans happen to get them encircled in the fall battles. 

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 7:02:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		As for the two Guards divisions (I hope I'll be having more on next turns), yes, I pull them back. The 1st is refitting. I will do the same with the 2nd. The truth is having armies reserves is hard (if not almost impossible) on the first months of the war. If I well understood only the units which morale is minimum 55 should be on reserve mode. If it's less, either they might rout or will not even be sent to support an attack/defence. This means the Soviets almost don't have armies reserves And I want them! So in theory I will attach these Guards divisions to x armies on reserve mode, behind the front.

Later, during the blizzard, yes, in theory they should be attached to Shock Armies (morale bonus)

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 7:59:52 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 8:11:38 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 8:13:27 PM   
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Later, during the blizzard, yes, in theory they should be attached to Shock Armies (morale bonus)


Don't forget the vodka. lots of vodka.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 8:17:00 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 8:33:42 PM   
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Later, during the blizzard, yes, in theory they should be attached to Shock Armies (morale bonus)


Don't forget the vodka. lots of vodka.


Vodka, accordions, balalaikas and ushankas. I know, lots of them




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 8:47:27 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 9:20:51 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 9:26:24 PM   
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" … nothing more than anal. … “



Aurelian, go seek yourself another tree.

a) You're totally off topic, you don't bring anything to falsify my analysis
b) you're still only wetting yourself, and will keep doing so (degenerating symptoms), and
c) your use of the a-word clearly indicates you haven't passed a certain childhood phase, so go seek professional help, laddie.

My sympathies are with TD, whoever really reads my posts sees my concern that TD isn't getting the game effort he deserves. I had an axis opponent turning awol in turn 13 two weeks ago, who made similar mistakes, that's why I succombed to venting my concerns here.

As for my analysis: Not having tanks fight in mountains and swamps is just very basic game mechanism comprehension. Nobody needs to play a pbem to prove this, it's enough to read the manual (combat and movement penalties, along with suffering supplies due to an even more strained supply path through difficult terrain).



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 9:35:05 PM   
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On this AAR you should ONLY criticize ME I clearly said it on the first messages of this AAR: harsh criticism is welcome. It's still true. So feel free to say whatever you want but don't forget 2ndACR can't reply here. Fair play


I just hope you're happy with what you get in this game and do wish you get as far as I'd want to as soviet player.

As posted above: I had an axis opponent vanish without comment a short time ago under comparable circumstances. My Apologies if my venting of my concerns went too far. It reflects my desire to be able to learn more for quite some time in this great AAR.



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 9:40:50 PM   
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Reconvert, sorry but you are wrong, I am having a lot of fun with this game Overall, I suspect it's going to be a rather historical Blitzkrieg. He is not very close to Moscow, true, but he still has 3 turns to do that.

After all maybe the Germans are NOT Supermen during the summer. I never believed this thing but of course there is always a small doubt. On most of the AARs Leningrad and Moscow are falling. But are the Soviet players REALLY defending these places? And yes, I am thinking about a MASSIVE defence (both cities deserve a SUPREME effort if threatened, in my opinion). And to be honest, I haven't seen this "supreme effort"

In other words, I think the German war machine can be stopped. But then I might play versus PeeDeeAitch or Q-Ball --excellent Axis players-- and lose Leningrad and Moscow. So who knows!

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 9:56:38 PM   
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LOL, now the astronauts can't miss this mega horde. Impossible!

But there is of course the other side of the coin. I'm very strong here = I'm very weak elsewhere. As long as that weak part is NOT vital everything should be ok.




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/28/2011 10:25:26 PM   
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I haven't been in the AAR's much lately, I've moved onto the game Distant Worlds.

I was wondering why your AAR is 3 times bigger than 2nd ACR's?

Then I noticed the handbags being thrown around, and general cat-fighting.

Nice work, love the lack of seriousness.

My favourites were ''This is Leningrad'', and ''Surely the Astronauts can see my Leningrad buildup''.

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