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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 4:47:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm, no, Mynok Sabre and PDH said the carpet defence can be broken in ONE turn. Just because 2ndACR -and possibly many players- doesn't know how to defeat it (yet) this does not mean it is a sophisticated defence

Sabre, MUCH more experienced than me (a mere noob) said you need various defensive lines to really slow a competent German player down.

And it makes sense. Think about the mega hordes I'm using in these carpets... IF this carpet can be defeated in ONE turn (and as I have said both Sabre and PDH said so) then this means one thing: you are lost. Because all the eggs are in one basket. There's basically nothing behind the carpet.

Which means I have to learn this defensive technique. And presto

Well, I still think a carpet defence can be very useful here and there. A last stand for example, like in Leningrad on my game.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 7:25:43 AM   
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it will have 100 damage & repair by 1 a turn (at 1st glance)
quite a long run before becoming operationnal

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 9:18:16 AM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 6:18:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I really want to know how he's kept his army with such high numbers, and yet still managed to counter attack pretty much every chance he gets?

What is the secret, Tullius?



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 6:31:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Encircled

I really want to know how he's kept his army with such high numbers, and yet still managed to counter attack pretty much every chance he gets?

What is the secret, Tullius?




Hmm, not sure there's some secret It's very simple. I think that it's all about concentrating my forces. This is by the way one of the most basic principles of war. In a nuclear era war this is obviously a suicide but in WW2 it's still perhaps rule #1 In other words, I want to hit hard, with overwhelming forces. Same thing when I defend.

I have a big army simply because I haven't allowed my opponent to destroy it. That is my objective #3 (after Moscow and Leningrad, in that order).

EDIT: and don't forget that when you see I'm very strong in x place, I'm very weak in y and z places. The key? You have to know where you NEED to be stong and where you can afford to be weak

EDIT 2: and everything I did is on this AAR.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 9:19:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Encircled, now the Red Army has 5,2 million soldiers But the fact that I concentrate my forces may create this illusion: that I have lots of hordes (when you see this concentration that is). That might explain why you seem to be "surprised".

Anyway, having 5 million men just before the blizzard has to be bad news for my opponent, if I remember correctly

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 9:48:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I massively attacked the two German divisions but they held LOL!

And Vatutin and Tolbukhin had been appointed as bosses of the two armies that were attacking And Zhukov had been appointed as Boss-in-Chief of the Southwestern Front!

Morale of the story?

I should start a UTTER MADNESS thread full of vitriol!

Nah... when they said the CV is divided by 8 during the mud... they were not kidding

The good thing is that next turn is snow. Yes, this means the bulldog (the Tom & Jerry analogy that is) will not be tied anymore... and he should be chasing Tom (that is me) But maybe I will have that extra turn that might definitely kill (or NOT) these brave German soldiers.




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 9:53:36 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 9:57:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Motorized division has been totally surrounded. I only attacked with 2 units (no MPs left) to sort of soften them. They obviously held.




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 9:58:51 PM   
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I wonder if he has enough forces nearby left to be able to beat the Russians back where he can get to those guys or has just written them off.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 10:02:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cookie Monster, no, more a 5:1 2ndACR has been of course airdropping kartoffel and choucroute What a silly thing to do he should have airdropped Iron Crosses instead! They are heroes now. Food? That's for sissies




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 10:06:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Klydon, maybe I have this extra turn

Oh, if he is sending a 7th Cavalry thing from the south that might help to protect Stalino. But I really doubt I will be holding this town even without the panzers




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 11:39:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 99,98% done. I forgot I could do many hasty attacks against the surrounded divisions. Yes, my men will be tired but I wanted to soften the target. Before the attacks the CV was 2=6. Now it's 1=2. That might make the difference on next turn. Maybe




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/6/2011 11:43:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, and the 1st Shock Army is here I have bought many support units, as you can see. I will attach minimum some Guards divisions (right now I have three) and of course the leader will be a good commander, not the incompetent moron now in charge.




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/7/2011 12:14:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cpt flam

you'd better know that liberating a city
it will have 100 damage & repair by 1 a turn (at 1st glance)
quite a long run before becoming operationnal


Sorry, I forgot to comment his

Well, then the game is not simulating the real war here. The objective of the '44 campaign in the south was liberating places economically important. The Soviets didn't wait until 1946 to put these reconquered areas to good use. So maybe an offensive in the south (blizzard offensive) should simply push the enemy. Oh well.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/7/2011 1:13:22 AM   
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Turn 22

13 november 1941


YESSSSS!! Mwhahahahahahahahahaha

The two German Infantry Divisions are finally in the bag...! I thought I would not make it... The bulldog almost caught me

So after all Operation "Watch Out! Monsters Under Your Bed" was 100% successful. Oh, and I wanted to know who runs faster in the mud... German infantry or Soviet cavalry... Obviously the latter




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/7/2011 1:16:22 AM   
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But I guess we'll be seeing them again in six weeks, next time they'll be Noobs.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/7/2011 1:16:25 AM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/8/2011 2:36:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the very first time since I started the game I am not sending the newly arrived units to the front (and I did that because that's a luxury the Soviets cannot afford during the Blitzkrieg: the fascist hordes threaten to swallow Mother Russia, you need everything to stop them) So I'm following the manual and on the last 2 turns have kept these units far from the enemy. I send them mostly to big cities and dots (small locations), far from the font line. Hmm, I can see the morale is increasing much faster!



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/8/2011 3:03:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am reorganzing the airforce as well. I only had obsolete planes in the front. Now I am sending all these planes to the National Reserve (their morale and experience are high so they might be ready to come back with upgraded MODERN machines) and bringing modern machines. I put my fighters in the IAD bases. So now every front will have (in 1 IAD base when it's possible):

MiG-3s = two units
LaGG-3s = two units
Yak-1s = two units

Total = 6 units

The most abundant production is of MiG-3s and LaGG-3s: I have 1.469 and 1.041 right now in the pool (and only 239 Yak-1s) So in fact I guess I could be upgrading many units with obsolete planes to these modern machines.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/8/2011 7:52:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Air reorganization takes time

Now it's almost 99,87% done though

Soooo... I visited the wiki thing and found many interesting advices there. I have done exactly what is said there. One SAD for night tactical bombers and another SAD for IL-2s. Both have to be near the front. One BAD with two Il-4s units, two SB-2s units and two Pe-2s units. They are not near the front. Oh, and I attached one fighter bomber unit (obsolete planes) to this BAD. Protection duties. In theory they should be intercepting Axis bombers if they want to bomb this BAD thing.

Now all the Air Commanders' air ratings are MINIMUM 5. Most of them are 6 or even 7. In other words: incompetents out!

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/8/2011 9:23:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok. No big changes in Leningrad area so no need of screenshot. As for the Northwest Front: as I said his panzers have more or less left the area, looking for shelter, no doubt. Chickens!

He had also retreated his infantry 2 or 3 hexes... Hehehehehe, if he thinks that is going to save him from my hordes during the blizzard... So I have obviously advanced all my lines. If he retreats again, I will advance again and so on and so on I want to start the blizzard massac... er, attacks sorry, next to him.

The 8 and 27 armies cover the whole front. The 11 is behind. And on next turn the Volkhov Front will be available too! On this same area, south of Lake Ilmen. 3 armies already assigned: one of them the 1st Shock with one Guards Rifle Division in it




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/8/2011 9:44:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, I am retreating and concentrating the cavalry in 3-units stacks to form let's say around ten Cavalry Corps on december.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/9/2011 3:04:24 AM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/9/2011 3:19:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, the transport planes in the VVS bases only fly night missions. In fact on this turn I have assigned big bombers TB-3 or something like that to these bases (night mission), so they should deliver supplies to partisans too.

Oh, ALL my armies (even the ones that arrived this turn: 60, 62, etc.) have a LOT of support, since the beginning of the game

Minimum:
4 x artillery
2 x sapper Bns
3 x RR Bdes

Some of them get as well
Mortar
TD Batery
Ski thing
Katiushas

Support is not a problem. I'm paying a LOT of attention to this

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/9/2011 6:24:09 AM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/9/2011 1:56:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		How does the CAP work anyway? I am not sure the the fighter at the base really protects the base - or if the CAP happens from fighters at multiple base which theorectically stage smoewhere and then try to protect the airfiled under attack. Any insights?

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/9/2011 2:33:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok... now that part of his panzers in the south were diverted to obviously try to help the two trapped German divisions --desperate operation which obviously did not work -- I am launching a very small operation in the south. As you may imagine I am trying to save Stalino! So I am throwing some units through his lines: yes, there is a GAP.

If I well understood blizzard starts on turn 24. Is that correct? Soooo, if that's true he's only got ONE more turn and then... HE will be the one having ANTS If he does not pay attention to these nasty infiltrators he might have some er... "problems".

We will see




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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/9/2011 2:37:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		In theory I already have planes which should be intercepting any enemy attack: the 6 units in my IAD base. The fighter unit I am placing in this BAD thing is simply an extra. I don't know if this will make any difference.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 4/9/2011 3:57:36 PM   
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If I well understood blizzard starts on turn 24. Is that correct?


Turn 25, mate.



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