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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/25/2011 11:06:20 PM   
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Here's the Soviet production figures for T4:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/25/2011 11:56:39 PM   
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Interesting what the Axis are doing in the south. They are basically putting no pressure towards Kiev and south of the swamp there and moving more towards the bend.

Would recommend getting a lot of those NW army guys south of Tallinn moving out and between the Germans and Leningrad NE of Pskov. Can leave a screen there to slow them down, but that area is basically a death trap should the Germans drive straight north from Pskov. Speaking of Leningrad, need to get some troops going on the Luga river line because the Germans are coming. Really need to get a checkerboard of units between Pskov and the Luga to slow down their advance and also get defenses set up near the Volkhov.

Larry, I think your lines look better in the center in terms of delay/depth. Makes it harder for the Germans to encircle. In the south, they are fairly linear, which makes it easier for the Germans to break through and pocket you, especially given the tank country down there. Case in point is that line you have on the Dnester NW of Odessa is very dangerous and subject to the panzers coming down and linking up with 11th army for a big encirclement there. You can't afford to lose those guys and the have done their job in slowing down 11th Army/Rumanian forces.

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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/26/2011 1:10:03 AM   
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A couple of notes, some of which overlap or are similar to what I wrote in your AAR vs Pelton.

You seem to love your single defensive lines with empty hinterlands. Your goal at the beginning has to be to slow the Axis player down. You are not capable of directly stopping him at any point if he wants to go through there.

How do you slow him down? With units. If you have your units in places he doesn't want to move (fast), then your units are being wasted. Now, it is not possible to have a unit on every single space through which he could move, so you have to make each of your units that you do have as effective in slowing him down as possible.

How do you do that? With zones of control. Your goal has to be, that his spearhead units can never move through any of your hexes without paying the movement penalty for moving through enemy zones of control.

How do you achieve this? Checkerboarding. Have one empty hex between each unit (aka have your units two hexes apart). If you do that you can cover a lot more area with your zones of control. A line of 10 units can cover at most 34 hexes (one hex in front, the hex they are in, the hex behind them). If he has his units in contact with the line, you can cut that down by one third, so only about 20 hexes. If you instead checkerboard with those 10 units, the can cover a total of 53 hexes with their zones of control. Note that stacking units - unless they are able to stop the enemy or force him to make a deliberate attack instead of a hasty attack - will not help you slow him down.

Look, for example, at your defensive line in front of the Rumanians. You have one single line. There are enemy mobile units to their north. What units do you have that will slow down any move of theirs down behind your single line and make another nice pocket of your units down there?

Another example of that can be seen in the south from turn 2-3. You had a nice single defensive line, with only some fort units in the rear. So what did he do? Penetrate the line in one point, fan out behind it and start pocketing your troops.

Which brings me to the next point: Pull back your troops when they are in danger of being pocketed. After he penetrated your single defensive line in the south, he was threatening to pocket the units to the south-west of Proskurov. You should have been able to evacuate all units except maybe the cavalry unit. Instead, you didn't move them and let everything be pocketed.

He is threatening to do the same with all the units west of Zhitomir. Those units are currently almost completely worthless. If you pull them back, they could checkerboard the entire area in front of the Dnepr.

The most dangerous units on the board are his mobile forces. Wherever they are, that is where the majority of your forces have to go. Currently, his mobile forces are in front of Vinnitsa, at the Smolnsk land bridge, and at Pskov. That is where your forces have to be. The two AARs by TulliusDetritus (One and two) show how it is done.

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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/26/2011 8:55:14 AM   
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Good ideas and good advice.  Thanks.

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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/27/2011 7:42:38 PM   
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Here's the front lines before anything Soviet has moved:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/27/2011 7:44:21 PM   
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Here's the turn 5 Soviet destroyed units. There looks like a lot of them but actually there's some disbanded Corps HQ's in there too.




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/27/2011 7:44:56 PM   
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Here's the ground losses so far:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/27/2011 7:45:18 PM   
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And of course the OOB:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/27/2011 7:45:49 PM   
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Here's the Soviet production figures so far:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T4 - 4/27/2011 7:47:49 PM   
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I was wondering how many tanks ( T-34's ) I had in my game with Pelton and thought I'd practice in this game to find them. Finally I figured it out that you need to click on the fielded number in the production screen and the commanders report opens with the numbers I'm looking for. This screen shows, I think, that I'm doing good for tanks yet in this game.




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1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T8 - 4/29/2011 10:10:04 PM   
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Here's the T8 front lines before any Soviet movement:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T8 - 4/29/2011 10:11:34 PM   
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Here's the ground losses so far:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T8 - 4/29/2011 10:11:55 PM   
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Here's the OOB:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T8 - 4/29/2011 10:12:22 PM   
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Here's Soviet production for T8:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T9 - 4/30/2011 4:43:55 AM   
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Here's the front lines before any Soviet movement:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T9 - 4/30/2011 4:44:34 AM   
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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T9 - 4/30/2011 4:45:02 AM   
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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T9 - 4/30/2011 4:45:41 AM   
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Here's T9 Soviet production:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T9 - 4/30/2011 4:50:09 AM   
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I would pull out of the Leningrad region entirely, that situation is unsalvageable. Also, you need to pull the Center-South back across the board unless you can cut off that Bryansk hook he is developing.

I would think about a line from Kaluga to Kursk to Kharkov in the South and from Volgda to Torzhok to Kaluga in the North. Seems extreme but not sure why you would defend the indefensible up north.

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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T10 - 5/1/2011 1:15:24 AM   
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Here's the front lines before any Soviet movement:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T10 - 5/1/2011 1:16:08 AM   
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Here's the ground losses so far:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T10 - 5/1/2011 1:16:32 AM   
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Here's the OOB:




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RE: 1.04.11 Fulkerson vs Zort T10 - 5/1/2011 1:16:59 AM   
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Here's the state of Soviet production so far:




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RE: 1.04.14 Fulkerson vs Zort T11 - 5/1/2011 11:39:53 PM   
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Here's the T11 front lines before any Soviet movement has taken place:




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RE: 1.04.14 Fulkerson vs Zort T11 - 5/1/2011 11:40:49 PM   
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Here's the ground losses as of T11:




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RE: 1.04.14 Fulkerson vs Zort T11 - 5/1/2011 11:41:13 PM   
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Here's the OOB as of T11:




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RE: 1.04.14 Fulkerson vs Zort T11 - 5/1/2011 11:41:39 PM   
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Here's the state of Soviet production as of T11:




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RE: 1.04.14 Fulkerson vs Zort T11 - 5/2/2011 3:26:54 AM   
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Zort mentioned you guys were on random weather and you had a rain turn in there, which is a godsend. Really can't stress enough you need to get out of the Leningrad region. He will take the city which will release the Finns to the North, which will pour down to the no move line and cut off your position there.

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1.04.14 Fulkerson vs Zort T12 - 5/2/2011 4:34:24 PM   
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Here's the front lines as of T12 before any Soviet movement:




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RE: 1.04.14 Fulkerson vs Zort T12 - 5/2/2011 4:35:52 PM   
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