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RE: The door of India is open - 5/1/2011 7:34:17 PM

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Mili i think starts with static defences, might be hard. If i were going to hit the Marshalls i'd go Ocean, Nauru and Kusaie and threaten to cut the whole place off. Supplies a bitch to run in for the Japanese once you get a few air bases set up. Kusiae might not be holdable but i think you want to make him react.

Yes, some islands in that chain have Fortress level CD emplacements. Wotje comes to mind, and there are a couple of others. Unless you have a good strategic reason, I'd bypass most of this area, certainly early when ships are precious. Tarawa and Baker/Canton can be a thorn for transiting TFs, but Tarawa is a big bite to take before you have dedicated amphibs.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/1/2011 10:54:48 PM

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April 1-4 1942

I was mistaken...as usual.
Those ships weren't going back to Singapore...they were re-grouping and now they're all coming for Diego Garcia. We've spotted a big invasion TF, supported by a BB and several CAs...covered by the whole KB, divided in 2 different TFs...
RN will try to interfere...i think i should be arriving at Diego from CT during the 3rd day of invasion (invasion should start on the 5th)...let's see if my brit CAs can bring some havoc among the invaders...

At Karachi, after the last defeat, the jap CLs are retreating...he's been lucky cause one of my US subs fired 4 torps on a damaged CLs...2 missed and 2 different hits with no explosion

Near Calcutta the jap air bombing is becoming really Massive!...my troops that are guarding the rail-juction are getting liquified...and the jap tanks already broke the railway comunications north of Calcutta... the theatre will be abbandoned soon...in order but soon...

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/1/2011 11:01:20 PM

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/1/2011 11:03:09 PM

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Mili i think starts with static defences, might be hard. If i were going to hit the Marshalls i'd go Ocean, Nauru and Kusaie and threaten to cut the whole place off. Supplies a bitch to run in for the Japanese once you get a few air bases set up. Kusiae might not be holdable but i think you want to make him react.

Yes, some islands in that chain have Fortress level CD emplacements. Wotje comes to mind, and there are a couple of others. Unless you have a good strategic reason, I'd bypass most of this area, certainly early when ships are precious. Tarawa and Baker/Canton can be a thorn for transiting TFs, but Tarawa is a big bite to take before you have dedicated amphibs.

But Tarawa needs to be reinforced to become a problem, right? With all his assets up there in India shouldn't it be mostly unguarded?
And however Tarawa has the same logistical problems of the other islands in the Marshalls...what do you suggest?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/1/2011 11:14:48 PM

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Mili i think starts with static defences, might be hard. If i were going to hit the Marshalls i'd go Ocean, Nauru and Kusaie and threaten to cut the whole place off. Supplies a bitch to run in for the Japanese once you get a few air bases set up. Kusiae might not be holdable but i think you want to make him react.

Yes, some islands in that chain have Fortress level CD emplacements. Wotje comes to mind, and there are a couple of others. Unless you have a good strategic reason, I'd bypass most of this area, certainly early when ships are precious. Tarawa and Baker/Canton can be a thorn for transiting TFs, but Tarawa is a big bite to take before you have dedicated amphibs.

But Tarawa needs to be reinforced to become a problem, right? With all his assets up there in India shouldn't it be mostly unguarded?
And however Tarawa has the same logistical problems of the other islands in the Marshalls...what do you suggest?

If you are prepped for Tarawa then go there unless recon shows large numbers of Japs there. Recon Ocean/ Naurua and take em if they're empty.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/1/2011 11:35:56 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 06,7 42

Well...now...that was an Invasion!...800 AVs for Diego Garcia...i had 400 AVs there...and take a look at the results...pretty depressing...

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Pre-Invasion action off Diego Garcia - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

283 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
     BB Hyuga
     BB Ise
     CA Nachi
     CA Chikuma, Shell hits 1
     CL Oi, Shell hits 1
     CL Kitakami
     CL Kashima
     DD Suresushio
     DD Tachekaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
     DD Yanagi
     DD Usugumo
     DD Fubuki
     DD Nenohi
     DD Umikaze
     DD Asashio
     DD Hagikaze
     xAK Aratama Maru, Shell hits 2
     PB Chitose Maru
     LSD Akitsu Maru

Japanese ground losses:
     184 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     111 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
        Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Diego Garcia (11,62)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 19856 troops, 205 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 721

Defending force 9027 troops, 130 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 355

Japanese adjusted assault: 440

Allied adjusted defense: 238

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
     1854 casualties reported
        Squads: 3 destroyed, 146 disabled
        Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 89 disabled
        Engineers: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
     116 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
        Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
   9th Infantry Regiment
   38th Division
   20th Infantry Regiment
   16th Engineer Regiment
   10th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
   1st Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
   63rd Indian Brigade
   44th Indian Brigade
   48th Gurkha Brigade
   DG RN Detachment
   48th Light AA Regiment

.......

At least it took him some time to organize and put togheder this operation...i hoped my forces there (which were not that bad i'd say) could have last longer...but hey, that's war

The RN CVs arrived again near Scoodra and sunk a couple of DDs...these actions should make him feel less confortable when moving in the Arabian sea without the KB nearby...however the conquest of Diego really closes the door of Karachi...now there's only between him and the complete closure of my communication lines...

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/1/2011 11:37:17 PM

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Mili i think starts with static defences, might be hard. If i were going to hit the Marshalls i'd go Ocean, Nauru and Kusaie and threaten to cut the whole place off. Supplies a bitch to run in for the Japanese once you get a few air bases set up. Kusiae might not be holdable but i think you want to make him react.

Yes, some islands in that chain have Fortress level CD emplacements. Wotje comes to mind, and there are a couple of others. Unless you have a good strategic reason, I'd bypass most of this area, certainly early when ships are precious. Tarawa and Baker/Canton can be a thorn for transiting TFs, but Tarawa is a big bite to take before you have dedicated amphibs.

But Tarawa needs to be reinforced to become a problem, right? With all his assets up there in India shouldn't it be mostly unguarded?
And however Tarawa has the same logistical problems of the other islands in the Marshalls...what do you suggest?

If you are prepped for Tarawa then go there unless recon shows large numbers of Japs there. Recon Ocean/ Naurua and take em if they're empty.

How am i supposed to recon bases far beyond the frontline?....

Thanks in advance for all the good suggestions mate

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 12:15:14 AM

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So the situation in India is now the following.
We're at the beginning of April 42 and Bangladesh is already in Japs' dirty hands. Calcutta area is going to be evacuated due to the fact that it's impossible to defend against more than 100 advancing LCUs and some 300 bombers that hit my positions every day.
We'll redeploy on some better positions in the hope of gaining some more days.
With Diego Garcia falling in the next 2 days, the combined fleet could concentrate on a second target which could be Scoodra or a landing in the west coast of India.
The overall strategic situation, despite some minor victories, is really grimm. The presence of the KB forces me to hit and run with the RN...and the results have been pretty poor till now.
Karachi has some 1800 AVs now and growing...but what i've seen at Diego (an amphib landing of 2 divisions with almost no oppositions, against well prepared positions - we had 3 forts at the beginning - and with no destruction...obtaining two double 1-1 ratio against 400 AVs...)...well, what i've seen tells me that my hopes are vain...he could land tomorrow at Karachi with 8 divisions and probably i won't be able to throw him back. Sad and depressing.

Anyway, war goes on and untill there's life in this old body we'll fight. The Americans are on the move...slowly we're getting ready to exploit the constant absence of his major naval assets in the Pacific...it will take time however...as you know...

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 12:20:27 AM

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He won't land at Karachi - at least I don't think he will. The invasion bonus has expired and he'd get messed up pretty badly. He'll more likely land at a lightly-defended base and make this a combined air/land/sea campaign to isolate and then deal with Karachi and Bombay. So you're going to have time. It may be a miserable experience, but perhaps not. See how good you can do and you'll learn an incredible amount.

How is your supply situation at Bombay and Karachi. You have 1500 AV at Karachi and how much at Bombay? Do you have any top-notch units like the British? I still think you're better off fighting at Bombay if it comes down to a Roarke's Drift situation. Even the Chinese put up a good fight on good terrain, as do the Philippinos. Yes, the Indian units aren't great, but in a well-supplied Bombay they are going to give the enemy fits. Also, Bombay poses a threat to the flank of any army moving on Karachi. Your opponent has to keep an eye on both and have forces allocated to deal with threats.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 5:12:24 AM

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If you are prepped for Tarawa then go there unless recon shows large numbers of Japs there. Recon Ocean/ Naurua and take em if they're empty.

I would agree with this IF there is prep. The difference in landing losses between 50% and 100% is significant. I don't know what he has there, but the AI always loads Tarawa with Netties very early and a re-take without carriers is suicidal. I just waypoint around it until I'm ready to take it properly, but I've never been facing auto-vic against the AI either.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 5:18:11 AM

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He won't land at Karachi - at least I don't think he will. The invasion bonus has expired and he'd get messed up pretty badly. He'll more likely land at a lightly-defended base and make this a combined air/land/sea campaign to isolate and then deal with Karachi and Bombay. So you're going to have time. It may be a miserable experience, but perhaps not. See how good you can do and you'll learn an incredible amount.

I tend to agree. DG and Socotra is a sort of Karachi-by-proxy. Nothing is going to get in from CT, and if he'll leave the IJN north the Aden channel is pretty unsafe as well. I think he'll go for Surat and get Karachi overland.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 7:16:26 AM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 08,9 42

A quick update before going to work...

At Diego G. jap troops have been resting for the last 2 days, while we had the visit of the whole KB bombing squadrons which brought Havoc to the base. I'm pretty sure tomorrow we'll fall...but hey, we've gained 2 more days

Near Scoodra the RN pops up and clears the way for some reinforcements...another jap CL is sunk with no loss on my part. The cat&mouse game we're doing here is pretty funny...however as soon as the KB has finished with Diego i'm sure everything will be shut in this part of the world...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Socotra at 10,11, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
     no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Japanese Ships
     CL Kiso, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
     CA Exeter
     CL Hobart, Shell hits 1
     DD Decoy
     DD Express

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Afternoon Air attack on Diego Garcia , at 11,62

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M2 Zero x 10
     B5N1 Kate x 18
     B5N2 Kate x 98
     D3A1 Val x 98

Japanese aircraft losses
     B5N2 Kate: 14 damaged
     D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed, 27 damaged

Allied ground losses:
     196 casualties reported
        Squads: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
        Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
        Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
     Guns lost 20 (5 destroyed, 15 disabled)
     Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

To answer to some of your questions, the supply situation in Karachi is pretty good: 150k supplies (the only problem being i cannot force them to stay there...); at Bombay i have far less of them but i've also have less troops. i'm planning to leave some 500/750 AVs back there as soon as we retreat to our last redoubts.
Calcutta has been ordered to be evacuated. Japanese tanks are already flanking our positions and i cannot let them cut my RR towards Bombay/Karachi.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 8:19:09 AM

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Well, if he'd go for Karachi overland it means i'll have more time to build up my defences. He will need to take Scoodra first and with the RN who's showing his nails, he'll be forced to keep his main assets tied up there (this is exactly what the US fleet is looking for).

However again the japs have outplayed me. The Diego Garcia invasion force has already left the place...

so my RN heavy cruisers division is again going for nothing...risking a bad encounter with the KB...hopefully we can get in and out during the same night/day...

In less than 20 days my entire US pacific fleet will be upgraded and ready to move. We've been prepping for Tarawa for a long time now...i think we should try.
However the conditio sine-qua-non is that the KB remains in India. For that i'll have to use and risk my RN extensively...but it will be a fair price to pay for the sake of India and for our american pacific objectives...

I had not forgotten NOPAC. I'm already diverting ships and planes to this second operation.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 8:59:20 AM

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I have a question regarding the AF stacking limits.
At Karachi (AF 6) i have 127 planes in 11 groups. It tells me that only 10 groups are supported...while in another AF, level 4, with 270 planes it doesn't tell me anything like that...At Karachi i have 2 Air HQ and another air HQ is in range...what's the trick??

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 2:26:47 PM

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To answer to some of your questions, the supply situation in Karachi is pretty good: 150k supplies (the only problem being i cannot force them to stay there...);

Too bad you're not playing the latest beta. There, you could.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 2:42:35 PM

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Thanks Bullwinkle!...well, i'll live with that. will try to work around this...even if that will mean spoiling some supplies...

How much time do you think it will be needed for my CVs to move to CT from WC?..a month?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 3:09:45 PM

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Thanks Bullwinkle!...well, i'll live with that. will try to work around this...even if that will mean spoiling some supplies...

How much time do you think it will be needed for my CVs to move to CT from WC?..a month?

Through the Canal Zone?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 3:49:03 PM

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It's about three weeks from Canal Zone to Capetown.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 5:30:17 PM

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Thanks CR...so the american CVs could come in time to create some problems to the KB...gotta think about it

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 5:37:41 PM

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Ok, we're upgrading to the latest beta patch...is there something i should know? something that could change things in this game?
I can buy back destroyed units if i recall correctly...but where do they arrive?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 5:59:34 PM

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Don't forget to factor in the time from West Coast to Canal Zone and then from Capetown onto the map. You're looking at a good five to six weeks before they'd be ready for action.

If I was fighting for India's life, I'd want my carriers at hand.

Of course, your opponent will be expecting them there, so it will be tough to make good raids, but you may end up in a position where you absolutely have to make a desperation sortie.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 6:33:27 PM

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Ok, we're upgrading to the latest beta patch...is there something i should know? something that could change things in this game?
I can buy back destroyed units if i recall correctly...but where do they arrive?

Read all the release notes in the Tech forum. They aren't cumulative, so you need to read each patch's. I think in a few minor cases some things were changed and then changed back, or again to a third thing or process.

You get a lot of very important industry tools now. You can turn off Allied industry for example. You can stockpile supplies, fuel, resources, and oil at each base, preventing it from being passed down the line. You can stockpile devices in the pools, preventing them from being issued until you have enough to do an upgrade to a key unit. Lots of changes.

The re-built LCUs arrive at different places. I don't know if there's a master list. My dead PI units appear at SF. A lot or all of the British units at Aden. I rebuilt some Dutch units when I was playing around with this new feature, and I think they showed up in Oz, but I don't recall now. It's six or more weeks ago real time. However, this feature won't save you; it's a nice long-term feature. You pay PPs to reactivate (not many, but you need every one you have already), and the units arrive with only cadre. A couple of squads/devices. Months to re-build them for fighting, and they can suck down your pools doing it. In your case I wouldn't plan on leaning on this feature, especially for the British Army.

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 9:25:14 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 10,11 42

Tow more TREMENDOUS days for the allies...

Japan showed its mighty and nuked Diego with his BBs...my guys threw the towel and surrendered the next morning...lost 400 AVs for nothing...i've hoped, i've sincerly hoped in something better...

At the same time japan outplays me again in India...he bombed my bdes guarding the chokepoints...bombed like hell with 400 bombers...then he paradropped...and, in a splendid coordination, his tanks crossed the river right at the same time his paras were falling down from the sky...result? 3 Indian Bdes annihilated and pushed back and my whole front bypassed...with 80 units moving north of Calcutta...probably i'll lose more 1000 AVs here in the south...i think i'll never learn the lessons he gave me in CHina...i feel a little bit stupid...well, probably more than a little bit.
Depressed for sure.

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Night Naval bombardment of Diego Garcia at 11,62 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

56 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 1
CL Oi
CL Kitakami
CL Kashima
DD Yanagi
DD Shirakumo
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsushima
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsuharu
DD Suzukaze
DD Hagikaze
DD Tokitsukaze

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Afternoon Air attack on Diego Garcia , at 11,62

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
B5N1 Kate x 9
B5N2 Kate x 74

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Diego Garcia at 11,62 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
DD Katsutade
DD Tadeshiwa
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu

Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 26 (6 destroyed, 20 disabled)

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Ground combat at Diego Garcia (11,62)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20012 troops, 208 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 647

Defending force 8400 troops, 120 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 324

Japanese adjusted assault: 459

Allied adjusted defense: 57

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Diego Garcia !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
583 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10367 casualties reported Squads: 414 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 566 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 76 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 130 (130 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 93 (93 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4

Assaulting units:
20th Infantry Regiment
38th Division
9th Infantry Regiment
16th Engineer Regiment
10th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
44th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
DG RN Detachment
48th Light AA Regiment

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Ground combat at Patna (54,30) Where do they come from!?!?!?

...god, i didn't see them coming

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2680 troops, 8 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 131

Defending force 5686 troops, 70 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 218

Japanese adjusted assault: 64

Allied adjusted defense: 16

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Patna !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1507 casualties reported
Squads: 71 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 124 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 37 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 23 (22 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 35 (32 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
48th Recon Regiment
16th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
26th Indian/B Division
26th Indian/C Division

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Ground combat at Asansol (53,34)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 152 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Defending force 1175 troops, 29 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Asansol !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
482 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 100 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 18 (18 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /1

Defending units:
20th Indian/B Division

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 9:45:36 PM

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You got Op Mod (-) on the ground attacks. Why? If these guys were in defensive positions you'd decided to hold, why weren't they in Combat?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 10:18:30 PM

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It appears that you have your Forces in India split up in an attempt to defend everywhere, therefore you are being defeated everywhere. Brigades, particularly Indian Brigades, won't stop a truck load of Geishas, let alone crack Japanese troops.

Why did you put an Indian Division in Diego Garcia? We've all been telling you repeatedly that the Indian troops can't defend ANYTHING until they have been rested at 100% preparation for six months in non-malarial bases.

It looks as if the Japanese Armour at Patna did a river crossing; otherwise there is no way that you wouldn't have seen them sitting there.

Okay, here's some advice you won't like:

1 - Right now, immediately, without a second thought, send all of your forces in India towards Bombay and Karachi.

2 - Bring together all of your miserable, worthless Brigades and rebuild them into miserable, worthless Divisions. Those miserable, worthless Divisions will still be marginally better than when they are broken into bits.

3 - Do the exact same thing in Australia - DON'T try to defend piecemeal ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 - Pull your good US troops out of all of the lousy, little, totally undefendable atolls where you've squirrelled them and put them into BIG BASES in OZ, and maybe even Hawaii.

At the rate you are going your opponent will be able to take India with ease, then send his troops and take Oz, then send his troops and take most everything else on the MAP, because you are giving away your forces piecemeal.

BTW - why not post some screenshots so that we can see the entire Horror Story in Living Color?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 10:31:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

You got Op Mod (-) on the ground attacks. Why? If these guys were in defensive positions you'd decided to hold, why weren't they in Combat?

Because the were ready to RR back...all the front was moving back...i wanted to do it at the very last second in order to save every possible unit...and...i got outplayed

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 10:36:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ADB123

It appears that you have your Forces in India split up in an attempt to defend everywhere, therefore you are being defeated everywhere. Brigades, particularly Indian Brigades, won't stop a truck load of Geishas, let alone crack Japanese troops.

Why did you put an Indian Division in Diego Garcia? We've all been telling you repeatedly that the Indian troops can't defend ANYTHING until they have been rested at 100% preparation for six months in non-malarial bases.

It looks as if the Japanese Armour at Patna did a river crossing; otherwise there is no way that you wouldn't have seen them sitting there.

Okay, here's some advice you won't like:

1 - Right now, immediately, without a second thought, send all of your forces in India towards Bombay and Karachi.

2 - Bring together all of your miserable, worthless Brigades and rebuild them into miserable, worthless Divisions. Those miserable, worthless Divisions will still be marginally better than when they are broken into bits.

3 - Do the exact same thing in Australia - DON'T try to defend piecemeal ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 - Pull your good US troops out of all of the lousy, little, totally undefendable atolls where you've squirrelled them and put them into BIG BASES in OZ, and maybe even Hawaii.

At the rate you are going your opponent will be able to take India with ease, then send his troops and take Oz, then send his troops and take most everything else on the MAP, because you are giving away your forces piecemeal.

BTW - why not post some screenshots so that we can see the entire Horror Story in Living Color?

I put the Indian division there when everybody told me that Colombo could not be defended...so i evacuated it and sent everything i could to Diego, hoping i could surprise him...

I wasn't trying to defend everything. i was defending my retreat path, so to say the railroad junction...keeping my forces on Strat Mod in order to leave the place in order and fast...obviously it didn't work.

India isn't over yet. I'll fight till the very last man and i have prepared positions near Karachi. And, this time, i won't panic

Screen shots soon...

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 10:43:20 PM

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I've taken a look at what were the situation yesterday...ok...i gotta say i'm puzzled...why in the world the tanks south of Ponah weren't seen!?!?!?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 10:44:25 PM

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...and he's reconning every single base...every dot base in my inland...how am i supposed not to guard those places?

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RE: The door of India is open - 5/2/2011 10:56:31 PM

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I had the same thing happen in my game with Q-Ball - paratroops and armor caught, isolated and destroyed quite a few units. I managed to extract a good bit, though.

You're going to experience the "bad morale leads to a feeling of hopelessness leads to bad decisions which reinforce the hopelessness" scenario if you are a normal human being and relatively new to AE.

What you need to do is have a cleansing ceremony. Pretend like the old GreyJoy that got you into this mess has been removed from command. A new GreyJoy has assumed command. He knows he's in trouble but he'x excited by the challenge of making the best of it.

Your in a fix, but you need to look at this fresh in order to configure your best defense.

One other thing - you will never be pushed this badly again. You're learning alot and you will benefit immensely. So soldier on!

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