Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

Hi Michael,

I don't have a save game or screen shot to show you this. It's something I've seen from day 1 of WITP AE and have just thought to post about it.

In the combat animation replays that I watch, every so often, I see a hit on a location called "Turret". This location can happen in air to surface fights (CV planes vs ships), or in surface to surface fights (including when a sub is forced to surface).

Every single time I have seen "Turret hit", there is no damage associated with it. There are no devices called "Turret". This is true even if a CA is firing on a SS and hit's the SS's turret. No damage. If the CA hit's a specific device (like 4"/50 mk 10 gun), then there is damage, to the sub, and to the device.

I have a feeling that there is a "turret" location left over from WITP, or even UV when devices were not modeled specifically, or were not possible hit locations. It's pretty rare to see the message. I think it's a 1%-4% possible hit chance. It happens so infrequently that I think most people miss it, or chalk it up to luck.

Maybe other folks can comment on my post and see if this might be a bug worth looking into, or if it's not an issue.

Thanks for all your hard work. I'm really looking forward to the next official patch.

bc

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ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

Hi Michael,

I am wondering if it is working correctly. A lot of the examples are going to be large ships with armored devices (16" guns, 8" guns, etc).

But, I have seen a lot of examples that seem very weird. Several times I've seen DD main guns (~5") hit submarines after they have surfaced hit the target location of "Turret Hit". Subs don't have armored devices. Nothing on them should stop a 5" round from penetrating, at least not the majority of hits. I've seen this on small ships being hit by large caliber guns. Most DD's, PC's and SC's don't have armored devices of any kind. Yet, "Turret Hit" results in no destroyed device or damage (It's hard to see this because ships generally get hit a lot and you can't separate out the non-penetrating hits from the penetrating hits.)

Now, when I see messages like "Belt Hit" or "Deck Hit", it implies that you struck the target, but cause only insignificant damage (0-1). "Turret Hit" would imply that it is non penetrating, as you have said above. But, I have never seen "Turret Penetrated" to imply damage. I always see a specific device hit, never a general "Turret". I'll see "20mm Oerkilon" hit. Or "16inch/50cal" hit. Or 22" Torpedo tube" hit. etc.

I really think that "turret hit" is a redundant feature from the past and that very specific device wording has replaced it. Because there are no "Turrets" on ships and there are "specific device names" on ships, it's causing no damage when hit.

Anyway, I think the surface combat routines are working extremely well. When I see "Turret Hit", I chalk it up to luck. The outcome is generally not decided by one hit.

Please keep up the great work. I read the tech forum as much as any other forum now. You're working almost faster than I can read.

bc