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Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/3/2011 2:14:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		A new mod project I'm thinking of pursuing. The mod will stress three qualities:

1. Simplicity: I want to make the game more managable, reducing the number of clicks a player would need to perform in order to accomplish some tasks.

2. Balance: This mod will feature Japanese and Allies in relative parity with each other in terms of strength. Thus when the game starts both sides will be equally likely to be on either offense or defense.

3. Fantasy: Yes, the dreaded "f" word. This is going to be a purely fantasy mod. Basically the only things that will remain true to history will be the devices, aircraft and most of the ship classes in the database. After that all hell is going to break loose with the OOBs and TO&Es. (My apologies to all the historical purists out there for this blasphemy. All I can say is if you don't like fantasy, don't play it.)



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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/3/2011 9:22:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		To reduce number of clicks, you should make few, but really big, land, and air units. So, like whole Corps, or even Armies.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/3/2011 10:00:48 PM   
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To reduce number of clicks, you should make few, but really big, land, and air units. So, like whole Corps, or even Armies.


I plan on making LCUs division level as much as possible. China will probably be Corps level. Another thing I am considering is playing around with HQs, creating a training command or something for each side. Then you merely need to assign any training units to training command and use the "select all units with this hq" to mass assign all units in training command to do whatever you want. Political Points will be plentiful for switching commands. Leaders will not have as much variation in their stats so I plan on making it less practical to have to switch out leaders all the time.



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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 3:03:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Question for the experts:

I want to give the Japanese some CVs in place of the Yamatos. What would be a plausible substitute carrier-wise for the Yamatos, to be launched before January 1941. Also, I'd like to use a carrier design which would allow me to create 2 carriers per each Yamato. In other words, in the span it took to produce a Yamato, I'd like to pump out two CVs.

Any ideas, suggestions on what would be the likely candidate, another Soryu, Hiryu, Shokaku, Junyo, or Unryu? What carrier design should I use? I'd like to keep it to an existing design used in the game, instead of a "never-was".

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 5:16:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm no "expert", but I would offer this up for consideration:

Yamato = Two additional Shokakus to start. Or one additional Shokaku and the Junyos are availble at "start".

Musashi = Taiho and Unryus begin to arrive 8-12 months earlier than their historical arrival dates.

Shinano = One additional Taiho or "Improved" Taiho (actually designed but never started); Arriving Spring '44 or "historical" Taiho arrival date (July '44).

Kii ?? (Warship Number 111): Keel was laid down in August 1940 and work continued until December 1941; broken up in '42 (30% complete). One addition Taiho or Improved Taiho arriving Fall '44 (Oct ?? or near "historical" Shinano arrival date).

And of course add the extra Air Groups and may "bump" the A/C production numbers to reflect the needed additional replacement capacity due to the extra carriers and air groups. But just a bit so as not make it too A-historical.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 9:27:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, that's a lofty plan for a mod... I'd like to see what it ends with.

About carriers: build only Shokaku-class derivatives. Taiho sacrifices much of handar capacity for dubious increases in survivability. It's hard to tell whether Unryus could have been worth it, if avaiable earlier, but they seem to be too small and vulnerable.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 3:16:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		FatR makes some very good points. How about this? Make the Shokakus (or a "Improved Shokaku") the "Essex" for the IJN. Production is "standardized" and helps speed launching:

Yamato = Two additional Shokakus to start.

Junyo & Hiyo = One additional Shokaku to start. The same thing FatR said about the Taiho and Unryus could be applied to these two vessels. Convert them to AVs instead of CVs. Cheaper? Faster conversion? Better use for these hulls?

Musashi = Two additional Shokakus arrive late '42 (Oct-Dec).

Shinano = Two additional Shokakus or "Improved" Shokakus (maybe slightly bigger [ie "Long Hull"], larger air groups, more AA, better damage control, better layout of space and compartments, etc.; all I believe plausible within the context of this thread and not too much of a stretch). One arrives Spring '43 and the second Summer '43.

Kii ?? (Warship Number 111): Two additional Improved Shokakus arriving Winter '44 (Jan-Mar).

Taiho: One additional Improved Shokaku arriving Spring '44.

6 Unryus and 1 Ibuki: Four Improved Shokakus arriving between Spring '44 and Spring '45.

I believe that the above would keep things within "historical" context. Even the Improved Taihos could be classified as "Never Weres". I very much like the Iron Storm appoarch and have moded scenarios for it and is pure Alt History. This "Shokaku" option at best could be called "Different History" and is more plausible.

To repeat: Add the extra Air Groups and maybe "bump" the A/C production numbers to reflect the needed additional replacement capacity due to the extra carriers and air groups. But just a bit so as not make it too A-historical.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 4:01:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		The new "At Start" Shokakus would be:
Yamato
Musashi
Shinano

The two lat '42 Shokakus would be:
Kii
Ibuki

The five additional Shokakus would be Improved Shokakus (using the Kairyu Sides and Shils) and with an Air Group of 84 or 96 (this would depend on which air group rating you give the original Shokakus [some say it is the game indicated 72, while others claim it should be 84]; I'm part of the 84 crowd); the whold issue of aircraft size and folding vs non-folding wings, crated spares, etc.:
Taiho
Unryu
Amagi
Katsuragi
Kasagi

Any way you go, this gives the IJN three additional "At Start" Shokakus and additional seven Standard and Improved Shokakus. While not equal in numbers or capabilities to the Essex Class; five Shokakus will arrive before the first Essex. These will be followed by two additional Shokakus in '43 (or more depending on "your" scenario design dates of arrival, the five additional Shokakus will make '42-'43 very interesting for the Allies; can you say Indian Ocean Adventure, Coral Sea, Midway, Guadalcanal, Eastern Solomans, Santa Cruz? The War could easily drag on into '46 or even '47 now.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 5:00:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not sure, adding MORE CVs (and air-groups) will reduce number of clicks

Anyway, it will be probably best to just turn-off Japan production, which will release from another burden. And maybe even increase experience of reserve pilots, to decrease training on-map.

Now, thinking of it, it will be also better to get rid half of transport ships. Maybe even add huge stockpiles of supply into front, to decrease transporting time.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 5:25:00 PM   
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I am not sure, adding MORE CVs (and air-groups) will reduce number of clicks

Anyway, it will be probably best to just turn-off Japan production, which will release from another burden. And maybe even increase experience of reserve pilots, to decrease training on-map.

Now, thinking of it, it will be also better to get rid half of transport ships. Maybe even add huge stockpiles of supply into front, to decrease transporting time.


Well...I'm hoping not to add new airgroups. Basically I'm planning on converting land based Naval aircraft into carrier airgroups.

Here's is my plan so far:

I'm going to preserve the number of aircraft of each type and the number of squads of each type for LCUs. However, I plan on reorganizing them into larger units. This will involve renaming a LOT of units. I'll probably use generic names like 1st Sentai, 2nd Sentai, etc. A Sentai will be 54 a/c, which can be divided at the players discrestion into 3 groups of 18 planes each. I plan on largely doing aways with groups of less than 18 planes with maybe a few exceptions.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 6:01:00 PM   
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Question for the experts:

I want to give the Japanese some CVs in place of the Yamatos. What would be a plausible substitute carrier-wise for the Yamatos, to be launched before January 1941. Also, I'd like to use a carrier design which would allow me to create 2 carriers per each Yamato. In other words, in the span it took to produce a Yamato, I'd like to pump out two CVs.

Any ideas, suggestions on what would be the likely candidate, another Soryu, Hiryu, Shokaku, Junyo, or Unryu? What carrier design should I use? I'd like to keep it to an existing design used in the game, instead of a "never-was".

Thanks.

Gary, my friend, I think you are worrying too much. If this is a balanced scenario, who cares what's plausible. Just go for it. If I was doing one of those, I would have alternating 'Kakus and Unryus arriving on the same dates as an Essex. The whole idea is balance, yeah? And sure, do the Yamato, Musashi, Shinano BBs to counter the NCs, SoDaks, and Iowas. Nobody is gonna scar you for doing that, so long as you say just what it is you are doing.

Frankly, that might be a fun thing. I strongly believe in limited, historically based, CPX-type scenarios that offer relative balance of forces. Have no idea how this would play out in a campaign game, but can imagine something like the old Tactics-II. Making a historically plausible what-if scenario is one thing. Making a 'balanced' scenario is something else entirely.

So throw historicity out the window. It's not Allies v Japan, it's green/brown v red. In that context, you can do what you darn please without worrying about what someone will say.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/5/2011 7:04:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I should note, that I also think Japanese production should be turned off for such a scenario, particularly if you want a simplification. Too many ways to manipulate it for the player's advantage. In stock gaming the economy is pretty much expected from a player who intends to hold into 1945... in such scenario it will give Japanese a big advantage.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/6/2011 4:44:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm tring to figure a way of incorporated the German and Italians into the mod. Basically they will share two bases, Mogadishu and Socotra. The story line will be that the Germans and Italians defeat the European Allies before the US can join the war. However, the British, Free French and Dutch will still have their possessions in the Pacific. I think I'm going to give the French back French Indochina and put some high end French warships in the mod. The British will still control India and Burma and of course the Australians and New Zealanders will be there.

As far as OOBs, there won't be much of anything resembling anything historical. This is going to be one totally whacked out fantasy universe!



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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/6/2011 6:34:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with Japanese production being turned off. However, I still want the Japanese to have some reason to go for the DEI. Maybe I'll just keep Japanese industry only so far as it is needed to convert oil and resources into fuel and supply points. Other than that, a/c production, engines and armament factories will not exist. Basically the name of the game will be to cart oil and rersources back to Japan to convert into what they need for supplies, etc. The Germans and Italians will be getting their supplies arriving from Europe and maybe the near east via Mogadishu which will be in game but heavily garrisoned.

Ship and LCU art won't be a problem for me, however, plane sides are going to be a b**ch. I need some lessons from Cathartes on how he does his plane sides so mine will blend in the game with his.

Start date for the mod will be 1/1/1942.

I'll need to run some tests to see if I can split IJN and IJA nationalities between Japan and the European Axis so that the Germans and Italians aren't pulling from the same pilot pool as Japan.

I think JWE is right and this may turn out to be fun. A lot of new toys to play with, however, I still plan on reducing the overall click factor of the game so players aren't overwhelmed.



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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/13/2011 2:30:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Got some new ship art for my mod:

Italian CV Aquila
German CV Graf Zeppelin
German CVL Seydlitz
French CV Joffre
British CV "Adjective" Class (basically an hypothetical earlier version of Ark Royal. I used Big B's Ark Royal as the base model)




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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/14/2011 10:11:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fi 167 of fictional "Graf Zeppelin" regiment. Group 3(3rd as in torpedo?), squadron 2, plane 5, GZ-EK.

Dont lynch me.

EDIT: logic with the camouflage is that the carrier aircraft would have probably received standard camouflage, with the darker RLM colors for naval ops. The white wing tips, fuselage band and engine cowling are Mediterranean/African theater bands for FFI.

EDIT2: possible stats? New king of crapplanes.

EDIT3: the propeller blades lengthened...

EDIT4: I do have one with the swastika as well.





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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/14/2011 10:24:10 PM   
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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/14/2011 11:54:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks great! As far as the crappy stats go, they'll be mostly up against British stringbags to start out with so it won't matter much.



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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/16/2011 12:36:29 AM   
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I'm thinking something along the lines of the RAF gets thrashed in the BoB instead of the historical outcome because the Luftwaffe concentrates on airfields and industry instead of cities. Although the Germans don't invade England, because of the hit on British industry, Rommel goes wild in the desert and runs all the way through to Baghdad, taking the Suez Canal. Malta and Gilbraltar fall and the Mediterranean becomes an Axis swimming pool. Moscow falls in 41. Soviets are still fighting but morale is low.

It's January 1st 1942 and the only thing standing in the way of Japan and all the resources it needs is the US and its Arsenal of Democracy. Britain is hopelessly hanging on by its fingernails in Europe.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/16/2011 2:28:55 AM   
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1922, the Washington Treaty falls apart. warship production goes unchecked and all the major nations engage in an arms race which successfully curbs the Great Depression. Mussolini and Hitler rise to power in Europe and begin a massive buildup. PM Chamberlain manages to look the other way while Hitler builds up Germany.

World War II starts with the invasion of Poland. Hitler goes on to blitzkrieg his way through France to the coast of the English Channel. The Luftwaffe begins the Battle of Britain, only in this case the Germans are a bit smarter about things and concentrate first on destroying the RAF and then go after British industry. Sea Lion is still a failure and Britain holds out, however, only by its fingernails.

Meanwhile, Hitler preasure's Franco into joining the Axis and a combined German/Spanish invasion of Gibraltar. Allied supplies to the Med are cut off. With the Luftwaffe giving British industry hell and supplies being cut off at Gibraltar, Rommel successfully takes Egypt, the Suez Canal and pushes into the Middle East securing oil fields as he goes. The Regia Marina assumes control of the Med. Meanwhile Moscow falls in 41 and the Soviets are hard pressed to push the Germans back. With all these successes, Hitler and Mussolini turn their eyes on the Pacific and linking up with their Japanese Allies.


How does it sound so far?

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/16/2011 2:48:04 PM   
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I agree with Japanese production being turned off. However, I still want the Japanese to have some reason to go for the DEI. Maybe I'll just keep Japanese industry only so far as it is needed to convert oil and resources into fuel and supply points. Other than that, a/c production, engines and armament factories will not exist. Basically the name of the game will be to cart oil and resources back to Japan to convert into what they need for supplies, etc. The Germans and Italians will be getting their supplies arriving from Europe and maybe the near east via Mogadishu which will be in game but heavily garrisoned.

So you are going to have use "build rate" to predefine the numbers of engines, a/c etc That's going to be a bit of work. Can I suggest slimming the number of plane types available ... AE can be an aspergers plane paradise. I'd also suggest a better conversion/upgrade path but that will make the "build rate" definition more complicated.
As for using half the production functions and not the other I think you'll have to be creative in how you tackle that problem as it isn't an easy solution with figuring what will be needed.
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I'll need to run some tests to see if I can split IJN and IJA nationalities between Japan and the European Axis so that the Germans and Italians aren't pulling from the same pilot pool as Japan.

Not sure this is possible.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/16/2011 7:07:37 PM   
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I'll need to run some tests to see if I can split IJN and IJA nationalities between Japan and the European Axis so that the Germans and Italians aren't pulling from the same pilot pool as Japan.

Not sure this is possible.
Good luck

Not practicably possible. If you do that, army and navy pilots become fungible. All army and navy leaders become fungible. Majors commanding warships? Admirals commanding Divisions? Yamashita or Homma commanding Combined Fleet?

Hopefully your Nazi extras will just be ships and a few pilots. Obviously this won't be AI friendly, but even running one computer turn in a PBEM or H2H game will screw things up royally.

Suggest you do as Cid proposes and identify your Nazi stuff in data. People who play your mod can look for the KM designator and pick leaders appropriately. Why screw up 99% of the game just to have some pilots and ship commanders with German surnames?

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/16/2011 7:21:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Erkki

Fi 167 of fictional "Graf Zeppelin" regiment. Group 3(3rd as in torpedo?), squadron 2, plane 5, GZ-EK.

As a curiosity:
Different planes have torpedoes in different locations. Japanese Patrol Boats have them as "external", BETTYs, as "internal", and NELLs as "Center-line". I wonder if that changes accuracy somehow...

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Working on a storyline for my scenario.

I'm thinking something along the lines of the RAF gets thrashed in the BoB instead of the historical outcome because the Luftwaffe concentrates on airfields and industry instead of cities.

You complicate things too much. Beaten UK means less their assets on-map. The simplest solution would be LACK of attack on USSR. That way Germany could focus more on air/naval production, and defeating UK in Africa, plus preparing "right hook" for future attack against USSR.
I think USSR entry date is hard-coded, but you can actually begin scenario in early 1945. Editor have enough slots, to enter pilot numbers up to 1948. That way, we can pretend, that it is actually 1942, but USSR will enter war, after 6, or more months, not after 4 years. With LOTS of units, ships, and planes. And then, some of AXIS units will have to withdraw to Europe (well, actually keeping an eye on withdrawing is PITA, so should be eliminated to reduce clicking).

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/17/2011 12:03:11 AM   
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I'll need to run some tests to see if I can split IJN and IJA nationalities between Japan and the European Axis so that the Germans and Italians aren't pulling from the same pilot pool as Japan.

Not sure this is possible.
Good luck

Not practicably possible. If you do that, army and navy pilots become fungible. All army and navy leaders become fungible. Majors commanding warships? Admirals commanding Divisions? Yamashita or Homma commanding Combined Fleet?

Hopefully your Nazi extras will just be ships and a few pilots. Obviously this won't be AI friendly, but even running one computer turn in a PBEM or H2H game will screw things up royally.

Suggest you do as Cid proposes and identify your Nazi stuff in data. People who play your mod can look for the KM designator and pick leaders appropriately. Why screw up 99% of the game just to have some pilots and ship commanders with German surnames?


Thanks for the feedback.

Hadn't thought of that. That's why I was asking for feedback on how practical it would be to split IJA & IJN between Japanese and Germans. I was wondering if there would be any negative ramifications to it. Looks like there would be.

One workaround I can think of to the problem of getting the right leader names in the right units is to zero out political points so that leaders cannot be changed by the player and basically assign leaders permanently to units from the get go. Of course this also means that HQs cannot be changed for units. One way I could get around problems with that is to simply do away for the most part with static HQs and make all my game HQs movable to wherever the player wants to send them. That would also serve to simplify the game a bit, take away the need to change around leaders and HQs.

Can anyone think of any drawbacks to zeroing out political points?

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/17/2011 12:11:51 AM   
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I agree with Japanese production being turned off. However, I still want the Japanese to have some reason to go for the DEI. Maybe I'll just keep Japanese industry only so far as it is needed to convert oil and resources into fuel and supply points. Other than that, a/c production, engines and armament factories will not exist. Basically the name of the game will be to cart oil and resources back to Japan to convert into what they need for supplies, etc. The Germans and Italians will be getting their supplies arriving from Europe and maybe the near east via Mogadishu which will be in game but heavily garrisoned.

So you are going to have use "build rate" to predefine the numbers of engines, a/c etc That's going to be a bit of work. Can I suggest slimming the number of plane types available ... AE can be an aspergers plane paradise. I'd also suggest a better conversion/upgrade path but that will make the "build rate" definition more complicated.
As for using half the production functions and not the other I think you'll have to be creative in how you tackle that problem as it isn't an easy solution with figuring what will be needed.


Actually I'm thinking twice about turning off IJ production. If I can simplify other areas of the game enough I would maybe leave production alone. Production is too much fun to mess around with. Leaders and HQs OTOH, to me, are a pain in the rear to micromanage.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/17/2011 12:38:01 AM   
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Working on a storyline for my scenario.

I'm thinking something along the lines of the RAF gets thrashed in the BoB instead of the historical outcome because the Luftwaffe concentrates on airfields and industry instead of cities.

You complicate things too much. Beaten UK means less their assets on-map. The simplest solution would be LACK of attack on USSR. That way Germany could focus more on air/naval production, and defeating UK in Africa, plus preparing "right hook" for future attack against USSR.
I think USSR entry date is hard-coded, but you can actually begin scenario in early 1945. Editor have enough slots, to enter pilot numbers up to 1948. That way, we can pretend, that it is actually 1942, but USSR will enter war, after 6, or more months, not after 4 years. With LOTS of units, ships, and planes. And then, some of AXIS units will have to withdraw to Europe (well, actually keeping an eye on withdrawing is PITA, so should be eliminated to reduce clicking).


There's a "yes/no" switch for activating the Soviets in the "Scenario" tab. Not sure if it works or not.

You're overlooking other possibilities. Lack of an Eastern front would mean more German assets to make England's life miserable. That in itself would guarantee that Britain would have to focus primarily on home defense, locking up most of their units there. With the Soviets fighting the Germans the UK can hope to be ignored a bit and can still try to protect her far flung empire, occasionally attacking the Germans here and there. Otherwise the Germans would be able to concentrate their power on Britain alone. That wouldn't be a good thing either.

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/17/2011 4:17:39 AM   
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Working on a storyline for my scenario.

I'm thinking something along the lines of the RAF gets thrashed in the BoB instead of the historical outcome because the Luftwaffe concentrates on airfields and industry instead of cities.

You complicate things too much. Beaten UK means less their assets on-map. The simplest solution would be LACK of attack on USSR. That way Germany could focus more on air/naval production, and defeating UK in Africa, plus preparing "right hook" for future attack against USSR.
I think USSR entry date is hard-coded, but you can actually begin scenario in early 1945. Editor have enough slots, to enter pilot numbers up to 1948. That way, we can pretend, that it is actually 1942, but USSR will enter war, after 6, or more months, not after 4 years. With LOTS of units, ships, and planes. And then, some of AXIS units will have to withdraw to Europe (well, actually keeping an eye on withdrawing is PITA, so should be eliminated to reduce clicking).


There's a "yes/no" switch for activating the Soviets in the "Scenario" tab. Not sure if it works or not.


It is problem going back to witp - and wasn't fixed for AE iirc. If set as active then it doesn't activate from the scenario start. You'll need a HR for the Japanese to attack to make it active

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/17/2011 2:28:34 PM   
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I'm tring to figure a way of incorporated the German and Italians into the mod.


An alternative approach would be to knock the Russians out of the war -- Germany invades, Russia collapses and fragments into warlord statelets, perhaps with a Japanese-dominated Far Eastern Republic, allowing the Germans access to Pacific Russia along the Trans-Siberian railway. It allows the deployment of a Panzer Armee Afrika equivalent, but at the end of a very tenuous supply line -- I'd restrict German units to German HQs and keep those very limited in number, while making European Russia a supply source but forcing the Axis to garrison the Trans-Siberia line. This idea is more problematic for extensive naval deployments, but would allow the Monsun Gruppe U-Boats and Raiders to be put on a firmer footing.

Simultaneously the collapse of Russia allows you to restrict the rate at which Allied commitment to the Pacific grows as the threat in Europe will be greater. It also creates the potential of a thrust at India from the West through the Caucusus and Persia (I'm not sure even Hitler was stupid enough to try coming south through Afghanistan).

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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/17/2011 3:55:17 PM   
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RE: Simple Balancer Fantasy (SBF) Mod - 5/18/2011 2:19:09 AM   
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Bf 109 E-7/B, "White 3" of I/JG.26.







Beautifully done! Keep them coming Erkki!

One thing, the tops are a little large compared to the ones in game. Any chance you would shrink them just a little to match the scale in game? I wish the ones in game were as large as yours as they are more beautiful at that size.

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