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Which Game??? - 5/13/2011 12:30:28 PM   
innerlander


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Status: offline 		Hi,just a novice - have a few of the Matrix Games, but am now stuck.
I want a company/battalion level WW2 game, with an Editor to experiment with.
Either "Battlefront" or "The Operational Art of War III".
Could anyone advise me which to purchase, please?
Open to any help.
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RE: Which Game??? - 5/13/2011 12:40:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: innerlander
Hi,just a novice - have a few of the Matrix Games, but am now stuck.
I want a company/battalion level WW2 game, with an Editor to experiment with.
Either "Battlefront" or "The Operational Art of War III".
Could anyone advise me which to purchase, please?
Open to any help.


There's a demo for TOAW3 so you can have a free look at it - also, given the eleventy zillion scenarios and mods for TOAW 3 which provide plenty of starting points and examples I'd look at that game first

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/13/2011 3:41:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sterckxe

quote:

ORIGINAL: innerlander
Hi,just a novice - have a few of the Matrix Games, but am now stuck.
I want a company/battalion level WW2 game, with an Editor to experiment with.
Either "Battlefront" or "The Operational Art of War III".
Could anyone advise me which to purchase, please?
Open to any help.


There's a demo for TOAW3 so you can have a free look at it - also, given the eleventy zillion scenarios and mods for TOAW 3 which provide plenty of starting points and examples I'd look at that game first

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx



I curently list 461 scenarios for TOAW III, a tad less than eleventy zillion scenarios but still enough to keep you going.

Best wishes,
Steve

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/13/2011 6:58:51 PM   
Hertston


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Status: offline 		Neither. Get Combat Command.

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 12:54:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		There's also Battles from the Bulge which has a pretty nice command & control system. It has a downloadable demo and the full version has editors.

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 1:12:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I'd second downloading the demo for BfTB and trying it out. The editors free it from any tight dependency on the Bulge/Western Europe  '44/45 theatre as well, if that isn't your bag.

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 6:47:43 AM   
innerlander


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Status: offline 		Hi again,
Thanks for the helpful advice, especially demos.
Will get TOAW3, and Combat Command (or Panzer Command Ostfront?) this week.
Again, thanks for the help.

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 8:24:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: innerlander

Hi again,
Thanks for the helpful advice, especially demos.
Will get TOAW3, and Combat Command (or Panzer Command Ostfront?) this week.
Again, thanks for the help.


I'd try the Demo for Panzer Command Ostfront and see what you think.

Thanks
rick

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 3:30:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hertston

Neither. Get Combat Command.


Hetston,

Great Choice

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 7:08:52 PM   
ilovestrategy


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This is very important that which game do you want to watch and play. It is depend upon your personnel interest and lots of dedication about that game. I have some important game like matrx,Table tennis,foot ball.You have to select on of it .


See? This is a helpful community where even the spambots give advice!

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 7:17:26 PM   
pvthudson01


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so everyone recommends Combat Command which has little to no novice player help at all. good call fellas!

/sarcasm off



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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 7:22:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually I found it easy to get started and play a battle. Figuring out why things happen the way they do is more difficult.

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 8:21:34 PM   
sabre1


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Status: offline 		It took me 10 minutes to play through the tutorial and was up and running playing the game. Did I understand everything? Nope, but I was playing and getting it as I went. And, I felt comfortable enough with the game to start a PBEM, and I'm having fun doing that.


Try that with TOAW, WITE, WITP AE, ATD2, ATG, BFTB, and the beat goes on.

For a fun quick boardgame feel with JMASS mods already out and a bunch of scenarios it's one of the best "simple, fun, doesn't take an hour to make a turn" games to come out in a LONG time.

No I'm not ranting, and I'm not picking on anyone either. lol


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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 10:26:58 PM   
Lützow


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Status: offline 		TOAW 3 > Combat Command.

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 11:20:19 PM   
Hertston


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ORIGINAL: pvthudson01

"just a novice"

so everyone recommends Combat Command which has little to no novice player help at all. good call fellas!

/sarcasm off


I thought the tutorial was reasonable enough? I certainly think a novice would be more confident with CC after an evening's play than TOAW3 or even Battlefront. I've nothing against TOAW3 but, in all honesty, I'd recommend WitE to a newb ahead of it! It's OK for the old timers, but I really wonder how many new TOAW players even get past the tutorials? Or even the first one?

I actually recommended CC ahead of the others particularly because of the OP's comment about an editor he could mess about with and presumabkly comne up with something half-decent fairly quickly. CC is ideal for that.






< Message edited by Hertston -- 5/15/2011 11:21:31 PM >

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RE: Which Game??? - 5/15/2011 11:49:40 PM   
sabre1


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Status: offline 		No one, and I mean me, is arguing that TOAW 3 < CC.

But I could..., uhhhh, that was a typo above, really, just a typo.



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