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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/23/2011 6:29:23 PM   
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A stuka would be bad.....a Condor? I'd imagine that would be fatal to a Leander class CL.


Seem to recall that the Ulysses was supposed to be a modified Dido.



OK, my bad. Sorry. Now a Dido being hit by a Condor, that's no big thing now. (Insert wiseass and sarcastic smiley here).

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/23/2011 6:47:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is Russian book - "Реквием каравану PQ-17" ( Requiem for Convoy PQ 17) by Valentin Pikul on this same subject, that is considered companion to this book, which is available in English, and I know of at least 2 Soviet films on the subject. I think there is a post Soviet Times Russian film as well, but have not seen it. I'm sure if one looked hard enough they could find the films with English subtitles. As far as I remember they tell the story of the dramatic events and tragedy quite compellingly.

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/24/2011 12:17:54 AM   
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HMS Ulysses had a role to play in me being born.

My mother is a bit of an Arts snob.  She would always quiz dates about what they were reading, so when it got to my father and his reply was 'Ulysses' she was impressed.  She had struggled with Joyce's Ulysses, so anyone who read it in a couple of weeks was worth a second date (in her opinion).  By the time she got to investigating a bit deeper ('but I thought you'd read Ulysses?' - 'Yes.....HMS Ulysses') it was already too late.  And she was lumbered with my father who was indded the philistine that he had first appeared.


great story!

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/24/2011 5:14:07 AM   
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HMS Ulysses had a role to play in me being born.

My mother is a bit of an Arts snob.  She would always quiz dates about what they were reading, so when it got to my father and his reply was 'Ulysses' she was impressed.  She had struggled with Joyce's Ulysses, so anyone who read it in a couple of weeks was worth a second date (in her opinion).  By the time she got to investigating a bit deeper ('but I thought you'd read Ulysses?' - 'Yes.....HMS Ulysses') it was already too late.  And she was lumbered with my father who was indded the philistine that he had first appeared.


Outstanding! I've read most of Alistair McLean's works and while HMS Ulysses may not have been his most polished, it is still my all-time favorite. I especially enjoyed the 'bit players'; the escort carrier Captain, after his flight deck had been torn off its mornings and bent back by a freak wave, who cheerfully signals that the deck would make a great sail in a favorable wind and he thought it was a big improvement over the boring, flat flight decks, and didn't the Admiral agree?

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/24/2011 9:19:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		You should check out some of the writings by Douglas Reeman. He's written several books about the RN in set various time periods and in various theaters of operations from the North Atlantic to the Med to SEA. He wrote two (sorry can't remember the names right now) that cover the opening days of the war in the Pacific. One is centered on a group of former Yangtze River gunboats operating out of Singapore and the other is about an old WWI "S" class DD operating out of Hong Kong.

Reeman is a former RN officer and WW 2 vet (served with the Coastal Forces) I've always found his books very enjoyable and entertaining reading.




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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/24/2011 10:08:36 AM   
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You should check out some of the writings by Douglas Reeman. He's written several books about the RN in set various time periods and in various theaters of operations from the North Atlantic to the Med to SEA. He wrote two (sorry can't remember the names right now) that cover the opening days of the war in the Pacific. One is centered on a group of former Yangtze River gunboats operating out of Singapore and the other is about an old WWI "S" class DD operating out of Hong Kong.

Reeman is a former RN officer and WW 2 vet (served with the Coastal Forces) I've always found his books very enjoyable and entertaining reading.




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Sounds interesting afspret. Are these fact or fiction? If the former, is HMS Li Wo the subject of one of these?

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/24/2011 12:40:29 PM   
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You should check out some of the writings by Douglas Reeman. He's written several books about the RN in set various time periods and in various theaters of operations from the North Atlantic to the Med to SEA. He wrote two (sorry can't remember the names right now) that cover the opening days of the war in the Pacific. One is centered on a group of former Yangtze River gunboats operating out of Singapore and the other is about an old WWI "S" class DD operating out of Hong Kong.

Reeman is a former RN officer and WW 2 vet (served with the Coastal Forces) I've always found his books very enjoyable and entertaining reading.


Warspite1

Sounds interesting afspret. Are these fact or fiction? If the former, is HMS Li Wo the subject of one of these?


They're fiction


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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/24/2011 2:16:02 PM   
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You should check out some of the writings by Douglas Reeman. He's written several books about the RN in set various time periods and in various theaters of operations from the North Atlantic to the Med to SEA. He wrote two (sorry can't remember the names right now) that cover the opening days of the war in the Pacific. One is centered on a group of former Yangtze River gunboats operating out of Singapore and the other is about an old WWI "S" class DD operating out of Hong Kong.

Reeman is a former RN officer and WW 2 vet (served with the Coastal Forces) I've always found his books very enjoyable and entertaining reading.


Warspite1

Sounds interesting afspret. Are these fact or fiction? If the former, is HMS Li Wo the subject of one of these?


They're fiction

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Okay, thanks for letting me know.

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/25/2011 8:09:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Reeman also wrote a series of books set in the era of sail.  Under the name Alexander Kent.  Great books.  I started reading them when I was 15 which was......a long time ago.  I never read anyof his books set in WWII. 

I've read a lot of Alistair Maclean, but I never read Ulysses. 

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/25/2011 8:20:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		MacLean was a prolific authors.  About ten of his books are as good as any I've ever read; another ten are mediocre, and then there are a few that are bad.  Very bad.

HMS Ulysses was his first full-length novel, and in my opinion his finest book.  Some of his other excellent writings:  Where Eagles Dare, Ice Station Zebra, Golden Rendezvous, Night Without End, The Way to Dusty Death, Breakheart Pass, The Black Shrike, and South By Java Head.
 
Titles that I found okay (mediocre):  Guns of Navarone, When Eight Bells Toll, and Partisan.

Titles that I thought were just plain bad:  Sea Witch, Goodbye California, Athabasca, Flood Gate, Force 10 from Navarone, River of Death.

From time to time I'll jot down lists of my ten favorite novels.  Over the past thirty or fourty years, HMS Ulysses and Ice Station Zebra have always made that list.  Give them a try if you haven't read them before (but don't bother watching the cinematic version of Zebra).

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/26/2011 6:24:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with all of the just plain bad ones.  Where Eagles Dare and Breakheart Pass were both made into enjoyable movies with the dining room scene of Where Eagles Dare being worth the price of the dvd alone. 

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RE: OT - HMS Ulysses - 5/26/2011 10:51:07 AM   
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