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[ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/10/2011 9:03:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just started a new game as Human in an even clusters galaxy of 1400 stars. A short time ago, I saw a pirate frigate attacking one of my research stations, built near a black hole. The frigate was repelled by the stations weapons but managed to severly damage the station before jumping out. Then I selected the station and click on the "queue up construction ship to repair station" button. The construction ship arrived soon, and I saw the message announcing the end of the repair, but when I looked at the station, I saw what the attached screenshot is showing...




Needless to say, my jaw fell down to floor level...

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/10/2011 9:12:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		If the CS somehow moved to the repair while it was still building the mining station than that could explain this. But it's improbable to say the least.
Did you know what that particular CS was doing prior to receiving the repair order? Better yet, do you have a save game that covers the attack and subsequent repair so that we can take a look? It's an "interesting" anomaly

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/10/2011 9:16:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have an autosave made 6 minutes before this screenshot, I don't remember if it was made prior to the attack, but I'll check this.

Edit : and the answer is... the autosave was made during the repair !

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/10/2011 9:23:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		It can be further in the past, the important thing is for the attack to occur at some point so that we can reproduce this.

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/10/2011 9:26:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see, but the only other savegame I can give you was made two ingame years before the attack, that's a bit much...


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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/10/2011 9:48:33 PM   
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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 7:38:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let's say you load that, run the game at 4x speed and check if the attack occurs....if so, make a manual save just before it or even upload it as it is and we'll also run the game at 4x until we get there.

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 9:51:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I ran the savegame up to the moment of the attack, but the attack didn't occur again, sorry, all I can give you is the autosave... I can also give you the normal save if you want to try to reproduce the bug.

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 10:36:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		We can at least try so yeah, please upload them.....let's try and awake the dormant bug

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 10:47:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Saves uploaded under names : "VolcanoAutosave1bugstations" and "Volcanobugstationsbeforeattack".

PS : you should clean up the FTP server from all the old files sent by players which you don't need anymore ^^


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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 10:51:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		that's Matrix's job (at Elliot's request I suppose). Personally I'm glad they keep them and I guess it doesn't hurt if they have the space for it....even with DW big saves

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 11:01:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		As you like it ^^ Let's hope these two savegames will help to kick Murphy and his law out of this game !

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 11:11:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, no luck leaving the game do it's job....so I'll edit a pirate frigate near the station. We should guess the proper moment to do it as I suspect this issues happend when the CS had a particular mission; fortunatelly we can keep an eye on all three of them in the left bar. Will report back.

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 11:21:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok, so first frigate edited in destroyed the base
got another idea, since we know the second base is the narg 2 mining station I went to narg 2 and kept an eye on the CS ships...sure enough, the tenacious beggar got a mission at some point to build a mining station there
so we can save at this point and begin testing with attacking the research station. Now I have to go to work so I'll come back to this later.

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 11:35:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, so I reproduced the issue. Here are the steps:

1) The CS goes to build the mining station at Narg 2

2) The research station is attacked and damaged (have located the nearest pirates and used a frigate of theirs to attack it)

3) Queue repair and the CS responds immediatelly while the mining station is not yet finished -> bug

4) The CS completes the mining station at the new location and then repairs the research station

5) The mining station at narg 2 magically dissapears from there although when the CS left it had only 14 components unbuilt.

Will test some more things but this is clearly a bug, queing should not work like this.

EDIT:

6) Even worse, the CS goes to refuel after this and then goes to build something else; all the CS seem to forget about the actual Narg 2 location now that the mining station is built.
I'll destroy it to see if that changes this behavior, we should at least have a workaround for this.

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RE: [ROTS 1.5.0.8] Station moved in a wrong place - 6/11/2011 11:58:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, so destroying the useless mining station does not trigger any of the CS to build another one at the proper location. I let the game run for two years with no luck; if this is somehow taken of an AI list than restarting the game may clear this and allow a CS to rebuild the mining station but I'll not try that.

I've also tested with a manual CS, let the tenacious beggar begin to construct a few components on auto, then put it on manual (and the construction continued), then queue the repair at the research station -> same behavior, no change.

And one really funny detail: while the CS was building the mining station on top of the reasearch station the mining station at Narg 2 was also completing lol. Once it finished it destroyed itself and only the badly placed one remained.

I guess the only workaround we have is to use the editor to correct all this but we'd have to catch the issue when it's happening.
Well spotted, Volcano, I'll stop my ranting at this point

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