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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 9:18:04 PM   
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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 9:33:01 PM   
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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 9:51:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 228 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 68 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M3a Zero x 45



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 8
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
     Martlet II x 9
     Hurricane I Trop x 12
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 25
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 31
     Spitfire VIII x 25
     Kittyhawk IA x 8
     P-38E Lightning x 7
     P-38F Lightning x 38
     P-39D Airacobra x 32
     P-40E Warhawk x 14
     P-40K Warhawk x 42


Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
     P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
     P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
     31 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 231 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 63 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 186



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 8
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
     Martlet II x 8
     Hurricane I Trop x 12
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 24
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 31
     Spitfire VIII x 23
     Kittyhawk IA x 8
     P-38E Lightning x 7
     P-38F Lightning x 35
     P-39D Airacobra x 31
     P-40E Warhawk x 12
     P-40K Warhawk x 33


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
     Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
     P-38F Lightning: 2 destroyed
     P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
     P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
     42 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *
     35 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *
     30 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *
     10 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *
     32 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *
     28 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet * 

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 189 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 60 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     Ki-21-IIa Sally x 84
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 55
     Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 57
     Ki-49-IIa Helen x 241



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 7
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 6
     Martlet II x 8
     Hurricane I Trop x 12
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 23
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 30
     Spitfire VIII x 21
     Kittyhawk IA x 7
     P-38E Lightning x 7
     P-38F Lightning x 27
     P-39D Airacobra x 26
     P-40E Warhawk x 9
     P-40K Warhawk x 27


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-21-IIa Sally: 13 destroyed, 11 damaged
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
     Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
     Ki-49-IIa Helen: 38 destroyed, 48 damaged
     Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
     P-38E Lightning: 1 damaged
     P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
     P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
     C-47 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground
     Vengeance I: 1 destroyed on ground



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 189 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 60 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
     Ki-49-IIa Helen x 67



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 6
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 5
     Martlet II x 7
     Hurricane I Trop x 11
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 19
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 26
     Spitfire VIII x 17
     Kittyhawk IA x 7
     P-38E Lightning x 5
     P-38F Lightning x 24
     P-39D Airacobra x 22
     P-40E Warhawk x 5
     P-40K Warhawk x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 6 destroyed
     Ki-49-IIa Helen: 31 destroyed, 6 damaged
     Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
     Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed
     Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
      5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 20000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      4 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 20000 feet
              Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 163 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 5
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 5
     Martlet II x 3
     Hurricane I Trop x 10
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 14
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 11
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 20
     Spitfire VIII x 12
     Kittyhawk IA x 4
     P-38E Lightning x 2
     P-38F Lightning x 17
     P-39D Airacobra x 15
     P-40E Warhawk x 4
     P-40K Warhawk x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
     P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
     19 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet * 

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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 189 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 60 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18
     Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 5
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 5
     Martlet II x 3
     Hurricane I Trop x 7
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 13
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 10
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
     Spitfire VIII x 12
     Kittyhawk IA x 4
     P-38E Lightning x 2
     P-38F Lightning x 14
     P-39D Airacobra x 13
     P-40E Warhawk x 1
     P-40K Warhawk x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed
     Ki-49-IIa Helen: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Hurricane I Trop: 1 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Karachi , at 40,8

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 231 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 69 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M3a Zero x 17



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 3
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 3
     Martlet II x 3
     Hurricane I Trop x 6
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 11
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 9
     Spitfire VIII x 6
     Kittyhawk IA x 4
     P-38E Lightning x 2
     P-38F Lightning x 10
     P-39D Airacobra x 11
     P-40E Warhawk x 1
     P-40K Warhawk x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Martlet II: 1 destroyed
     Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
     Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 40,8

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 165 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 65 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     A6M2 Zero x 41
     A6M3a Zero x 50
     G3M2 Nell x 57
     G4M1 Betty x 67
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 28
     Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 37



Allied aircraft
     Fulmar II x 2
     Sea Hurricane Ib x 2
     Martlet II x 2
     Hurricane I Trop x 4
     Hurricane IIa Trop x 6
     Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
     Hurricane IIc Trop x 7
     Spitfire VIII x 5
     Kittyhawk IA x 2
     P-38E Lightning x 3
     P-38F Lightning x 8
     P-39D Airacobra x 8
     P-40E Warhawk x 2
     P-40K Warhawk x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
     A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
     G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
     G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
     Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
     Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
     Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
     Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
     CA Cornwall, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
     CL Ceres
     CL Durban, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
     CL Danae
     CL Hobart, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
     DD Norman
     DD Griffin



Aircraft Attacking:
     25 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
     27 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
     43 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
     23 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
              Naval Attack:  1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 9:53:02 PM   
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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 9:58:39 PM   
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With all your kills, I'm wondering what sort of stats you're getting on your fighter pilots now. Care to show your pilots on your best squadron?


Well, difficult to answer cause i'm rotating my pilots a lot in and out to preserve the best ones...

However this is actually the best british squadron. Its stats started to went so well when it was equipped with Spits...before it was a Hurri MkIIb squadron...






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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 9:59:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		And this is the best US group...the first one who got equipped with the excellent P-38Es...now waiting to be equipped with the brand new P-38G




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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 10:02:18 PM   
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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 10:04:39 PM   
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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/23/2011 10:05:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

So, now rader is not only biting his nails to the quick and tearing out his armpit hairs, he's resorted to tweezing his nostrils and waxing his chest.  The guy is hurting.


It doesn't seem so. In a recent email he told me he's sure to win the air campaign, even if the costs are high. And i'm pretty sure he will in the long run....we all know i cannot sustain these losses far more...

I decided to retire both the Martlets and the Buffalos from the air battles...they'll be used for training british pilots (that i desperately need!)... Especially the Martlets are pure CRAP! Even with good pilots and excellent leaders these planes go down like flies...the group i'm using has 5 enemies in the bag for 25 planes lost to A2A...

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 12:01:07 AM   
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A bad day over Karachi. Rader managed to send again 600 fighters on sweep. The Tojos really ruled the skies today. My guys were too fatigued and they were outnumbered 4-1 to say the least...96 losses for me...80 for Rader...

...it's getting worse...

His bombers dedicated themself in reducing Multan again...

Now i'm scraping the bottom of the barrell for what concerns planes...will have to rely on what is left of my spits pool and start to pray.

We'll try our hail mary move tomorrow. All my fighters will rest and move to Hyderabad (he hasn't attacked the base for weeks now...hopefully he won't decide to shift his target right tomorrow!!...and 110 of my 4Es plus 32 Wellingtons will attack Jodpur at 10k. I know the flak...i know the CAP...i know everything...but i wanna try to get him with his pants down somehow!...it it goes bad...oh well...it could not go worse than what it is right now...so...ATTACK!!!!)

At Lunga...no japanese reaction yet...we keep on reinforcing it and Tulagi...hopefully when he'll decide to counterattack we'll already be too strong to be pushed back...fingers crossed!!


Very tired now...tomorrow we'll be decisive!

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 12:12:15 AM   
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worked in 1914... maybe it'll work in '42 too ;)

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 12:50:22 AM   
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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 1:38:43 AM   
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At Lunga...no japanese reaction yet...we keep on reinforcing it and Tulagi...hopefully when he'll decide to counterattack we'll already be too strong to be pushed back...fingers crossed!!


Why do you assume that he cares about the Solomons? You are doing him a big favour right now - you are using troops, ships and planes that could cause him trouble elsewhere, in a region that has little significance to his current operations.

Let's suppose that he leaves you alone and you build up the Solomons. How many units will you put there? Everything that you have there isn't available to be used somewhere else that is closer to Japan or the DEI.

So, will you garrison it strongly? If so, those troops won't be defending or attacking elsewhere. Will you garrison it lightly? If so he will re-take it easily.

What you are doing is telling him clearly where your forces are, and in an area that doesn't matter to him. He doesn't win by taking the South Pacific.

BTW - suppose he does capture India - will you garrison the Solomons well enough to stop 8 or 10 experienced divisions? And if he doesn't go after the Solomons with the troops he retrieves from India, those troops in the Solomons won't be available to stop a dozen divisions hitting Australia or Alaska...


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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 7:01:35 AM   
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On the 13th bad weather prevented any operation on both sides.

On the 14th he sent the usual 200 Tojos on Sweep, followed by 300 bombers escorted by 150 fighters...no opposition found over Karachi. He bombed at 20k and he managed to torch 22 planes on mine on the ground (mostly transport planes or useless waipiti).
Then it arrived my time. While our fighters and medium bombers were resting and hiding at Hyderabad, 100 4Es attacked Jodpur. As we thought he was not waiting for us...just Nicks on CAP and very few of them. We attacked at 10k...flak was caught by surprise too and was not nearly as effective as it was at Surat. Intel says we have destroyed 240 planes on the ground and seriously damaged the airbase.
My losses are acceptable. 4 B-17s and 4 B24s for various reasons...

I'm tempted to keep on bombing Jodpur now...but still i have not decided yet...will take this morning to think about it...

More news to follow...


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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 7:59:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		So the raid could have gone better. Considering we got him with his pants down and almost no CAP the first day of bad weather clearly ruined my plans. However i'm not complaining.
I think Rader went overconfident here. After months were i didn't dare anymore to attack his major bases full of flak he clearly thought the deterrent was strong enough to stop me from bombing his airfields.
Now my hope is that Rader will be force to devote more fighters on CAP...and that will translate in less fighters over Karachi.

However, analyzing the combat report, the replay and the strategic map i think the raid was so succesfull - in terms on numbers of 4Es lost - due to the fact that he has put out a huge amount of flak from Jodpur.
He sent 80k men right into the desert north of Jodpur to reduce those pesky base forces of mine...a real overkill...along with several inf divisions, he sent there some 10 AA units......units that were not there defending his AF yesterday...

Later during the day i'll reply to the interesting analysis of ADB...

have a good day guys

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 8:37:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		ADB, thanks for your observations.
I've studied the strategic general situation and i've come up with the conclusion that Bullwinkle (and others) observations were right: the Solomons and PM (so southern NG) is probably the only place where at the moment i can penetrate his perimeter.

Following what the intel says, the base built up , what i've read through the lines of some Rader's emails and the results of our last 2 attempts the situation is the following:

Kuriles: Paramushiro and the bases around there are all well built up and filled with troops (intel has repeatetly advided me of a strong concentration of troops there).
Bonis: Iwo is defended by not less than 25k men, among which we've found the 2nd Army HQ, a heavy mortar BN and a Guards Rgt.
Marcus and Wake: as we've seen they're well defended and fortified.
Sapian and the Mariannas: Intel says 25k men are based at Saipan and all the major Mariannas bases are well built up, which means a strong concentration of engineers and possibly troops.
Timor and Southern DEI: Timor and all the bases in the Banda Sea are all strongly garrisoned and well built up (many of them already reached 8 lvl AF). From Biak to Timor he has created a serie of strong air bases.

Considering that Northern Oz is a "free zone" at the moment cause i cannot supply that area of operation and i have no decent bases there, the only possible solutions appear to be in SOPAC.

I really don't think i have other viable options at the moment. And from the Solomons i will be able to, even if slowly, drive northwards and possibly arrive to the Northern Coast of NG without being forced of facing the "shield" he has created in the Banda Sea.

Tarawa and the Gilberts will be a a target nonetheless. If i want to run a campaign in the Solomons i need to secure my right flank. But if i manage to get to Bouganville within the next 6 months i think i'll be in a good position.

Where else should i strike? Consider that the KB remain a constant threat...she's clearly in the pacific now...don't see any other reason why she's not blockading Karachi...so Rader is probably waiting to jump at my throat...a Deep penetration landing, under this Damocle's Sword, is imho, a No No

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 8:44:47 AM   
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As a player who plays japan only -(usually scene 1 though) I am astounded at the numbers of bombers, airframes and above all, divisions that you are facing
This is PDU on?

Looking at these figures.and making a half crazy suggestion -but i would seriously think about invading something really important in the pacific -like the Phillipines or even deeper -he cannot have anything defending anywhere - even an invasion of the DEI's would , must meet an empty island

I just cannot figure out where all his stuff is coming from...........

(of course, if the answer to all that is somewhere in the AAR, apologies)

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 10:23:45 AM   
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Considering that Northern Oz is a "free zone" at the moment cause i cannot supply that area of operation and i have no decent bases there, the only possible solutions appear to be in SOPAC.


Maybe that should suggest something to you, such as to spend some time to build up your bases in that region?
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Where else should i strike? Consider that the KB remain a constant threat...she's clearly in the pacific now...don't see any other reason why she's not blockading Karachi...so Rader is probably waiting to jump at my throat...a Deep penetration landing, under this Damocle's Sword, is imho, a No No


Why do you believe that you must strike at this time? Why not reserve your forces, strengthen them, and use them later at your leisure when it isn't such a crap shoot? Do you really believe that the odds are in your favour?

BTW - you really ought to play the Japanese side for a while. It will give you a much better perspective on the relative potentials.

BTW II - do you truly realize how far and how fast the KB can go?

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 10:24:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am exactly the same 125psi.

I too only play Japan (scen 1) and those loses make me shudder every time I read an entry. I could only imagine the experience levels of some of his squadrons.

I wonder why the Japanese were doing so poorly in the sweeps, especially earlier on. I'm very annoyed as an Japanese player if I haven't achieved 2:1 kill ratio in the air in 42. However, whatever Rader is doing appears to be working up to a point.

I have been sucked into this AAR now as well, very exciting particularly when you have 2 committed players going for broke.

Great Stuff

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 10:43:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 1275psi

i will admit that i have only just found this AAR, and read the last three pages only, (plus first page)
As a player who plays japan only -(usually scene 1 though) I am astounded at the numbers of bombers, airframes and above all, divisions that you are facing
This is PDU on?

Looking at these figures.and making a half crazy suggestion -but i would seriously think about invading something really important in the pacific -like the Phillipines or even deeper -he cannot have anything defending anywhere - even an invasion of the DEI's would , must meet an empty island

I just cannot figure out where all his stuff is coming from...........

(of course, if the answer to all that is somewhere in the AAR, apologies)



Hello mate and welcome aboard!

We do play with PDU on yes. I don't have any term of refernce cause this is the first game i play so i really don't know what the japs have here that don't in scen 1. However Rader doesn't seem to be short of airframes anywhere esle. At least not to a degree where a deep-invasion becomes a "trip in the park".
As far as i can tell he has for sure 50 Netties in the Marshalls along with 2/3 Zero Sentais. He also have all his Land Based Vals and Kates deployed somewhere else than India (where i'm pretty sure he has none of them).
Plus there are at least 6 locations (of which i'm sure about) where he has placed Helens for ASW duties....so 6 more Sentais...

And then, obviously, there's an intact KB (along with his combined surface fleet) waiting for me in the shades...

For what concerns LCUs, i'm sure there's a full division at Truk, plus several other regiments reported between Iwo, Saipan and Timor.


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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 10:51:14 AM   
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I am exactly the same 125psi.

I too only play Japan (scen 1) and those loses make me shudder every time I read an entry. I could only imagine the experience levels of some of his squadrons.

I wonder why the Japanese were doing so poorly in the sweeps, especially earlier on. I'm very annoyed as an Japanese player if I haven't achieved 2:1 kill ratio in the air in 42. However, whatever Rader is doing appears to be working up to a point.

I have been sucked into this AAR now as well, very exciting particularly when you have 2 committed players going for broke.

Great Stuff


I wonder how many of us Japanese players are following this and wondering the same thing? Even though I'm playing scenario 2 I can't understand how Rader can mass so much up here and take such massive losses in the air. Scenario 2 gives you more divisions, starting resources, a few more squadrons and more pilots in training... but it doesn't train those pilots any faster.

It's a great game to follow!

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 11:04:40 AM   
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Considering that Northern Oz is a "free zone" at the moment cause i cannot supply that area of operation and i have no decent bases there, the only possible solutions appear to be in SOPAC.


Maybe that should suggest something to you, such as to spend some time to build up your bases in that region?
...


I'm considering that too ADB...but it takes time, ships and men...i'm slowly feeding Oz with all of them but i cannot be everywhere...i have to make choices.



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Where else should i strike? Consider that the KB remain a constant threat...she's clearly in the pacific now...don't see any other reason why she's not blockading Karachi...so Rader is probably waiting to jump at my throat...a Deep penetration landing, under this Damocle's Sword, is imho, a No No


Why do you believe that you must strike at this time? Why not reserve your forces, strengthen them, and use them later at your leisure when it isn't such a crap shoot? Do you really believe that the odds are in your favour?

BTW - you really ought to play the Japanese side for a while. It will give you a much better perspective on the relative potentials.

BTW II - do you truly realize how far and how fast the KB can go?


I do believe i have to prepare a decent position for when i'll be able to really "strike". I now consider the Solomons a "good" starting base cause from there i can threaten his flank in NG and isolate the Marshalls.
Plus, i don't wanna let him feel too safe. He knows he's risking a lot with committing everything to India. There MUST be a price to pay for this overcommitment! If most of his air and land assets are there, he must be weak somehwere (apparently everywhere south of Lae.) So i want to force him to choose wheater to "don't look" and focus in India-with the obvious consequence of seeing the allies advancing fast in the pacific-, or to divert some assets to the pacific, so weakening his force in India.

I know i'd have to play Japs too. Buty i'm a novice...and this game is already sucking up all my RL ...The KB can go far and fast...i know...in fact that's why the Solomons look so juicy...you don't really need to make a risky amphibious invasion relying only on your CVs in order to advance

Anyway, the KB alone cannot sink Guadalcanal...nor it can hope to isolate it forever. I do fear more a raid deep into my comm lines now by the KB than a counterattack in the Solomons. I'm trying to take every precautions (sp?!) about that...

One final note. It's difficult to determine what is good or not to do.
Many of you suggested me to attack and invade deeply (Mariannas, Bonins, etc).
Many others of you readers have suggested me to remain quiet, get stronger, and wait to have better odds before advancing.
Some others have suggested a more "in the middle" approach.
Considering my low experience it's not always easy to collect all these different suggestions, analise them, make a summery and create my own plan...

Think about the 4Es in India. Some said i should have withdrawn them. Some said i should have used to bomb his ports. Some other to bomb his advancing troops. Some said was a madness cause they'll suck up my supplies....
What to do? Who to listen to?
I'm trying to get into the process of examine every single suggestion, even when it's completely different from the other ones, look at my situation and then decide.

But it's an hard process you know...i keep on making mistakes...i know...but i also do think i'm learning a lot...and i'm getting better

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 11:09:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: njp72

I am exactly the same 125psi.

I too only play Japan (scen 1) and those loses make me shudder every time I read an entry. I could only imagine the experience levels of some of his squadrons.

I wonder why the Japanese were doing so poorly in the sweeps, especially earlier on. I'm very annoyed as an Japanese player if I haven't achieved 2:1 kill ratio in the air in 42. However, whatever Rader is doing appears to be working up to a point.

I have been sucked into this AAR now as well, very exciting particularly when you have 2 committed players going for broke.

Great Stuff


As far as i can tell Rader's squadrons keep on having a very good experience. Especially his Tojos...they must be really crack!...it's impossible to shoot them down...seem to be more nimble than the zeros or the Oscars...

Maybe you haven't read it all...but Rader has already conquered the WHOLE China...so he has lots of units, planes and resources to count upon...


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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 11:52:15 AM   
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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 12:56:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Keep a lose eye on Hyderabad Singh if he gives you an option to attack 80,000 men in open terrain with your massed tanks and a reinforced inf corps you could defeat a large force in detail you dont want to pursue on the rough terrain but I would keep a sizable tank garrison (all armour and motorised units) at Hyderabad Singh if he sticks his neck out to far and attacks with only 80,000 men you could nail him with his back to the desewrt.

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 12:59:17 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		Actually the more I look at the map and the supply routines Hyderbad is a major problem for him - without that base not sure he can surge enough supply forward to keep a big stack supplied for a long siege - dont give it up unless he is clearly flanking you with a large force he will have real timing issues getting his forces co ordinated

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 1:08:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Andy. I've never thought to give up easily Hyderabad. All my strategy in India has always been based on the combination between Hyderabad and Karachi. I've already have all my armoured and mobile units at Hyderabad behind 7 forts. If needed i can easily send a reinforced corp from Karachi.

I really don't think he's thinking about moving along the trail from Jodpur to Hyderabad...during the first weeks of war i made a mistake and sent on "move" status an inf bde from Hyderabad to Jodpur...it took it nearly one month to get there!!!
So i really don't understand his moves...well...we'll see. He must get to Multan imho...and then march all the way towards Hyderabad...that's the only real option he has...but we're already at the middle of october...he won't be near Hyderabad anytime before christmas imho....

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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 1:09:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		And that is what he's brought into the desert North of Jodpur...

Ground combat at 44,13 (near Jodphur)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12157 troops, 753 guns, 393 vehicles, Assault Value = 9094

Defending force 0 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2


Allied ground losses:
     Guns lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)
     Units destroyed 2


Assaulting units:
   Imperial Guards Division
   53rd Division
   Guards Tank Division
   5th Division
   38th Division
   144th Infantry Regiment
   146th Infantry Regiment
   4th Division
   9th Tank Regiment
   4th Guards Division
   32nd Division
   33rd Division
   6th Guards Division
   1st Tank Regiment
   15th Guards Regiment
   37th Division
   21st Division
   143rd Infantry Regiment
   1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
   1st Mobile Infantry Regiment
   17th Division
   33rd Infantry Regiment
   4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
   54th Division
   8th Tank Regiment
   5th Tank Regiment
   39th Division
   61st Infantry Brigade
   3rd Tank Regiment
   148th Infantry Regiment
   14th Guards Regiment
   12th Tank Regiment
   15th Division
   16th Guards Regiment
   1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
   1st Mobile AA Battalion
   2nd RF Gun Battalion
   6th RF Gun Battalion
   1st Mobile Field Artillery Regiment
   7th RF Gun Battalion
   10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
   21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
   25th Army
   56th Field AA Battalion
   49th Field AA Battalion
   2nd Mortar Battalion
   12th Ind. AA Battalion
   55th Mountain Gun Regiment
   35th Field AA Battalion
   3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
   1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
   54th Field AA Battalion
   5th Mortar Battalion
   23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
   14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
   18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
   11th RF Gun Battalion
   1st Air Defense AA Battalion
   3rd Mortar Battalion
   38th Field AA Battalion
   47th Field AA Battalion
   36th Field AA Battalion
   25th Air Defense AA Regiment
   31st Field AA Battalion
   56th Field Artillery Regiment
   41st Air Defense AA Regiment
   41st Air Defense AA Battalion
   8th RF Gun Battalion
   35th Fld AA Gun Co
   5th RF Gun Battalion
   1st RF Gun Battalion
   3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
   22nd AA Regiment
   9th RF Gun Battalion
   3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
   Southern Army
   20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
   3rd RF Gun Battalion
   2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
   48th Field Artillery Regiment
   10th RF Gun Battalion
   21st Army

Defending units:
   4/1st Det. NW Front
   1st Hyderabad Base Force



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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 1:23:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Considering how much flak has been brought out of Jodpur i'll rest my 4Es for 2 days,fill my lines, and then we'll strike back again!

BANZAI!


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RE: Bloody Skies - 6/24/2011 1:42:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't be fooled by Rader's propaganda, no matter how much he has ramped up production, his a/c pools will be very low (especially bombers) by now.

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