LoBaron
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First, I agree that the CAP engaged details are a bit hard to interprete as the way the action is described can somtimes be quite misleading or have more than one meaning. I believe up to a certain point this is intentional, since the possible reasons for each message set to be shown can be different. Still I would prefer an a bit more specific set, the current one concentrates too much on to explain what AND why the fighters are (not) doing something and the messageset is simply too short to cover this to satisfaction. Personally I think what they are doing is explaining enough, since why they do it can be seen from the context and is influenced by too many factors anyway (from morale to other engagements everythings possble). Second, you have to be aware that the CR lists all aircraft remotely in the area of the battle concerned, whether they actually engage in battle or for some reason are unable to. Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 10 The 10 Wildcats are every single plane that is made ready, turned around or recalled some time during the air battle. This includes planes that were returning from another mission, planes being reassigned to defend against the raid, planes that were engaged in another battle and after completion, planes on ready5 on the flight deck, planes that have just been refuelled from another mission, planes on airborne CAP over the TF, planes on LRCAP,... and so on. On your specific situation I read the combat report concerning fighters like this: 6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. This refers to the same unit of planes, they obviousely had a previous different assignement and were vectored on the incoming strike. "Not yet engaged" is one of the most misleading messages IMHO, it means that the fighters are not able to perform the mission assigned because of not specified reasons (but mostly due to the reason that they are engaged somewhere else). This was not the case for VF-2 and I assume that all of the fighters were able to reach interception point. Group patrol altitude is 10000 This just means that the concerned unit has a set patrol alt at 10k (your alt setting usually). Nothing more. It also means that fighters launching in the course of a standard CAP pattern would try to reach this assigned altitude. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes Correct, this message refers to all available fighters from VF-2 VF-5 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) Yes, its a pretty low number, but your CAP was also only set to 30%. Your squads got 27(?) fighters total, 30% of that is 9(!). Of those 9 planes the force is split into: -Airborne CAP -CAP returning to refuel -Planes landing -Planes being refuelled and/or rearmed -Planes under repair after receiving battle or operational damage -Planes under maintenance -Planes on ready5 -Planes scrambling against incoming attacks .... If you try to imagine what time it takes to perform all those different tasks you will see that you have been actually lucky those 6 VF-2 planes were in the air. The 3 planes were probably just getting ready (e.g. being refuelled) and not yet available to scramble immediately. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. - This is you plane number 10 , just referring to your comment on finding only 9 planes in the combat report. Use you imagination what it did, it probably also was on another mission assignement and recalled to support the defense. Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 19000. Correct, in contrast to "patrol altitude" on scramble the fighters obviousely climb to the best intercept position when an enemy strike is detected. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes This line refers to VF-5, as the 19 minutes report referred to VF-2, so it says nothing about the 6 airborne VF-2 Wildcats. It could mean that either it took very long for the standby planes to get ready, or that the single airborne plane was really out of position. Youre not ignorant, the CR is just difficult to interprete. You will get used to it. The best way is to combine information from the CR with the combat replay, you wont find situations you cannot explain by watching both. Looking at only one of em can give you information but you have to be aware its only half the story and focuses on different aspects. I hope this helped.
< Message edited by LoBaron -- 6/30/2011 7:09:13 AM >
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