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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/26/2011 5:43:17 PM   
d0mbo

 

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Status: offline 		Motor Torpedo Launch?

It actually seems quite potent with 2 torpedoes and 2 spares.

Too bad it probably won't hit a thing at 17 knots.


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/26/2011 6:55:46 PM   
Cribtop


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Status: offline 		Use 'em as kamikaze PTs perhaps? With that low speed they'll get owned though. Maybe harbor defense or watching sub choke points like Tshushima?

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/27/2011 10:16:05 AM   
viberpol


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ORIGINAL: PzB

ML?

Why is this boat classified as a ML? It got torps, low speed and can be converted to "ML" with depth charges instead of torps.
No idea what to do with em....can't pool em or anything and range is 7 hexes.

..possible it's a "Motor Launch" - MTL.





Try disbanding it in the port. Do you see a small button "Return to Pool"?
If you play with the latest beta patches you could return it and then evoke in bigger ports closer to the front after 15 days just like ordinary PT boats the Allies have.

Not sure if it works with the last official patch because some time ago there were problems reported with "returned" barges that got stuck at 1 day before arrival.


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/27/2011 7:54:55 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		No way to returns the MLs to a pool...we do have the latest Beta patch installed as well.
No big deal, just an unusual craft with little hope of a successful operational career

Today Allied air fleets in Burma targetted Toungoo and levelled the place!
We fought back well but suffered ac lost on the ground.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 11, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 16

Allied aircraft
P-51A Mustang x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-51A Mustang: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 1
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 13

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
10 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 156 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 59 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 24
F4U-1 Corsair x 57
F4U-1A Corsair x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
31 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
19 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet *
16 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
16 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 39

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Beaufighter VIc: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 50

Aircraft Attacking:
34 x Beaufighter VIc bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x Beaufighter VIc bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 26
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 53
PV-1 Ventura x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 385

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Roti , at 67,116
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 11

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-24D1 Liberator x 21
B-24J Liberator x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 34th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 54,47 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 64

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 34th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 34th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 34th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
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Afternoon Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 2

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 55
F4U-1A Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
28 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
15 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Afternoon Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
A-36 Mustang x 8
B-24D1 Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 54
P-38G Lightning x 9
F4U-1A Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 9 destroyed on ground
J1N1-C Irving: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 273
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Afternoon Air attack on Toungoo , at 57,50
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-C Irving: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 116
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Ground Combat

We're now pulling back to Lashio and leaving only a rearguard at Bhamo; our rearguard
fights exceptionally well against overwhelming enemy force!

Ground combat at Bhamo (63,44)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2747 troops, 33 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 233
Defending force 1084 troops, 2 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Allied adjusted assault: 58
Japanese adjusted defense: 145

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
39th Indian/B Division
39th Indian/C Division

Defending units:
5th Recon Regiment
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Air Battles over Burma





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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/28/2011 9:56:44 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 12, 44

Surface Combat

2 small 6 point destroyers lost as they were surprised today. In return an O-Class Dutch sub worth 11 point
was sunk by mines at Trincomalee.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Okikaze, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Hakaze, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
DD Akikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
E Yugao, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Black
DD Conner
DD Guest
DD Izard
DD Kimberly
DD Sproston
DD Relentless, Shell hits 1

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 96% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 96% moonlight: 3,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 2,000 yards
DD Okikaze collides with DD Hakaze at 54 , 48

Task forces break off...
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Umikaze
DD Kisaragi
DD Yayoi

Allied Ships
PT-308
PT-309, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-310, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-311, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-312, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Showing the full effort of the Air Force to bomb Allied bases and troop formations in Burma today.

Morning Air attack on 34th USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 54,48 (Ramree Island)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 9
N1K1-J George x 11
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20
Ki-84a Frank x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 2
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 15
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 31
Ki-84a Frank x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 6 damaged

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Port hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 34th USN Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 77th Chindit Brigade ...
Also attacking Ramree Island ...
Also attacking 34th USN Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking Ramree Island ...
Also attacking 34th USN Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking Ramree Island ...
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Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 4000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 8 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 45th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 15
Ki-30 Ann x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 56,47 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 6 damaged

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 77th Chindit Brigade, at 54,48 (Ramree Island)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 22
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 8
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 9
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Our troops are hanging on admirably well!

Ground combat at 54,47 (near Ramree Island)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12381 troops, 300 guns, 321 vehicles, Assault Value = 777
Defending force 11283 troops, 175 guns, 655 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Allied adjusted assault: 307
Japanese adjusted defense: 825

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
303 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 39 (3 destroyed, 36 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
205 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Guides Cavalry Regiment
8th KGV Light Cav Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
Gardner's Horse Regiment
75th IAC Regiment
5th Indian Division
77th Coast AA Regiment
1st Indian Light AA Regiment
23rd Indian Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
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Ground combat at Bhamo (63,44)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2732 troops, 33 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 233
Defending force 1068 troops, 2 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Allied adjusted assault: 21
Japanese adjusted defense: 223

Allied assault odds: 1 to 10 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
39th Indian/B Division
39th Indian/C Division

Defending units:
5th Recon Regiment
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Burma

As you can see, Musashi is completing repairs and the very potent 1/44 upgrade.
Together with 2 CVLs she will be ready to rejoin the Fleet shortly.

In Burma our frontline units have been taking a beating and we have suffered some casualties and a division is still cut off north
of Schwebo with little hope of immediate rescue. The only comfort is that it will require a major enemy effort to dislodge it and destroy it.
- That's the sacrifice we have to make for a resilient defence in the region.

If the Central Basin area is to fall Rangoon will not be our main Air Force Base anymore, we probably have to fall back on Bangkok and Victoria Point
using the bases between these bases and Rangoon as staging areas. It's important to plan ahead and this time Indo China, Malaya and the SRA will not be left without proper
defense. Larger LCUs are defending major bases and not a single hex is left without a garrison; as you can see Little Andaman and dot islands have been garrisoned - I broke up a Brigade
into smaller segments and shipped em around together with supplies. This is the plan for ALL bases / dot bases that has development potential for the Allies. This will force an effort from Andy
and make it impossible for 2 para squads to capture the places. Amph landings with unprepped troops is time consuming and costly.




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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/29/2011 4:58:19 PM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		Don't you guys have an HR that prevent to paradrop fragments of a single unit everywhere? Wouldn't it be wise to do that?

Great AAR PzB...learning a lot!

Thx

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/29/2011 5:28:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Don't you guys have an HR that prevent to paradrop fragments of a single unit everywhere? Wouldn't it be wise to do that?

Great AAR PzB...learning a lot!

Thx



In practice it is a hard HR to enforce and can lead to some arguments. Sometimes you want to drop a whole unit but you simply just don't have the airlift. I try to get all of the para unit together eventually but many times it is just a fragment that will take a base and then your opponent may CAP the base to prevent follow on drops. But, my personal feeling is that an empty base is there for the taking. Both sides need to garrison hexes they don't want to lose.

The less HRs the better as they tend to make more problems that they cure. Better yet to communicate with your opponent and put personal limits on your own actions. The golden rule is that if it seems gamey to you it probably will seem gamey to your opponent.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/29/2011 6:09:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crsutton

The golden rule is that if it seems gamey to you it probably will seem gamey to your opponent.

+1

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/29/2011 7:41:17 PM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
Joined: 10/3/2000
From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		We have as few house rules as possible, but one is that a para unit only can be dropped at one location at the time.
If 2-3 squads are used to capture one dot hex one turn another 2-3 can be used the turn after and so on. If 50% of a para unit is stuck fighting somewhere it's an open question how to deploy the rest.

Since both Japan and Allies have multiple para units (and Chindit glider units) it's essential to protect the most valuable places.
Japan's strongest para unit is an Assault unit with 80 AV or so.


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 6/30/2011 6:07:05 PM   
PzB74


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From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 13, 44

Surface Combat

We lost a destroyer today with one heavily damaged but that will survive.
In return we got a much larger Allied destroyer.

More and more Allied naval assets are gathering in the region in an attempt to gain
momentum. My plan is simple: recapture Ramree Island and remove their main objective.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 4
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Black
DD Conner, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Guest
DD Izard
DD Kimberly, Shell hits 4
DD Sproston
DD Relentless

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 4,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 4,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 4,000 yards
Brewster, S.B. crosses the 'T'
Task forces break off...
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10294 troops, 277 guns, 211 vehicles, Assault Value = 2127
Defending force 1308 troops, 32 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Allied adjusted assault: 586
Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 117 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied forces CAPTURE Shwebo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
445 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 57 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (24 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st New Chinese Corps
20th Indian Division
5th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese/B Corps
23rd Indian Division
66th Chinese/C Corps
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
23rd AA Bde
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
Burma Corps
14th Indian Light AA Regiment

Defending units:
13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
55th Field AA Battalion
21st Army
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Burma

This turn the withdrawal from the exposed Schwebo position was completed.
A few stragglers from the north were routed by the very "Ad-hoc Chinese - Indian" Army Andy got there.

We're now going to defend the basin until it becomes impossible - this is the red line.
The fall back position in the jungle is marked by the green line. Plan is to send a smaller LCU and construction unit to all these hexes.

At Toungoo we now have a reserve army that's groing in size; 3 tank divisions, 1 inf division with support from a tank bde and a tank regiment if required.




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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/1/2011 6:17:56 PM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
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Status: offline 		Bitter and heavy fighting throughout Burma today!

At sea the Imperial Navy sent a superior force of 1 CA, 1 CL and 6 destroyers.
This force met an Allied force led by the Fiji class cruiser Ceylon and 4 destroyers.
In heavy fighting the Ceylon was sunk and all Allied destroyers damaged. 4 Japanese destroyers were
also damaged, 2 medium, 1 heavy and one had to be scuttled. In the afternoon a skip bombing Helen scored a hit
on a burning Allied destroyer that was reported sunk.

In the air our air force hit enemy ground troops in the Ramree Island area and bombed enemy shipping.
Allied forces hit Prome and in heavy air to air fighting 40 allied and 70 Jap ac were reported destroyed.
We lost 27 pilots today while 18 ac were destroyed on the ground. Prome had to be abandoned as a forward base like Toungoo.

Only the Rangoon hub now provides local air superiority.

On the ground a slow fallback continues; despite having a base with 5 forts it's impossible to store forward supplies
leaving our troops continously deprieved of everything.

100k supplies has been unloaded at Rangoon and the 1st Japanese Tank Corps has assembled as Toungoo; some 1800 AV makes up
our tactical reserve in the region.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 14, 44

Surface Combat

Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 4
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 3
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 1
E Yugao, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Tachekaze, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
DD Kosugiri, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Satsukaze, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Ceylon, Shell hits 23, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Daly, Shell hits 2
DD Hudson, Shell hits 4
DD Murray, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 6, heavy fires

Low visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
Kasuga, Atsushi orders Japanese TF to disengage

Task forces break off...
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Air Combat


Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 3
N1K1-J George x 22
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 17

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 6 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 4
N1K1-J George x 18
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 4 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 13
Ki-84a Frank x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 3 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Sigsbee, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Daly, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 139 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 56 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 72
PV-1 Ventura x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 14
Runway hits 593
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Afternoon Air attack on Prome , at 55,50
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 119 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 3
N1K1-J George x 15
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 20
Ki-84a Frank x 15

Allied aircraft
A-36 Mustang x 8
B-24J Liberator x 90
P-38G Lightning x 14
F4U-1A Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 15 damaged
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 38
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 491

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
17 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 54,47 (near Ramree Island)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 840 troops, 0 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 766
Defending force 10900 troops, 175 guns, 652 vehicles, Assault Value = 449

Allied adjusted assault: 8
Japanese adjusted defense: 1743

Allied assault odds: 1 to 217

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 77 (4 destroyed, 73 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Guides Cavalry Regiment
8th KGV Light Cav Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
Gardner's Horse Regiment
75th IAC Regiment
5th Indian Division
77th Coast AA Regiment
1st Indian Light AA Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
23rd Indian Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
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Air - Sea - Land Battles in Burma






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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/2/2011 6:48:00 AM   
inqistor


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Status: offline 		IIRC Allies are quite short on Cruisers right now, and actually what is the purpose of all those TFs? You do not use transports in the area, so those can not be raiders, and they are too weak to be raider-hunters. But anyway, there is more Allied ships here, that anyone could assume.

I remember, that you mentioned few months ago, that for saving fuel, you will lower resource transports to Japan, and turn-off LI. Have you done that? It is actually interesting, as Japan have NOT been into any heavy battles, China is quiet, and there are already supply shortage in 1944, without ANY Allies anti-industry intervention.

Remember that you are here to defeat Allied LCU in clear terrain. Most bases in Burma have supply cap, but putting your units outside should help you with supply problem. Do not waste your bombers for attacks in difficult terrain. Prepare army, bombard in clear, and close to strike. There will be no other chances to rout enemy, with air superiority, and ground superiority.


Allies have again more sorties than Japan. Does that mean, that Allies CVs sortied again? Also, you have used too much, too modern fighters on escort. It is clear, no matter of type, fighters will lose (Mustang, Thunderbolt you name it...).

What with this cut-off Division? Does it have ALL borders closed?

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/2/2011 1:48:04 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		They are one more short now
As this combat replay will show; Andy is shuttling in troops and supplies using small convoys and LCTs escorted by PT boats and smaller surface combat TFs.

The Kinugasa and 2 operational destroyers returned to Ramree Island and sank parts of an LC convoy loaded with troops and supplies
On the way out a light cruiser was promptly sunk as well - we still havea sting in 1944!

Not sure Japan is short on supplies but handling industry requirements and shuttling supplies around at the same time is challenging.
I'm afraid it's not possible to defeat Allies in clear terrain in Burma; the second a Japanese major sized army moves into an open hex its pounded by hundreds of
4Es and tactical bombers. Without sufficient supplies and with huge disruption levels any kind of attack becomes meaningless.

If however we get a chance to attack inside a clear base hex things would change.
Aside from this our purpose in Burma is to stall the Allied advance for as long as possible (15th of May first and then we'll see).

No idea, Allied carrier strength should be picking up again by now but I estimate another 2 months or so before they will sortie against any of our major strong holds.
The cut off division can only move west - towards a stack of 21 enemy units...there's just a garrison unit opposing it in the hex and a break out over the river would
have been possible in real life. Now it's more or less doomed and have to sell itself dearly by blocking enemy supply lines and tying up forces.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 15, 44

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
DD Shirayuki
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
LCM 542B
LCM 542C, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCM 542D, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
LCM 542E, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 542H, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCM 543A, Shell hits 2, heavy damage
LCM 543B, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
LCM 543E, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 543G
LCVP 543M, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 543Q
LCM 592A, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1449 casualties reported
Squads: 69 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (18 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 75% moonlight
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
CL Dragon, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Kidd
DD Stembel
DD Quickmatch
DD Petard, Shell hits 1

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 75% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 75% moonlight: 1,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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Sub vs Sub: SS I-16 attacking SS Dace at 43,68 - near Sabang

Japanese Ships
SS I-16

Allied Ships
SS Dace, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

SS I-16 launches 6 torpedoes at 1,000 yards
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Air Combat

Again heavy air combat; I have to use first class fighters for our escort / sweep missions over Ramree Island.
This will be a time limited operation though.

Morning Air attack on 28th Army, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 1
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 28th Army, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 7
N1K1-J George x 27
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 15

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
P-38J Lightning x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 8
P-51A Mustang x 5
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-51A Mustang: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
8 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
5 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo sweeping at 15000 feet
1 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 62

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
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Morning Air attack on 9th Division, at 55,48 , near Ramree Island
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
B-25G Mitchell x 28

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 9th Division ...
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Afternoon Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y1 Judy x 9
J2M2 Jack x 1
N1K1-J George x 3
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
P-38J Lightning x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7
P-51A Mustang x 4
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y1 Judy: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
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Ground Combat

Our recon regiment is performing superbly!
The rest of the front in the area is now falling gently back towards the Mandalay line and
I'm sure even regimental sized blocking units in the jungle will be a major obstacle for an enemy advance.

Ground combat at Bhamo (63,44)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2690 troops, 33 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 232
Defending force 1011 troops, 2 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Allied adjusted assault: 24
Japanese adjusted defense: 139

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
39th Indian/B Division
39th Indian/C Division

Defending units:
5th Recon Regiment
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Combat in Burma

A sub was sunk by a sub and a poor old British cruiser took 2 torpedoes which promptly sank here with a little help from 8" shells.





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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/2/2011 4:14:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB
I'm afraid it's not possible to defeat Allies in clear terrain in Burma; the second a Japanese major sized army moves into an open hex its pounded by hundreds of
4Es and tactical bombers. Without sufficient supplies and with huge disruption levels any kind of attack becomes meaningless.


Yes, the ability of big 4E strikes to raise the disruption of any japanese unit to 90+ in clear terrain is most annoying.

And I am afraid it is only going to get worse. Once the Superforts start flying ground attack missions even bad terrain won't save you.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/2/2011 5:03:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rainer79

quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
I'm afraid it's not possible to defeat Allies in clear terrain in Burma; the second a Japanese major sized army moves into an open hex its pounded by hundreds of
4Es and tactical bombers. Without sufficient supplies and with huge disruption levels any kind of attack becomes meaningless.


Yes, the ability of big 4E strikes to raise the disruption of any japanese unit to 90+ in clear terrain is most annoying.

And I am afraid it is only going to get worse. Once the Superforts start flying ground attack missions even bad terrain won't save you.



I am most of the way through reading Antony Beevor's D-Day, which covers the entire Normandy campaign including the breakout and dash across France. Apparently the ability of massed 4EB strikes to do just that was quite real!

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/2/2011 11:06:09 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Disruption is ok but the inability to stockpile supplies in a fortified base is truly annoying...
In Normandy Allies bombed themselves as much as the Germans and 4Es were only used in a tactical role on a couple of occasions.

But that's ok - it's 1944 and we now fight a holding battle.
Today we measure up another string of successes; offensive as defensive.

The Kinugasa went back to Ramree Island and caused havoc among the smaller Allied crafts there.
As intel has learned parts of the 9th Oz Div has been tin canned to Ramree Island. Poor sods....

A rather quiet turn in the air as most Allied air efforts take a break.
I'm in the process of rotating some fresh air units in but the low morale fighter sqds is an advantage at times.
- If heavily engaged they will break off but if attacking enemy bombers or sweeping enemy fighters they will still perform well enough.

Today we managed to extract the Imp tank division and a brigade from north of Ramree Island.
These were in danger of being cut of as 80000 enemy troops now are attacking the hex east of Ramree Island.

I'm quite pleased with the situation in Burma; nothing critical - the only thing we have to live with is to slowly give ground.
But this is ok, a strong defense in the jungle that can slowly fall back if required will ensure a strong defense not only of Burma but also of Indo-China.
Not going to let Andy have a free run in here this time.

Don't tell anyone but we got 16+ divisions in Burma...
Keep slugging Andy and we'll be ready to meet you in Central Pacific, South Pacific & SRA when you come!


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 16, 44

Sub & Surface Combat

Submarine attack near Akyab at 54,46

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64

Allied Ships
LCVP 532L, Shell hits 4, heavy damage

LCVP 532L is sighted by SS RO-64
SS RO-64 attacking LCVP 532L on the surface
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
DD Umikaze
DD Shirayuki
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
PT-132, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-133
PT-134
PT-317, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-545, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-546
PT-547, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

Low visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 6,000 yards

Task forces break off...
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
DD Umikaze
DD Shirayuki
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
PT-308, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
DD Umikaze
DD Shirayuki
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
LCT-155, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
LCT-156, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-158, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCT-159, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
LCT-160, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
LCT-161, Shell hits 19, and is sunk
LCT-162, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
LCT-164, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCT-165, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCT-166, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT-305, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
PT-306, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
PT-307, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
LCM 592B, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
LCM 592C, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
LCM 592D, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
LCM 592E, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
LCM 593A, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCM 593D, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCVP 593F
LCVP 593H, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCVP 593K
LCVP 593L
MTB 275, Shell hits 2
MTB 284

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards

Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 8
N1K1-J George x 34
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 25

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 6
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7
F4U-1A Corsair x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 2
N1K1-J George x 16
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 60

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 9
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 42
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 4

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x J2M2 Jack sweeping at 30000 feet
10 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo sweeping at 15000 feet
28 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
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Fighting in Burma Theater







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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/3/2011 2:42:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: Rainer79

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ORIGINAL: PzB
I'm afraid it's not possible to defeat Allies in clear terrain in Burma; the second a Japanese major sized army moves into an open hex its pounded by hundreds of
4Es and tactical bombers. Without sufficient supplies and with huge disruption levels any kind of attack becomes meaningless.


Yes, the ability of big 4E strikes to raise the disruption of any japanese unit to 90+ in clear terrain is most annoying.

And I am afraid it is only going to get worse. Once the Superforts start flying ground attack missions even bad terrain won't save you.



I am most of the way through reading Antony Beevor's D-Day, which covers the entire Normandy campaign including the breakout and dash across France. Apparently the ability of massed 4EB strikes to do just that was quite real!


+1 here Rainer79.
& I just can't believe the 4Es were IRL used to carpet bombing the units that were clashed in close combat fighting with each other.
If I were again to negotiate the house rules of my PBEM I'd suggest "no use of strategic bombers on ground attack mission" at least if the enemy LCU is in the same hex as an Allied one...

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/3/2011 4:12:59 PM   
PzB74


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From: No(r)way
Status: offline 		Well, we have an agreement that 4Es wil not be "overused" in a tactical role.
But if there is a crisis for the Allies I'm quite certain they will sortie and save the day.

Quiet turn again!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 17, 44

Sub - Surface Combat

Submarine attack near Akyab at 54,46

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64

Allied Ships
LCM 542B, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

LCM 542B is sighted by SS RO-64
SS RO-64 attacking LCM 542B on the surface
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
LCT-167
LCT-168
LCT-169
LCT-178
LCT-320
LCT-321
LCT-322
LCT-323
LCT-324
PT-313
PT-314
PT-315
PT-316, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 53,49, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
PT-496
PT-548
PT-549
PT-550
PT-551, Shell hits 1, on fire
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Air Combat

We got a small allied recon unit in the open hex in the basin; I'm just bombing it because moving anything in there to
kick it out will expose our own LCU to much.

Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 32

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

This is Andys main force; as you can see our timely withdrawal of the Imp Tank division has
provided us with ample force to resist attacks in the jungle here. I'm even thinking about moving the
tank division south. What do you think, is 2 divisions and support units enough to stallmate an enemy
attack here?

Ground combat at 55,48 (near Ramree Island)
Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 80315 troops, 1496 guns, 982 vehicles, Assault Value = 3093
Defending force 37454 troops, 456 guns, 763 vehicles, Assault Value = 1331

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
25th Indian Division
19th Indian Division
16th Chindit Brigade
2nd British Division
45th Indian Brigade
4th Marine Regiment
7th Indian Division
3rd Commando Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
26th Indian Division
14th Army
IV Indian Corps

Defending units:
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division
9th Division
Guards Tank Division
28th Army
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/4/2011 5:21:43 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Rather not too interesting turns..only Burma
We now produce enough HA-45 engines to support full Frank and George production; some 440 units per month.
Need to increase further to support production of Frances and Peggy bombers.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 18, 44

Sub & Surface Combat

Less decisive surface actions this turn!

Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,42

Japanese Ships
SS RO-67

Allied Ships
LCM 533B, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage

LCM 533B is sighted by SS RO-67
SS RO-67 attacking LCM 533B on the surface
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 2
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Shiokaze, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Bullard
DD Charrette, Shell hits 1
DD John Rodgers, Shell hits 2
DD Stevens, Shell hits 1
DD Parrott, Shell hits 1
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
DD Umikaze
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 3
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
DD Bullard
DD Charrette
DD John Rodgers
DD Stevens, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Parrott
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Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,42

Japanese Ships
SS I-158

Allied Ships
LCVP 532M, Shell hits 1, heavy damage


LCVP 532M is sighted by SS I-158
SS I-158 attacking LCVP 532M on the surface
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Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,41

Japanese Ships
SS I-27

Allied Ships
LCVP 593P, Shell hits 1, heavy damage


LCVP 593P is sighted by SS I-27
SS I-27 attacking on the surface
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on 9th Indian Division, at 58,45 , near Mandalay
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 13 damaged

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 58,45 , near Mandalay
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 79
P-38H Lightning x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
645 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 14th Division, at 58,45 , near Mandalay
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25G Mitchell x 28

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
191 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
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- Annoying: why the heck attack with bombs when orders is torpedoes and there are 99 torps in base Air HQ???

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 53,47

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Parrott
DD Stevens

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x P1Y1 Frances bombing from 15000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Our (routed) division west of Schwebo was routed again after heavy air strikes that
took out most of its remaining combat capabilities. Now the division need R&R.
Will most likely be sent to Bangkok.

Ground combat at 55,48 (near Ramree Island)
Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 80314 troops, 1496 guns, 982 vehicles, Assault Value = 3392
Defending force 37504 troops, 456 guns, 763 vehicles, Assault Value = 1335

Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Commando Brigade
25th Indian Division
4th Marine Regiment
Guides Cavalry Regiment
45th Indian Brigade
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
75th IAC Regiment
16th Chindit Brigade
7th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
19th Indian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
2nd British Division
26th Indian Division
14th Army
IV Indian Corps

Defending units:
9th Division
33rd Division
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
28th Army
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
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Ground combat at 58,45 (near Mandalay)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33998 troops, 622 guns, 407 vehicles, Assault Value = 1273
Defending force 4913 troops, 118 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Allied adjusted assault: 227
Japanese adjusted defense: 11

Allied assault odds: 20 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker: supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
2321 casualties reported
Squads: 149 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 151 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (15 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
14th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
17th Indian Division
XV Indian Corps
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
14th Division
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/5/2011 8:13:17 PM   
PzB74


Posts: 5076
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Status: offline 		Not a good day; enemy destroyers get the better of our surface TFs!
First old Tatsuta takes a single torpedo which sinks her. Worse, in another close range encounter with more torps the Kinugasa
gets all the attention from 1000 yards, eats 3 torps and sinks.

This is more or less the end of the Navys effort around Ramree, it's swarming with PT boats and destroyers.

On land hundreds of allied ground units are squeezing out of every corner of Burma.
WitP has now turned into War in Burma and it's chiding my interest in the game.

It's very likely that we will be forced to withdraw into the jungle as even 5 forts in clear hexes isn't enough to protect our ground units there,
even when we got loads of AA units. We got 700 fighters in 4 bases in and around Rangoon but if the basin is lost we will have to pull these back.
- We will do our best to defend Rangoon, at least until the monsoon season starts.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 19, 44

Sub & Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CL Tatsuta
DD Umikaze
DD Uzuki
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
PT-183
PT-323
PT-329
PT-381
PT-496, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT-548
MTB 284
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Submarine attack near Chittagong at 55,42

Japanese Ships
SS RO-67, hits 13, heavy damage

Allied Ships
AM Kumaon
xAK Edgar Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

SS RO-67 is sighted by escort
AM Kumaon attacking submerged sub ....
AM Kumaon fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Kumaon fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Kumaon attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-67 forced to surface!
xAK Edgar Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Edgar Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Edgar Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
AM Kumaon firing on surfaced sub ....
AM Kumaon firing on surfaced sub ....
AM Kumaon firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 3
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Umikaze
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
DD Kidd
DD Stembel, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Quickmatch, Shell hits 1
DD Petard

Low visibility due to Rain with 32% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 32% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
Kasuga, Atsushi crosses the 'T'

Task forces break off...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Umikaze
DD Uzuki
DD Shiokaze

Allied Ships
DD Black
DD Guest
DD Izard
DD Kimberly, Shell hits 5
DD Sproston

Low visibility due to Rain with 32% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 32% moonlight: 2,000 yards

Task forces break off...
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TF 29 encounters mine field at 55,42

Allied Ships
LCT-373, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
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Air Combat

Heavy flak here...

Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 39

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 24 damaged
Beaufighter VIc: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
39 x Beaufighter VIc bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 100 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 3
B-24J Liberator x 46
B-25D1 Mitchell x 8
P-38H Lightning x 9

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 122

Also attacking 56th Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking Mandalay ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Mandalay ...
Also attacking 16th AA Regiment ...
Also attacking Mandalay ...
Also attacking 50th Field AA Battalion ...
Also attacking Mandalay ...
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Morning Air attack on 6th Guards Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 55
B-25G Mitchell x 12
P-38H Lightning x 8

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 6th Guards Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25G Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Post #: 2660
RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/9/2011 6:57:35 AM   
inqistor


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Status: offline 		Since Allies sends mostly unescorted LCxs, using only DDs should be anough (actually even MGBs should be enough), so I do not see, why you need Cruisers for your hunting groups. Also submarines with lots of gun ammo can be useful. I do not see any serious escorts for those ships.
I have counted in both large stacks equivalent of 13 Divisions. You are both pretty close on-land. The main difference is that Allies have to send short-legged airgroups around the globe, and you can transfer them by internal lines. Break their airgroups morale, and you will win.
This is really last chance to defeat Allies on land. Another possibility will be on Java, or Philippines, but then I doubt you will be able to land any larger reinforcements.

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ORIGINAL: PzB
Morning Air attack on 9th Indian Division, at 58,45 , near Mandalay
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 13 damaged

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Your bombers seems to reach almost 1 squad hit per bomber used. Maybe your chances in clear terrain are slim, but theirs are no better. Allies have more AA power, and their bombers carry more bombs, but your supply lines are shorter, and you have bases nearby, so can use local CAP. It seems that both sides are similarly scr****, but Japan can rebuild quicker. And later firepower ratio will be even worse.
Sweep, and LRCAP those units, and then send 100s bombers every day. In a week, they will have no supply, and no combat power. Their airgroups morale will be broken, then close to counterattack, and rout them.

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- Annoying: why the heck attack with bombs when orders is torpedoes and there are 99 torps in base Air HQ???

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 53,47

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Parrott
DD Stevens

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x P1Y1 Frances bombing from 15000 feet *

Planes DO NOT carry torpedoes at extended range (see this "*"? - extended range).

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/9/2011 3:15:49 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Yeah, just noticed that the Frances unit somehow had reverted to normal range settings which caused it to attack shipping at Ramree Island one hex into extended range, grrr! :p)

Allied destroyers of 44-45 are superior to Jap destroyers and they have vastly more of them. I've only been sending in "old expendables" and don't want to loose too many fleet destroyers.
To counter Allied CLs and CAs I had to send in a few heavy ships and also decided to send a few old light cruisers as destroyer leaders.

80% of the subs I've sent into the area have been sunk or heavily damaged, ac and smaller vessels carry enough ASW capabilities to decisively outweigh the advantages of sending more boats.
There are hundreds of Allied fighters at Akyab so tried to send in a bombardment force but a sub attacking an escort revealed the composition of the entire battle group today

No way to break Allied air power in the region and as you can see below Allied meds and heavies pound our LCUs in our fortified clear hex bases so badly that it's virtuall impossible to
defend the basin anymore. In order to retain our combat strength it will soon become necessary to abandon the basin. The Amb brigade at Ramree is being shattered and we're now air lifting
as many squads as possible out.

I have deleted many of our airstrikes that does no damage to enemy LCUs - so while I may break the smaller ones I'm far from sure we can seriously hurt a major stack.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 21, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 60
PV-1 Ventura x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 105
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Morning Air attack on 267th Armoured Brigade, at 56,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 267th Armoured Brigade, at 56,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 15 damaged

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 54,48
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 34
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 13 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Paul Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Godavari

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 18
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 3rd Carabiniers Regiment, at 56,47 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 12 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16
B-17F Fortress x 16
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 71

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 10
B-24J Liberator x 66
B-25D1 Mitchell x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 257

Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 38th Division ...
Also attacking 14th Division ...
Also attacking Mandalay ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Mandalay ...
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Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 14
Wellington B.X x 12
Wellington GR.XIII x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 184
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Morning Air attack on Lashio , at 62,46
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.III x 12

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 78

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 113 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 94

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 28

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 128
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Morning Air attack on 6th Guards Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 16
P-38H Lightning x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
190 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 6th Guards Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIc x 38

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
38 x Beaufighter VIc bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 6th Guards Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 28
P-38G Lightning x 19

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 6th Guards Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 35
B-25G Mitchell x 16
P-38H Lightning x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
545 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 81 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 24

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 12
Runway hits 105

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 6th Guards Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25G Mitchell x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25G Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Ramree Island (54,48)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6458 troops, 162 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 543
Defending force 1903 troops, 31 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 66

Allied adjusted assault: 86
Japanese adjusted defense: 23

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
176 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
50th Indian Para Brigade
77th Chindit Brigade
9th Australian Division
1883rd Engineer Aviation Battalion
26th USN SeaBees /1
34th USN Naval Construction Battalion
111th RN Base Force /8
1st West African AA Rgt /17
2nd West African AA Rgt /16
51st (East African) Const Bn /1

Defending units:
2nd Amphibious Brigade
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Ground combat at Bhamo (63,44)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2710 troops, 33 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 231
Defending force 971 troops, 2 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Allied adjusted assault: 49
Japanese adjusted defense: 202

Allied assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
39th Indian/B Division
39th Indian/C Division

Defending units:
5th Recon Regiment
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 22, 44

Sub Attacks

ASW attack near Bassein at 51,52

Japanese Ships
DD Naganami
BB Ise
BB Nagato
CA Ashigara
CA Nachi
DD Suzunami
DD Tamanami
DD Makinami
DD Makigumo
DD Yukikaze
DD Kagero
DD Hamanami
DD Okinami

Allied Ships
SS Sand Lance, hits 2

SS Sand Lance launches 6 torpedoes at DD Naganami
Sand Lance diving deep ....
DD Yukikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kagero fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hamanami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Okinami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yukikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yukikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yukikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yukikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Yukikaze is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Akyab at 54,45
Japanese Ships
SS RO-64, hits 5

Allied Ships
LCM 593C
AM Carnatic

SS RO-64 is sighted by escort
RO-64 bottoming out ....
AM Carnatic fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Carnatic fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Carnatic fails to find sub, continues to search...
AM Carnatic attacking submerged sub ....
AM Carnatic fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
B-17F Fortress x 16
P-38H Lightning x 14
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 60
PV-1 Ventura x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 300
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 9 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 100 feet
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 25
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 45th Recce Regiment, at 57,48 , near Magwe
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Bhamo , at 63,44
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington B.X x 15

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 90

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Wellington B.X bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 125
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Ramree Island (54,48)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10182 troops, 246 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 541
Defending force 1768 troops, 31 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Allied adjusted assault: 529

Japanese adjusted defense: 13
Allied assault odds: 40 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
414 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
50th Indian Para Brigade
77th Chindit Brigade
9th Australian Division
34th USN Naval Construction Battalion
111th RN Base Force /8
1st West African AA Rgt /17
2nd West African AA Rgt /16
26th USN SeaBees /1
1883rd Engineer Aviation Battalion
51st (East African) Const Bn /1

Defending units:
2nd Amphibious Brigade
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/9/2011 6:28:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB
I'm afraid it's not possible to defeat Allies in clear terrain in Burma; the second a Japanese major sized army moves into an open hex its pounded by hundreds of
4Es and tactical bombers. Without sufficient supplies and with huge disruption levels any kind of attack becomes meaningless.


Yes, the ability of big 4E strikes to raise the disruption of any japanese unit to 90+ in clear terrain is most annoying.

And I am afraid it is only going to get worse. Once the Superforts start flying ground attack missions even bad terrain won't save you.



I am most of the way through reading Antony Beevor's D-Day, which covers the entire Normandy campaign including the breakout and dash across France. Apparently the ability of massed 4EB strikes to do just that was quite real!


+1 here Rainer79.
& I just can't believe the 4Es were IRL used to carpet bombing the units that were clashed in close combat fighting with each other.
If I were again to negotiate the house rules of my PBEM I'd suggest "no use of strategic bombers on ground attack mission" at least if the enemy LCU is in the same hex as an Allied one...


My two cents here. Ark and I have a great close game going. However, as Ark's opponent I would respectfully never agree to this house rule. One reason is that a hex is 50 miles across and the Japanese player might have 100,000 or more troops in that hex. As with any force, the majority of these troops are not eyeball to eyeball with the enemy and if in open terrain such as in Burma or especially OZ would be very vulnerable to this type of bombing. Second reason is the constant short supply of Allied medium bombers combined with the almost worthlessness of Allied fighters in this role. (a very important role for them) would in effect place a severe handicap on the Allied player. Ark has seen my pools and can tell you that even in Jan of 44, I have virtually no types of medium bombers. (I am willing to bet in our game through 24 months of combat that the ratio of Japanese medium bomber sorties to Allied is running at about a 10-1 rate) and his medium bombers pools seem to be very healthy. (scen #2)

Third it can be argued that with the level of training, doctrine, advanced ground control and radio communication that the Allied were far better suited to close ground support with "any" type of platform than the Japanese. Why not a HR limiting allowing no close air support from any Japanese plane except single engine? My troops have been eating Japanese bombs for a long time now.

Lets get real here. 4E or not, any Japanese unit moving in open terrain after mid 1943, anywhere where there is Allied air, should just get pounded to dust. I see absolutely nothing unreal or incorrect about this. I realize that this is a JFB nightmare but after all, you choose to play them.


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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/9/2011 7:55:04 PM   
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/9/2011 7:55:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, we don't have such a house rule - just an greement not to overdo things.
My main issue is that LCUs camped in a major bases with 5-6 forts should be more or less safe from air interdiction in a 50 mile hex...
They're not, neither is their supplies!

Jap ground support isn't worth much...as this turn shows.

As our bombardment TF was spotted yesterday I ordered the big ships to turn back.
I counted on that Andy would evacuate his ac from Akyab and send most of his destroyers there.
- That was correct, hardly any ac reported there today.

Instead I sent a strong destroyer force to Ramree Island and they sank 4 destroyer escorts and 4 PT boats.
The old Minekaze class Urukaze took a hit and sank.

Today's destroyer sweep was used to cover our large minesweeper and 125 mines were laid.
Enjoy


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 23, 44

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Makigumo
DD Makinami
DD Naganami
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Okinami
DD Hamanami
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DE Baron, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
DE Parks, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DE Cabana, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DE Dionne, Shell hits 34, and is sunk

Poor visibi
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Makigumo
DD Makinami
DD Naganami
DD Tamanami
DD Suzunami
DD Okinami
DD Hamanami
DD Uzuki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PT-133
PT-134
PT-546, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

Task forces break off...
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TF 92 encounters mine field at Ramree Island (54,48)

Allied Ships
PT-548, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
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TF 92 encounters mine field at Ramree Island (54,48)

Allied Ships
PT-548, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Okinami
DD Uzuki, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PT-183, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PT-323
PT-329, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PT-381, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
MTB 284

Task forces break off...
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Air Combat

100+ bombers and ca 50 Allied ground casualties from an armored brigade in an open hex...
Not great! 23 B-25s caused 173 Jap casualties in a single attack. Just can't compete.

Morning Air attack on 267th Armoured Brigade, at 55,49 , near Prome
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 7 damaged

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 267th Armoured Brigade, at 55,49 , near Prome
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 68
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 7
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 14 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 8 damaged

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 22 (4 destroyed, 18 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 21st Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 97 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 49
B-25D1 Mitchell x 23

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

A small Allied LCU crossed the river and shock attacked out division in Magwe.
In real life this would have been suicide...a wipeout.

Ground combat at Magwe (57,47)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 436 troops, 0 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 44
Defending force 13381 troops, 173 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 481

Allied adjusted assault: 1
Japanese adjusted defense: 530

Allied assault odds: 1 to 530 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 23 (12 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Carabiniers Regiment

Defending units:
5th Guards Division
42nd Ind.AA Gun Co
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Ground combat at Ramree Island (54,48)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10122 troops, 246 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 535
Defending force 1046 troops, 25 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Allied adjusted assault: 360
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 360 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1422 casualties reported
Squads: 79 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 96 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 29 (29 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
50th Indian Para Brigade
77th Chindit Brigade
9th Australian Division
111th RN Base Force /8
1883rd Engineer Aviation Battalion
34th USN Naval Construction Battalion
26th USN SeaBees /1
2nd West African AA Rgt /16
1st West African AA Rgt /17
51st (East African) Const Bn /1

Defending units:
2nd Amphibious Brigade
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Burma

When I CAP Ramree Island with enemy transports flying in I get 7-8 messages about intercepts and maybe 1 kill.
When 18 Emily's flew in to pick up Ambh Bde troops today 11!! were lost We got out some 460 troops, got some 200 in Rangoon and
these will rebuild the unit.




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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/10/2011 6:00:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it is dependent on the amount of CAP over the target. One squadron will just turn transports back and kill one or two on occasion--and it looks to me as if some of the transports will complete the mission as well. They have worked it out fairly nice. However, he must have had a large CAP over that hex to shoot down all of those Emilys. That is the only time it has worked for me. Why don't you ask him if that was the case. I would be interested in knowing.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/10/2011 9:46:12 AM   
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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/10/2011 4:46:42 PM   
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I sent a strong destroyer force to Ramree Island and they sank 4 destroyer escorts and 4 PT boats.
The old Minekaze class Urukaze took a hit and sank.

Since you are hunting mainly LCxs, and PTs, I was wondering about use of PGs. I do not see any use for them, especially those without ASW weapons. DDs are not armored, so they should have chance even with them, and you do not need any torpedoes, because most ships are too small, so guns should suffice.
PGs are slow, however if you put on them heavy LRCAP, you will at least slaughter enemy anti-ship planes, for small price of few PGs

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100+ bombers and ca 50 Allied ground casualties from an armored brigade in an open hex...
Not great! 23 B-25s caused 173 Jap casualties in a single attack. Just can't compete.

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 22 (4 destroyed, 18 disabled)

I have no idea, how it is calculated, but 2 Support Squads have 2*15 men amongst them, so somehow rest of damage equals ONE man...
16 squads, and 22 vehicles is quite good result. I do not think there can be "somehow disabled", or "completely disabled" squad. Disabled is disabled, and without full supply they should not recover.

Now, if you look closer, your attacks at 9k have better results, that those at lower altitude, that is because you are coming too low, and fly exactly into those gazillion twin-Vickers. This could be good for larger supply usage, but not good for your planes. I have checked database, and those twin AAMGs have few upgrades, but all have ceiling at 2100. So your LOWEST attack altitude should be 3000.
Also, if you want to go higher, and there is enemy AA unit in hex, you should go at 10k, because 40mm Bofors have 9800 ceiling.

quote:

When I CAP Ramree Island with enemy transports flying in I get 7-8 messages about intercepts and maybe 1 kill.
When 18 Emily's flew in to pick up Ambh Bde troops today 11!!


Allied transports are very sturdy. MAVISes are not only slow, but I am not sure, that they are even armed. And Allied fighters are always heavily armed.
Try to LRCAP with NICKs.

Also, where are your fighters? I do not see you intercept those Allied attacks. Every lost bomber will lower morale, when they reach point, when they begin retreating after just seeing your fighters, there will be time to counterattack.

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/10/2011 5:56:08 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		SnagIt somehow didn't work this turn so no screens....

Our transport commander is rated as "rated careful" and the Mavis transport has no armor but a durability of 44.
This turn a crack George unit with 45 fighters was sent to sweep Ramree Island; it claimed 25 Warhawks. Probably the same that had
a feast with our transports yesterday! In total 45 to 8 ac were lost today in Jap favor.

At the most I've had 100+ fighters on CAP over Ramree Island, all types - results have always been minute versus transport ac.

For several reasons I'm now more careful with my fighters; this turn 400 Allied fighters swept the hex east of Ramree Island, no doubt
in preparation for a major Allied air bombardment - which didn't happen The ground assault thus failed miserably....and we can now
clearly see the Allied main effort on our flank.

Our fighters also need some R&R; numbers and morale must up and I don't want to disperse them too much as I need to defend the Rangoon area
against the Allied hordes of fighters and bombers. A huge convoy with 120k supplies is now unloading and it will take one of our depleted divisions
back to Bangkok. It's possible that this is the last major convoy to arrive at Rangoon - if the basin is lost air superiority over Rangoon will most likely
also be lost.

Well, small slow warships are almost useless against enemy PT boats and destroyers - you saw what happened to Allied DE's last turn; demolished.
Ground casualties from interdiction is an iffy issue, now idea why the numbers are so strange. I have varied bombing altitude as much as possible to get the bombers
to attack uncoordinated, this seem to yield best results.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 24, 44

Naval

Our minefueld at Ramree should cause some headache and lure some juicy mine sweepers into our fang!

TF 92 encounters mine field at Ramree Island (54,48)

Allied Ships
PT-323, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
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Air Combat

Payback time!

Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 45

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 15 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
37 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
80th FG/459th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 15 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
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Ground Combat

What an utter failure, worst modified AV ever!
If I had done something like that losses would have been 5 digit.

Ground combat at 55,48 (near Ramree Island)
Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 106310 troops, 2020 guns, 1934 vehicles, Assault Value = 4160
Defending force 38320 troops, 464 guns, 769 vehicles, Assault Value = 1398

Allied adjusted assault: 151

Japanese adjusted defense: 5023
Allied assault odds: 1 to 33

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
414 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2709 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 213 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 209 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Vehicles lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Assaulting units:
14th Chindit Brigade
3rd Commando Brigade
2nd British Division
Guides Cavalry Regiment
26th Indian Division
8th KGV Light Cav Regiment
7th Indian Division
3rd Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment
25th Indian Division
32nd Infantry Division
31st Infantry Regiment
4th Marine Regiment
16th Chindit Brigade
1st Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
75th IAC Regiment
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
19th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
5th Indian Division
14th Army
77th Coast AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
1st Indian Light AA Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Southeast Asia
8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
23rd Indian Engineer Battalion
2nd Indian AA Bde

Defending units:
Guards Tank Division
33rd Division
9th Division
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /2
28th Army
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

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RE: The Empire Strikes Back! - 7/10/2011 7:41:56 PM   
d0mbo

 

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Status: offline 		Well he trashed a full division in AV on that assault. A few more of those and yer golden :) Keep it up!


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