Joel Billings
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Yes they are different, and campaigns and scenarios have completely different victory determination systems:
24.1.2. AUTOMATIC AND POINT VALUE VICTORY CONDITIONS
The game will end in an automatic victory either when Germany surrenders (Soviet victory)
or when the Axis controls sufficient points to meet the particular campaign scenario decisive
Axis victory condition.
Germany will surrender at any time that Berlin has been captured and the Axis player controls
less than 40 points of cities and urban hexes.
If neither player wins an automatic victory (Decisive, Major or Minor for the Soviet player;
Decisive for the Axis player) by the first turn in October 1945, the winner is determined by the
number of points controlled by the Axis player.
Victory levels for the 1941-45 and 1942-45 campaign scenarios:
Decisive Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders in 1944 or earlier.
Major Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 1/1/45 and 5/31/45.
Minor Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 6/30/45 and 9/30/45.
Draw - Germany does not surrender by 10/01/45 and the Axis player has less than 142 points.
Minor Axis Victory - The Axis controls 142-199 points at the end of the game.
Major Axis Victory - The Axis controls 200-289 points at the end of the game.
Decisive Axis Victory - At any time the Axis controls 290 points.
Victory levels for the 1943-45 campaign scenario:
Decisive Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders in 1944 or earlier.
Major Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 1/1/45 and 5/31/45.
Minor Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 6/30/45 and 9/30/45.
Draw - Germany does not surrender by 10/01/45 and the Axis player has less than 75 points.
Minor Axis Victory - The Axis controls 75-149 points at the end of the game.
Major Axis Victory - The Axis controls 150-249 points at the end of the game.
Decisive Axis Victory - At any time the Axis controls 250 points.
Victory levels for the 1944-45 campaign scenario:
Decisive Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders in 1944 or earlier.
Major Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 1/1/45 and 5/31/45.
Minor Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 6/30/45 and 9/30/45.
Draw - Germany does not surrender by 10/01/45 and the Axis player has less than 40 points.
Minor Axis Victory - The Axis controls 40-99 points at the end of the game.
Major Axis Victory - The Axis controls 100-199 points at the end of the game.
Decisive Axis Victory - At any time the Axis controls 200 points.
24.2. NON-CAMPAIGN SCENARIO VICTORY CONDITIONS
Victory conditions for non-campaign scenarios are based on control of victory locations,
usually specific town, city or urban hexes for each side, and cumulative losses in men, guns,
AFVs and aircraft. Victory points for control of victory locations are awarded each player-turn
and there is also a separate victory point award for controlling victory locations at the end of
the scenario. Victory locations can be applicable to both sides or be specific to one side only.
Victory point locations can be displayed by selecting the Toggle Victory Locations button in
the map information menu tab (5.1.2.1). Red flags are Soviet VP locations, black flags are
Axis VP locations, and black and red flags are VP locations for both sides. Losses are based
on the number of men, guns, AFV or aircraft that must be destroyed for the opposing side to
gain one victory point. This base number for losses can be further modified for each side by
a certain percentage. For example, the scenario may be set up so that each player will “earn”
1 VP for each 1000 men lost by the other player, but if the Soviet player has a twenty percent
modifier, the Axis will not gain a victory point until 5000 men have been lost. Victory levels for
non-campaign scenarios are based on the ratio of the side with the most points to the side
with the least points. This ratio is shown on the screen along with either an Axis or Soviet VP
Advantage and the number (to one decimal place) or “No significant VP advantage””if the ratio
is under 1.1.
Victory levels are as follows:
Decisive Victory - ratio greater than or equal to 5.0
Major Victory - ratio less than 5.0 but greater than or equal to 2.0
Minor Victory - ratio less than 2.0 but greater than or equal to 1.1
Draw - ratio less than 1.1
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