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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 2:23:36 AM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		GJ, your wild mood swings are the norm for a relatively new player. You're way too far down on yourself. I think you're doing pretty well.

How is rader going to suddenly reclaim PM? Do you know how long it will take him to organize ships and men? Do you think he has three divisions hanging around given what's in India? And if he does manage to pull things together over the next four to six weeks, you'll have opportunities to either take countermeasures or to prepare the next Allied operation somewhere far away.

The losd of good APAs is significant but not crippling. The Allies can use xAP and xAK to successfully invade, although you've got to tweak your arrangements and expectations a bit.

You've preserved your carrier fleets, which is unprecedented for a newb. Even without carriers, the Allies can prevail, but with them it's a whole different ballgame.

You have to prepare new amphibious operations to be ready in four to six weeks. If rader remains fixated on PM for that interval, you'll be fairly free to strike (and can probably use some or all over your carriers). If rader sends the KB elsewhere, be prepared with minesweepers and fast transport and low-value small transports to tote supply to PM. If you think he's diverting the KB to some distant area, you can use your carriers to provide cap to a key supply run to PM.

There are lots of options here, so remain flexible and don't lose your cool by becoming despondent (or the opposite when things go well).

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 3:16:55 AM   
crsutton


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Status: offline 		Well, don't take it to heart. You are playing a first rate player in a scenario that gives him every possible advantage. Scen #2 is tough for even a skilled Allied player because most of the benefits to the Japanese player are "front-loaded." That is, he gets a lot of the advantages at the beginning of the game while the Allied are very weak and gets no help at all. It is a dangerous scenario for the first year of the war because if the Japanese player builds up a little momentum, he can simply "run the table" on the Allied player.

One thing you will have to bear in mind for all future operations. Rader can produce a monumental number of airplanes in this scenario. Believe me as I have seen Viperpol do it in our game. I know nothing about his skills but can almost assure you from what I have seen here that he knows how to get the most out of his production. It is obvious to me because he showed little concern about taking massive aircraft losses in India. You will see an endless number of planes and you will see his best planes a lot earlier than you would normally expect. Every operation that you undertake will be in the face of strong Japanese air.

Best to make your plans with that in mind.

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 3:38:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, my fellow newbie friend, I think you have snatched the initiative away from Rader. The war no longer belongs to him. You took that away at Karachi. Now, you have opened another front on the other side of the map at PM drawing his attention there. And with sufficient planning, you should be able to land another blow elsewhere to throw Rader further off his game. Holding PM is less important than keeping Rader off balance.

CR's advise sounds right to me. Don't over react to the losses that Rader's early strengths can inflict. Stay cool. Every week you delay Rader's advance is a win in your column. Taking PM, although it cost you, hurt Rader's time line even more. That was, IMO, a very nice move. Me thinks you will become one hell of a player.

(Damn, the JFB in me just kicked me in the butt!)

Regards, Paul


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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 11:03:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		How are you Liberator pools? 4 squadrons of Lib's going in at 10k feet can close an airfield in two days, and those guys can take on quite a few fighters without too much problem if the crew are up to the task. Also keep in mind that most of the Japanese AA is located in India, so flying lower should not be too dangerous elsewhere.

But keep up the good work!

Terje

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 1:53:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok...another bad bad turn...

The KB stayed there and pounded what was left of my invasion fleet at Cairns and Townsville. My fighters didn't achieve much, losing 30 planes trying to defend against the KB's strikes and only killing 35 of her own...at the same time sweeps from Lae and Buna keeps on destroying my ability to defend those two location....the results of this campaign were horrible...

My Liberator pool is empty cause i'm using them in India and i badly need those guys there to keep him at bay from advancing towards Hyderabad...my P40K pool is empty and so the P-39 one...not to say about the british pools....

The only good result of the day was a bomb skipped from Cooktown based Hudsons against an AO that was coming along with the replenishment TFs to feed the KB...my subs near Mylne bay, as usually, scored 4 dude torps....

I'm trying to cool down now....and to analyze the overall strategic situation properly...but i tell you that it's not easy...not easy at all....Intel says more divisions and regiments are moving towards Rabaul...i think i the next 3/4 months this area will be full of jap divisions guarding every single importa nt base...damned that time i thought i could go on the offensive!!!...

Sorry if the last replies of mine were not as much descriptive and only composed of moanings and weepings...promise i'll change this mood as soon as i can!


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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 1:59:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is no "damned that time i thought i could go on the offensive!!!... " ...well you need to get your offensive started before the japanese arrive from India.

Accept some heavy losses to gain strategical key bases and start showing him back.

Very simple and needs to get done despite potential heavy losses.

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 2:00:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh.. and yes japanese will have "twice" the number of aircraft than you will at this point.

This is the fantasy part of things in AE.. but you must grind them.

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 2:02:05 PM   
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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 5:36:32 PM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		RAder was very kind and gentle in his last email. He feels my pain and tried to back me up with some nice words...

However guys, i won't sit on my thumbs waiting for 1944 before doing anything. This is a game first of all and i see no fun for neither of the opponents if the game is simply to remain covered untill you get a steamroller.

Rader must do some kind of mistakes sooner or later...he must be unlucky at some point...and i'll do my best trying to provoke those moments...so i'll keep on fighting and i won't just defend. If this will lead me to a final defeat...well, i will have deserved it and it's ok with me.

I'll do my best to save PM now, and i'll do my best to advance in the SOlomons. A Tarawa Invasion is already scheldued as soon as Saratoga comes back from yards and the Indian Counteroffensive is only few months away.

After all...we just wanna have fun, aren't we?! So let's attack




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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:18:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another turn....Dec 10,11 1942

The KB, out of fuel and sorties, moved back to Rabaul...my CVs were in a good position to ambush them while refueling if only they stayed there pounding Cairns one more turn.... I was in the mood to risk my 6 operative CVs in a all in all battle near the coast of Oz, while the KB was with fatigued crews, low and fuel and low on sorties...but it took me too much to get into position (my CVs were at Suva and i was only managed to get 3 hexes SW of Lunga when he decided to move back) and the chance vanished...obviously i won't push any forward and won't risk my CVs in a battle where the odds aren't at least even (and that was the case imho).

The good news is that Kaga got a fish from a sub near Milne bay (one other torp hit but was dude)...nothing too serious but she'll stay away from the front for some time...

The bad news is that we tried to bomb Jodpur with 4Es and we lost many of them...don't have the turn yet but i think more than 20 went down...at least he knows he cannot think to leave India completely undefended...

Ok, now it's time to reorganize and to think about 1943...which is right behind the corner!


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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:24:16 PM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		Sub attack near Deboyne Islands  at 102,136

Japanese Ships
     CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1
     BB Kirishima
     BB Hiei
     BB Haruna
     DD Hatsushima
     DD Myojinami
     DD Kosugiri
     DD Suresushio
     DD Fubuki

Allied Ships
     SS Tuna



SS Tuna launches 6 torpedoes at CV Kaga
Tuna diving deep ....
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kosugiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suresushio attacking submerged sub ....
DD Suresushio loses contact with SS Tuna
DD Fubuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Myojinami attacking submerged sub ....
SS Tuna eludes DD Myojinami by diving deep
SS Tuna eludes DD Myojinami by diving deep
SS Tuna eludes DD Myojinami by diving deep
DD Kosugiri fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Suresushio fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:28:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why wait for Saratoga?  If the KB remains around the Solomons, you can handle Tarawa with less than the full compliment of carriers.  You might consider offloading some of the dive bombers and replacing them with extra fighters.  If, on the other hand, you don't know where the KB is, then you probably don't want to proceed.  So keep the enemy focused on the Coral Sea and Solmons region.  Then you'll have a pretty easy time in the Gilberts.

Is Merauke on New Guinea's south coast held by you or rader?  That's a great base for the Allies.

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:29:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		and here you can see how much i've lost during the PM operation....




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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:30:48 PM   
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You might need to send your sub skippers to a dude ranch for some training.  There's a bunch o' them in Colorado, Wyoming and Montana, boy howdy!


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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:33:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Why wait for Saratoga?  If the KB remains around the Solomons, you can handle Tarawa with less than the full compliment of carriers.  You might consider offloading some of the dive bombers and replacing them with extra fighters.  If, on the other hand, you don't know where the KB is, then you probably don't want to proceed.  So keep the enemy focused on the Coral Sea and Solmons region.  Then you'll have a pretty easy time in the Gilberts.

Is Merauke on New Guinea's south coast held by you or rader?  That's a great base for the Allies.


cause i wanna use only the Saratoga! i wanna keep my CVs more or less visible, well behind the screen of Lunga - mind you -, so safe enough...but if they stay there Rader probably won't keep much attention to the Gilberts...and yes, i wanna have 90 fighters on Saratoga...let's see what i can do...maybe a couple of CVEs will support her...could be done i think...

Merauke?...should be jap controlled but empty as far as i can tell...well...now i need to focus on PM...don't have means to open another front so far away...the japs are building up Bouganville fast and i need to start to worry about a Lunga counterinvasion...


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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:36:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

"...(one other torp hit but was dude)"



You might need to send your sub skippers to a dude ranch for some training.  There's a bunch o' them in Colorado, Wyoming and Montana, boy howdy!




i just googled it....LOL....what's the correct expression???

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:39:29 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		If Merauke is vacant, you need to look at it very carefully.  Look at the airfield potential.  Imagine how far patrols, recon, and 4EB can reach from there.  It also guards the Torres Straight.

You might organize a little amphibious assault team - a few Aussie units and some dedicated ships - and park them somewhere relatively safe like Brisbane or Rockhampton (or Tonwsville once the KB vacates) - in order to spring on Merauke should the opportunity arise.

And watch out for your carriers.  A clever Jap player who keeps seeing carriers in one particular theater over a long time is going to:  (1) devise an ambush plan that will end up wrecking the Allied carriers, and (2) come up with ways to take advantage of carrier absence elsewhre.  Keep those babies hidden as often as possible, unless you're employing them in such a way that the pluses of visibility outweight the minuses.

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:41:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		dud = defective (IE, a defective torpedo that doesn't detonate)

"dude" = American slang for a new cowboy or a city slicker trying to act like he's a real cowboy.  So, dude can be fairly perjorative.  However, it's common for American males to refer to other males as "dude" in a friendly way, as in, "Hey, dude, did you see that chick with the great legs?"

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 6:53:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

dud = defective (IE, a defective torpedo that doesn't detonate)

"dude" = American slang for a new cowboy or a city slicker trying to act like he's a real cowboy.  So, dude can be fairly perjorative.  However, it's common for American males to refer to other males as "dude" in a friendly way, as in, "Hey, dude, did you see that chick with the great legs?"


Dud!!...yup...that was what i wanted to say!! :-)

Thanks!

dude it's like "beavis and butthead"

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RE: India is doomed - 7/15/2011 8:17:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		still enjoying the AAR, keep it up!

When the enemy has his CV's being such a thorn in your side perhaps it's time to try for an "exchange" You're pretty close to even in strength now right? If you lose worse-than-even you still get way more reinforcements soon. So maybe give Halsey the reins, 7 or 8 single CV TF with a BB in each to limit them to a 6 speed and reduce the "react" randomness (and act as a TT sponge) with a few CAs and DDs too. All set to follow Halsey, everybody on react 6, all strike aircraft limited to "within normal range", 30% cap and 70% escort on the fighters same range as strike aircraft, all at dive bombing altitude. If you lose the "mano a mano" exchange, you at least know you did everything you could. And you might be surprised at how effective the strike is. Just try to stay on at least "neutral ground" to stop him adding netty attacks. And if you have a supply convoy ready to go into PM, worst case is they end up as bait for the KB. I know, easier said than done....

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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 12:46:18 AM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		Well guys i was in fact looking for a kamikaze opportunity...all my fighters to escort (0% CAP), with the enemy CVs replenishing and putting my CVs between Mylne bay and his CVs' position (they should have been close to Cairns, pounding the base....i would have been close enough to be sure to strike...

Well...anyway...it never happened so let's pass over...

The day was hard for my 4Es...lost 50 of them, killing only 90 planes on the ground...flak and CAP over Jodpur are still very intense!
However it's confirmed: the bigger enemy units are retiring from Multan (already 50 of them abbandon the place)...so he's moving back...en masse...he still has however the ability to stop my movements just using his bombers so i cannot really turn to offensive...(if you look at the road map of india you'll clearly see why)...but i want to be ready to movre as soon as i can!...so maybe we'll advance even before the Med opens (i'm pretty sure Rader will be gone for that time, leaving back only base forces and planes!)

This week end i'll have some time to get back on track with this AAR (more screenshots and more aftermaths)...

Thanks for supporting me despite the terrible show i'm offering you


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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 1:19:38 AM   
pws1225

 

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


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Thanks for supporting me despite the terrible show i'm offering you


Bullshit (no offense Moose). You're the best show going. We're all pulling for you. And by the way, maybe you should change the name of your AAR. India doesn't look so doomed to me.

Regards, Paul

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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 1:38:32 AM   
cmdrsam

 

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Status: offline 		I'm gonna throw my two cents out. So I guess take it with a grain of salt as I am no master tactition or master of this game. Currently in my first PBEM game as well and doing all I can do to give my opponet fits. The way I see it is this. You held tough. And you stopped a major Japanese advance. And it was a truely bloody campaign. For both sides. But you finally stopped the advance. But there is still more than enough fight in the beast. You won Sharpsburg/Gettysburg. The reason I named those two as I see perhaps one more major attempt at an offense from you opponent. And guess what? You will have the opportunity to beat him again. Losses happen, yes even after we plan everything we can, we are still going to get caught with our pants down from time to time. Guess what? Keep fighting on. Your doing better than you think you are. And you have some major players here telling you this. Dont let it go to your head as you still have alot of war left to fight. But you are doing alot better than I would say alot of us could. So chin up, button up, and continue your campaign.

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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 9:32:08 AM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		I think that from an objective point of view the allies in this game aren't doing well guys. We lost nearly 2 continents (China and India) and we weren't able to defeat Japan in any major engagement so far...and 1 full year of war has passed!!
The only true victory is that one, lost in the fog of times, near Tarakan in dec 1941 when we sunk with force Z a full invasion force...but that's all!!

Anyway, we're still fighting!

Decemeber 12, 13 1942

Rader is preparing what seems to be a major operation against PM.
He transported several units at Buna and they seem to be marching towards the Owen Stanley mountains...
The KB is in an appartent striking position, along with a strong SCTF based at Torobika.
Now we can fully see the air power he brought here...(see map)...nearly 1000 fighters plus the KB...not bad uh!?

Today he started to test the PM defences. We were able yesterday to sneak at PM, during a bad weather turn, 5 fighters units (the same badly battered that fought bravely but with no hopes the KB at Cairns). They are all australian (except for what was left of the marine wildcats group that was aboard of the L.I. CVE).
Japan came with a sweep followed by a 40 escorted helens strike from Rabaul...and WE DID FOUGHT THEM BACK!!.
Our Aus pilots are top notch! They are all well above the average and they will soon compete with those british heroes that are defending Karachi!

This allowed me to send supplies by air transports to PM for 4 days in a row...not much but it's already something...

We're placing mines at Lunga and Tulagi and those bases are getting a constant (even if little) flow of supplies and men. Lunga has already 5 forts, Tulagi and Tessafaronga 4...not bad!

At Karachi the usual sweep missions by 350 Tojos...we're obtaining a constant 2-1 odd in terms of kills...but as Rader just told me, he can easily sustain 3-1 in my favour without many problems.... However the battle for India is clearly won. Multan is being evacuated by his main units, leaving behind only Eng, base forces, AAs and some Inf units (just enough to defend the base). So we now have to think about how to get out of the corner!

What else?...well, some screenshots and maps...




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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 9:32:51 AM   
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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 10:28:25 AM   
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my experience as Japan suggests me that if Reader has all these fighters around Rabaul it means that he is shifting planes from India. It is true that in Scenario 2 he can build an endless number of planes but the number of airgroups that can accept them is still somewhat limited. I don't have the exact figures at hand but I think that in scenario 2 there are around 6 or 7 more airgrops than Scenario 1. Even with buying out all the resctricted sentais from 2 Air Division and China Expeditionary Force there is no way that he can have all these planes active on both fronts.

Remember that Zeros and Oscar have quite a long range and it is possible to move them across vast distances in a very short time.

P.S. the above mentioned is not relevant if he has used his biggest CV to resize all the carrier capable navy Fighter groups to size 81 (using Akagi). You can easily check that if you see large numbers of Zero engaged in combat with only one sentai involved in the combat report.


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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 2:02:00 PM   
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Grey Joy,

my experience as Japan suggests me that if Reader has all these fighters around Rabaul it means that he is shifting planes from India. It is true that in Scenario 2 he can build an endless number of planes but the number of airgroups that can accept them is still somewhat limited. I don't have the exact figures at hand but I think that in scenario 2 there are around 6 or 7 more airgrops than Scenario 1. Even with buying out all the resctricted sentais from 2 Air Division and China Expeditionary Force there is no way that he can have all these planes active on both fronts.

Remember that Zeros and Oscar have quite a long range and it is possible to move them across vast distances in a very short time.

P.S. the above mentioned is not relevant if he has used his biggest CV to resize all the carrier capable navy Fighter groups to size 81 (using Akagi). You can easily check that if you see large numbers of Zero engaged in combat with only one sentai involved in the combat report.




Hi mate,

i can tell u for sure that Rader still has at least 900 fighters in India (at least 360 Tojos) and nearly 5/600 more bombers....so that means that he has at least 3000 active planes between the two main theatres...among which, most of them, are last generation fighters.

I've done everything i could to minimize the effetcs of the next KB strike. I'll keep my CVs between Lungaville and Suva...too distant for a coup de main of the KB but close enough to be ready to exploit any error of his (you never know...maybe i'll get lucky sometimes ).

I do think his next target will be PM against which he'll do the main effort...but it could be that he'll come come Lunga again with one of his typical raids...I'll send a CL+DDs TF in order to tangle with Tanaka's TF which, i'm pretty sure, will come to engage my transports at Lunga...sooner or later these damned american crews will learn how to fight the japs in night battles eh!?!?! And anyway there seems to be no other way to train them rather than sending them to battle!

The Tarawa force is slowly taking shape again... think i'll use a Regiment, a Marine CD unit, a Marine Raiders unit, 2 base forces and 4 Seabees, plus 2 AA units. Targets will be Tarawa and Abenama. The operation will take place when the Saratoga will be operative again and will be put in place only if we'll be able to keep the KB's attention in the Solomons/NG area...






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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 3:39:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

We lost nearly 2 continents (China and India) and we weren't able to defeat Japan in any major engagement so far...and 1 full year of war has passed!!



Now you just know that Canoerebel is going to prosecute that...

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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 3:42:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

We lost nearly 2 continents (China and India) and we weren't able to defeat Japan in any major engagement so far...and 1 full year of war has passed!!



Now you just know that Canoerebel is going to prosecute that...


ROLF - AWESOME -

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RE: India is doomed - 7/16/2011 3:50:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		you have a couple of transport subs that might help supply PM I think? They don't carry much but it's a short round trip.

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