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Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 3:28:12 PM

Chris21wen

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I'm unable to fully rearm a CV TF in Darwin (port 6). The only thing in the TF affected is the torpedoes of VT-1 (18 a/c) which on an Essex class short hull. There is no problem with the other CVs in the TF or for that matter the CVs in another TF based at Darwin.

The only HQ in Dawrin is the 10 Grp RAAF with 100 Torp support but if it was this it would affect all CV. Any suggestions please.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 3:46:11 PM

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If all of the ships refueled and rearmed at the same time you might have just run out of "points" and the ship will rearm the next day. I have had that happen usually with refueling if too many ships are looking for fuel in the same turn at the same port. I have had warships pull into smaller ports and not all of them would rearm on the first turn in. On the second turn all would be well.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:01:05 PM

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If all of the ships refueled and rearmed at the same time you might have just run out of "points" and the ship will rearm the next day. I have had that happen usually with refueling if too many ships are looking for fuel in the same turn at the same port. I have had warships pull into smaller ports and not all of them would rearm on the first turn in. On the second turn all would be well.

That's what I thought initially. This is the second turn I've tried, the 1st I got a message along the lines of 'you have run out of ops points at Darwin'. 2nd turn I'm getting a different mesaage 'Unable to fully rearm TF'.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:05:13 PM

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The amount of supply in the port?

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:10:40 PM

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The amount of supply in the port?

Nope, nor damage.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:17:44 PM

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Could the message relate to insufficient fuel?
The other carriers replenished torpedoes?

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:25:27 PM

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Why haven't you maxed out the size of that port? And stocked it with an AE and AD?

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:43:20 PM

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Why haven't you maxed out the size of that port? And stocked it with an AE and AD?

It is maxed out at 6 but no AD or AE yet as up to 15-20 turns ago it was not a safe enough port to use for anything big, being in range of a number of Betties.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:44:01 PM

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" 'Unable to fully rearm TF'."

That usually indicates to me that the TF has devices too large to re-arm at the port size I am at ...

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:53:49 PM

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I thougth that as well but the only thing not fully armed is the torps for the VT Sqn. Other VT sqn at the base had no problems.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 4:55:33 PM

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Could the message relate to insufficient fuel?
The other carriers replenished torpedoes?

Not that either. I created a single CV TF docked it disbanded every thing else and it still would not fully rearm

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 5:28:55 PM

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The manual states you need 160 Naval Support in a size 6 Port to reload Torpedo Sorties. It would make sense if your other CVs were unable to reload. Right now I have no idea what to try.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 9:30:30 PM

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Are you sure your other carriers actually needed torps? Could be they didnt have a problem because they didnt need it.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/17/2011 10:54:21 PM

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The manual states you need 160 Naval Support in a size 6 Port to reload Torpedo Sorties. It would make sense if your other CVs were unable to reload. Right now I have no idea what to try.

There's only 100 naval support at the base. I missed that in the manual I assumed an HQ with 100 torpedo ordanace could automatically load torps. Reading between the lines so to speak, Torp Ordanance is the number available at the port while Naval support lets you load the ships.

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Are you sure your other carriers actually needed torps? Could be they didnt have a problem because they didnt need it.

Having thought about it, no I'm not. I'll move some more in.

Thanks guys I'll post the result.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/18/2011 5:55:22 AM

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Assuming you dont have the Mk 18 yet, I suspect you have a "Torpedo Juice" syndicate aboard Yorktown.

Check with the ship's food officer (whatever that position is called) and see if bread has gone missing,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_juice

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/18/2011 7:58:07 AM

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The manual states you need 160 Naval Support in a size 6 Port to reload Torpedo Sorties. It would make sense if your other CVs were unable to reload. Right now I have no idea what to try.

There's only 100 naval support at the base. I missed that in the manual I assumed an HQ with 100 torpedo ordanace could automatically load torps. Reading between the lines so to speak, Torp Ordanance is the number available at the port while Naval support lets you load the ships.

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ORIGINAL: CV 2

Are you sure your other carriers actually needed torps? Could be they didnt have a problem because they didnt need it.

Having thought about it, no I'm not. I'll move some more in.

Thanks guys I'll post the result.

The Torpedo supply in air hq is for arming offensive strikes of the land-based aircraft, not for reloading onto ships. Ship loading is different and relies on port size, supply and rearm points. There is a table of the rearm points in appendix of manual. section 20.1.2.2

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/18/2011 1:03:11 PM

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The Torpedo supply in air hq is for arming offensive strikes of the land-based aircraft, not for reloading onto ships. Ship loading is different and relies on port size, supply and rearm points. There is a table of the rearm points in appendix of manual. section 20.1.2.2

That clarifies that I was a little confused, thanks.

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RE: Unable to fully rearm TF - 7/18/2011 7:49:26 PM

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And,somebody mentioned ADs in the port. ADs are for DD support and will rearm DD torpedoes but will not rearm torpedoes for carrier air groups.

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