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Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 5:45:17 PM

Scotters1

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I'm the Russians versus a hard AI. I have lost Smolensk, all my lines keep getting cut up like a knife though butter, and my secondary lines become front lines before I can dig in. This is my first campaign, and I'm in trouble, but having fun.

Iv'e been building construction units only, and have put good generals in charge of Stavka and the main fronts. All my armies have 3 constructin units, and I'm trying to add more to the front HQs.

Ive kept for the airforce in reserve till now. I plan on throwing everything in this turn, and using my ap points to convert obsolute planes to better planes.

If someone tells me how to do a screen shot, I will include one in my next post.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 5:53:01 PM

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hit "alt" + "print screen"
open MS Paint or the like
paste picture
save
embed in post

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 6:16:37 PM

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Here is the picture.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 6:34:32 PM

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Balou forgot step 1. Move the cursor to someplace where it will not generate a popup.

Over the jump map or between the buttons in the top toolbar are good places.

Edit: Your lines don't look too bad though, unless something horrible is hiding under the popup...

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 6:36:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Scotters1976

I'm the Russians versus a hard AI. I have lost Smolensk, all my lines keep getting cut up like a knife though butter, and my secondary lines become front lines before I can dig in. This is my first campaign, and I'm in trouble, but having fun.

Iv'e been building construction units only, and have put good generals in charge of Stavka and the main fronts. All my armies have 3 constructin units, and I'm trying to add more to the front HQs.

Ive kept for the airforce in reserve till now. I plan on throwing everything in this turn, and using my ap points to convert obsolute planes to better planes.

If someone tells me how to do a screen shot, I will include one in my next post.

It's interesting to compare your Russian game vs my Axis game. It is my first game of WitE as well. I am playing on Normal, as I hear the Soviets are quite formidible against a human. I am on turn 7. So very comparable. I have units adjecent Smolensk, and 2 hexes from Leningrad. I have taken Kiev. So, I would say you are doing okay. When I play the Soviets, I am going to need to know the "what and when" to build - that seems very ciritcal and I must admit building nothing by construction units totally suprises me.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 6:40:44 PM

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When playing human vs human, Smolensk usually falls around turn 6, so I would actually say you are doing ok.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 6:42:27 PM

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Here is a better picture.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 6:45:53 PM

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No need to panic! That is where the Germans usually are, if not even further on. Read some AARs and you will get a feel for where the front usually is.

A tip: Turn on hex control and fortification if relevant when doing screenshots, as that will help to interpret what is going on.

Edit: Duh! Forts are on.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 7:19:35 PM

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Guys, thanks for your support. One more question.

In the Leningrad area, do I need to have every hex covered next to the Finland no move line, or can I go every other hex?

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/1/2011 7:45:43 PM

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Every hex must be occupied by a unit, otherwise they will ooze through. SEC regiments are good for this, or forts if you can spare the APs.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/2/2011 12:26:44 AM

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Playing on hard does give the Germans some superman ability to rough you up.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/2/2011 1:17:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: Scotters1976

Here is the picture.

That's what I would call a bikini screenshot, hiding the interesting parts.

You're not doing bad at all, as Tarhunnas and other posters have remarked. How are your losses (destroyed units) looking like?

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/2/2011 2:33:02 AM

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Don't stack your units. Spread them out.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/2/2011 3:00:17 AM

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I don't know if the AI is smart enough to take advantage of it, but against a human, you will absolutely need to cover the 'backdoor' to Leningrad. This is the most southeastern hex north of the Neva river. It keeps the German from crossing and then taking the critical port to the NW of it. This is your only supply source if Leningrad is cut off from overland supply.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/2/2011 3:39:23 AM

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Would that be hex 83/ 16?

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ORIGINAL: Mynok

I don't know if the AI is smart enough to take advantage of it, but against a human, you will absolutely need to cover the 'backdoor' to Leningrad. This is the most southeastern hex north of the Neva river. It keeps the German from crossing and then taking the critical port to the NW of it. This is your only supply source if Leningrad is cut off from overland supply.

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RE: Help. Lost Smolensk on turn 6! - 8/2/2011 3:52:55 AM

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I am playing Barbarossa the 3rd time through after reading some AAR's as the Axis & I am trying to improve my ability to increase Soviet losses. I think the loss vs. push balance is the key. I haven't been paying much attention to Soviet losses before but I am learning I must pust as fast but become more deadly by efficient kesselschlacht, if I am making any sense. If the Axis has pushed far but your losses are low then it bodes better for you.

It is not that Somolensk has fallen but that Vitebsk & Mogilev have fallen too. the Axis push has been consolidated into a single axis & if this were a replay of the real campaign the shoulders would be ripe for a counterattack.

I would keep playing the first few turns over until you get more experience.

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ORIGINAL: Bletchley_Geek

That's what I would call a bikini screenshot, hiding the interesting parts.

You're not doing bad at all, as Tarhunnas and other posters have remarked. How are your losses (destroyed units) looking like?

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