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Why I can't build ships? - 8/11/2011 8:31:18 PM

Warspite3

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I have been playing ATG for several hours everyday since I bought it, this game has been a great time since I have been in recovery from my hernia surgery.

I have not had any problems with this game despite playing as much as I have been. Only thing I am wondering is why I am not able to build ships? I have captured some coastal cities but only pp, supply and resources can be built. I even captured a coastal capital, have not checked yet if that is letting me build ships. Oh I have not read the manual at all, just jumped right in. I also noticed it lists the aircraft factories as gun factories and the gun factories as aircraft factories. Anyway this has been one heck of a war, I will post an AAR when its over with a screenshot of this map, it was a random map but awesome how is was laid out!

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/11/2011 9:43:34 PM

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In captured cities you can only produce resources and political points, at least that was the case in my recent random game.

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/11/2011 10:40:38 PM

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Build a shipyard with engineers on a coastal hex. Captured cities are not able to build weaponry and "fighting stuff" in ATG.

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/11/2011 10:43:03 PM

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Try building a port. Might solve the troubles.

I know that captured cities can only produce PP and resources, but not manpower and weapons. But by building a port it might be possible. Don't have the game running at the moment, so I might be telling you a pack of lies - not intended.

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/12/2011 12:08:43 AM

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I have not used my engineers too much yet. The only thing I built with them so far is airfields, I never knew they can build shipyards. I kind of figured out it was different with captured cities. The game I am playing now is crazy! Some extremely intense battles. I thought I was going to win twice, then next thing I know I am backed against the wall struggling. I lost all of my original cities at this point even my capital so unless I can retake that or my other original cities, I am out of luck. I only have a really small group of engineers and can't build anymore right now

I imagine you need so many engineers to build certain things?

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/12/2011 12:58:12 AM

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I'd suggest starting another random game as without any original cities you have no supply. You are defeated. I'd also suggest reading Vic's ATG War College articles.

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/12/2011 2:37:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: Warspite3

I have not used my engineers too much yet. The only thing I built with them so far is airfields, I never knew they can build shipyards. I kind of figured out it was different with captured cities. The game I am playing now is crazy! Some extremely intense battles. I thought I was going to win twice, then next thing I know I am backed against the wall struggling. I lost all of my original cities at this point even my capital so unless I can retake that or my other original cities, I am out of luck. I only have a really small group of engineers and can't build anymore right now I imagine you need so many engineers to build certain things?

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/12/2011 4:36:30 AM

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I'd suggest starting another random game as without any original cities you have no supply. You are defeated. I'd also suggest reading Vic's ATG War College articles.

Oh no, I think I could be in trouble as I have not realized this. I lost my last original city about 20 turns prior to when I last posted on here. I just played about 30 more turns. I have a couple HQ's laying around that are packed full of supplies, my main one with just over 160,000 and another just over 10,000. Supplies are slowly going away and unless I can recapture a city I am doomed. I can NOT believe I am going to lose this game. I wish I could have video taped it all and posted it on youtube as this had to be one of the single closest games I had ever played against any AI. Not talking about just ATG, I am talking any game. I had some nail biters in the Civ series in the past and this one was right up there. I have found a lot has changed here in ATG compared to AT and for the better. For one thing the AI is a lot stronger now. Is it one of those that learns as you play? Reason I ask this is because I would be tearing it apart with certain things then eventually it would come back at me and counter really strong. Example and why I finally realize its over is because I had huge oil reserves and was bombing the hell out the AI units. This lasted about 15 turns then next thing I know the party was over. All of these fighters would swarm in and trash my unescorted bombers one after another. It got to the point where I was scared to launch an airstrike on anything. My airforce is now down to nearly nothing and land units are just closing in on me. I suppose the turning point was when they captured my capital and last couple cities. I may post an AAR up if anyone wants to see. This one is good as over so I guess I will find out the deal with the ships in my next game. I will fight on a little more just for the glory.

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/12/2011 9:40:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Warspite3

quote:

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I'd suggest starting another random game as without any original cities you have no supply. You are defeated. I'd also suggest reading Vic's ATG War College articles.

Oh no, I think I could be in trouble as I have not realized this. I lost my last original city about 20 turns prior to when I last posted on here. I just played about 30 more turns. I have a couple HQ's laying around that are packed full of supplies, my main one with just over 160,000 and another just over 10,000. Supplies are slowly going away and unless I can recapture a city I am doomed. I can NOT believe I am going to lose this game. I wish I could have video taped it all and posted it on youtube as this had to be one of the single closest games I had ever played against any AI. Not talking about just ATG, I am talking any game. I had some nail biters in the Civ series in the past and this one was right up there. I have found a lot has changed here in ATG compared to AT and for the better. For one thing the AI is a lot stronger now. Is it one of those that learns as you play? Reason I ask this is because I would be tearing it apart with certain things then eventually it would come back at me and counter really strong. Example and why I finally realize its over is because I had huge oil reserves and was bombing the hell out the AI units. This lasted about 15 turns then next thing I know the party was over. All of these fighters would swarm in and trash my unescorted bombers one after another. It got to the point where I was scared to launch an airstrike on anything. My airforce is now down to nearly nothing and land units are just closing in on me. I suppose the turning point was when they captured my capital and last couple cities. I may post an AAR up if anyone wants to see. This one is good as over so I guess I will find out the deal with the ships in my next game. I will fight on a little more just for the glory.

Hehe that was a good read

and it reflects my experience with ATG exactly, a darn good AI. Many random games I've played were like "conquer the world on a shoestring". You're short on oil, short on ore, short on tanks and troops, short on everything. The worst thing that can happen is a multi front war against the AI, that's just plain awful. There are many times when you think you've finally beaten one of the AI's, next thing you know it's back with a vengeance.

And please do post that AAR, it's always nice to see you're not the only one having trouble with an AI... LOL

I don't know how you played your game but if your HQ's were packed with supplies then you did something wrong, only produce what you need, plus something extra (for upgrading units, wintertime, etc.) The rest of the prod. capacity you can then use to build troops. Engineers are probably *the* most important unit in the game, they build roads, bridges, factories and airfields. I tend to have one or two per HQ, each 30-50 engineers in an unit.

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/12/2011 7:03:15 PM

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Warspite3 we would love an AAR. Then we can see into what difficulties you got yourself into and then if you want offer help.
As Josh pointed out HQ's sat around with tonnes of supply are not really good. Just think of the size of an army you could have built with those 160,000 supplies!!! You're not a quartermaster by trade are you?

But as in all games there are some basics to be learnt and mistakes to be made. Best to make them against an AI or friends.

Tis a shame you never made a video of your game, I would have liked to hear your comments as you opened the next turn to find the beaten enemy was even stronger.

Looking forward to the AAR.

Mat

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RE: Why I can't build ships? - 8/12/2011 10:38:29 PM

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quote:

Tis a shame you never made a video of your game, I would have liked to hear your comments as you opened the next turn to find the beaten enemy was even stronger.

Looking forward to the AAR.

I had no idea this would go down in my forever memories of a wargame or else you bet I would have video recorded the entire game. I am telling you it was priceless. Oh, and it gets even better! I am posting an AAR so if you guys want to check it out I think it will be worth the read.

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