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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 7/30/2011 3:19:40 PM   
floydg

 

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ORIGINAL: rjopel

I just upgraded my Java version and I get this error when I try and load tracker.


C:\Matrix Games\WITP Tracker with Mike>"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\jav
a.exe" -Xms1024m -Xmx1280m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
WitP Tracker AE tables loaded in 21 seconds
Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Matrix
Games\WITP Tracker with Mike\pwsdll.dll: Can't find dependent libraries
at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
at JNIpws.JNIpws.<clinit>(JNIpws.java:20)
at witptracker.SaveFileReader.ReadScenarioTurnNumber(SaveFileReader.java
:331)
at witptracker.GUIMain.ReadNewTurn(GUIMain.java:145)
at witptracker.GUIMain.actionPerformed(GUIMain.java:512)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(Unknown
Source)
at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown
Source)
at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown
Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue$2.run(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue$2.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown
Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)



Please see post 2658 above.

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 7/31/2011 4:39:03 PM   
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JAVA 7 seems to be incompatible with tracker. It crashes during initialization of data base (beta P6 save from right after starting scenario 1).

Problemsignatur:
Problemereignisname:    APPCRASH
Anwendungsname:    java.exe
Anwendungsversion:    7.0.0.147
Anwendungszeitstempel:    4e084e76
Fehlermodulname:    StackHash_9f7d
Fehlermodulversion:    6.1.7601.17514
Fehlermodulzeitstempel:    4ce7ba58
Ausnahmecode:    c0000374
Ausnahmeoffset:    000ce653
Betriebsystemversion:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Gebietsschema-ID:    3079
Zusatzinformation 1:    9f7d
Zusatzinformation 2:    9f7d13da78c525a72ddcc8a3b15b1256
Zusatzinformation 3:    b07c
Zusatzinformation 4:    b07c68746924e4f6141c17dad9bbf008


JAVA 6 is working.

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 7/31/2011 8:02:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Theages

JAVA 7 seems to be incompatible with tracker. It crashes during initialization of data base (beta P6 save from right after starting scenario 1).

Problemsignatur:
Problemereignisname:    APPCRASH
Anwendungsname:    java.exe
Anwendungsversion:    7.0.0.147
Anwendungszeitstempel:    4e084e76
Fehlermodulname:    StackHash_9f7d
Fehlermodulversion:    6.1.7601.17514
Fehlermodulzeitstempel:    4ce7ba58
Ausnahmecode:    c0000374
Ausnahmeoffset:    000ce653
Betriebsystemversion:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Gebietsschema-ID:    3079
Zusatzinformation 1:    9f7d
Zusatzinformation 2:    9f7d13da78c525a72ddcc8a3b15b1256
Zusatzinformation 3:    b07c
Zusatzinformation 4:    b07c68746924e4f6141c17dad9bbf008


JAVA 6 is working.



Java 7 has a nasty programming bug. See this story.


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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/1/2011 9:34:30 AM   
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hmm, Java 6.26 Win 7 64 bit here....updated ftom 6i to beta m4 - after 20 turns with m4 the turnsave files, one turn was invalid, then tracker never worked again. now, patched to beta p5 and deleted the whole tracker folder...and now i got the message that even "java" is unknown....hmm, sorry, I read the last 4 pages about dlls 2005 2008 2010 and so on... all I understand is "Bahnhof" which means nothing in german. 

If even "java" is unknown to a system where Java is installed  then I am relly happy to use Mac OS X for all the really importand stuff. God, I am happy that I really need Winmorone only for stupid computer games. M$ is just .





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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/1/2011 6:21:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf

hmm, Java 6.26 Win 7 64 bit here....updated ftom 6i to beta m4 - after 20 turns with m4 the turnsave files, one turn was invalid, then tracker never worked again. now, patched to beta p5 and deleted the whole tracker folder...and now i got the message that even "java" is unknown....hmm, sorry, I read the last 4 pages about dlls 2005 2008 2010 and so on... all I understand is "Bahnhof" which means nothing in german. 

If even "java" is unknown to a system where Java is installed  then I am relly happy to use Mac OS X for all the really importand stuff. God, I am happy that I really need Winmorone only for stupid computer games. M$ is just .


In your witptracker.bat the command line should read exactly as follows (assuming Java 6 x86 (required) is installed in default path):
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/2/2011 11:36:09 PM   
Tazo


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Hello,

I am coming bak to AE for a campaign after one year off, so the tracker is more than welcome.
But my almost never used windows 7 looks even more stupid than expected.

First on my win7 pc WitP AE simply don't launch. But on my Mac under mac OS X running win7 through the clever "parallel desktop" it works perfectly (windows 7 is quicker under parallel).
Second, and this is the point in this topic, when executing the previously mentionned command line the answer is unbelievable (both on pc's and Mac) :

"C:\Program" is not recognized as an internal command or program file

simply meaning that this stupid windows 7 is not able to deal with the blank space he creates himself in directory names instead of the careful "_".
Amazing, made by the emperors of stupidity.

How could I overcome this ?
Move the tracker inside the directory of java 6 ? ===> edit: this inelegant solution works well, great !!!

Java is well installed at the default path.

Thanks,
Tz

====> edit: well, with two screens on my macbook (giant for the game, 14' for the tracker) and a notebook to take notes and read posts / pdf rulebook, I can play now this great game again !

< Message edited by Tazo -- 8/3/2011 12:04:17 AM >


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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/3/2011 9:48:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tazo

"C:\Program" is not recognized as an internal command or program file

simply meaning that this stupid windows 7 is not able to deal with the blank space he creates himself in directory names instead of the careful "_".
Amazing, made by the emperors of stupidity.

How could I overcome this ?


The problem you describe is not a new feature of Windows 7. In fact, this problem first presented itself when 'Long File Names" was introduced into the MSDOS and Windows environment. I think at the time the current version of Windows may have been Windows 3.1 or Windows for Workgroups.

This is the content of fields in my desktop shortcut that demonstrates the solution to this kind of issue.

Target: "E:\Extended Disk\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific (Admirals Edition)\tools\witp Tracker\WitPTracker.bat"
Start In:"E:\Extended Disk\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific (Admirals Edition)\tools\witp Tracker"

In particular, take special note of the pair of " tokens.





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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/3/2011 1:41:47 PM   
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Version 1.18
When filtering Pilots by Location (group, reserve,etc), if I select Group, it is including TRACOM in the list.

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/3/2011 2:04:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelm

Version 1.18
When filtering Pilots by Location (group, reserve,etc), if I select Group, it is including TRACOM in the list.


Thanks, I'll take a look.

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/4/2011 3:48:33 PM   
Oliver Heindorf


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.post deleted. .userfailure. .still uncertain because tracker worked before.

< Message edited by Oliver Heindorf -- 8/5/2011 12:34:39 PM >


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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/5/2011 2:02:30 PM   
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I think something has been updated. My ongoing tracker will not work anymore. I am getting a Java runtime error.

This is the error header:

#
# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6d0b70d0, pid=2540, tid=2260
#
# JRE version: 6.0_26-b03
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.1-b02 mixed mode, sharing windows-x86 )
# Problematic frame:
# C [awt.dll+0xb70d0]

I also tried saving the tracker files to a directory and restarting my tracker with no success, fatal error.

It appears that it is only one game that has this problem, my second game does not. It is the turn where my opponent landed in New Zealand and activated the reinforcements. I can not use any save game file generated after that. Here is a screen shot of the errors I am getting.





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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/7/2011 2:06:25 PM   
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Further information on the above. After the New Zealand invasion convoy disbands from Cape Town, tracker will work. There must be something in the unit being the last unit in the data base. When I loaded the new turn I still got all of the insert errors listed above, but the turn did load. When I started a new database, I had no errors reported.

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/8/2011 2:36:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WLockard

Further information on the above. After the New Zealand invasion convoy disbands from Cape Town, tracker will work. There must be something in the unit being the last unit in the data base. When I loaded the new turn I still got all of the insert errors listed above, but the turn did load. When I started a new database, I had no errors reported.


Send me the witptracker.properties file, the before save turn and after turn to witptracker @ gmail.com and I'll take a look.

Floyd

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/8/2011 7:37:25 AM   
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I have some problems to get the tracker runnig. After setting the property file and starting the tracker I get this message and I have no idea what it is telling me or what I have done wrong.... :(





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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/8/2011 8:23:00 AM   
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I'd check that you've installed the program properly ... this message is telling me that you've not installed the C++ redistributables. There was also another update back in June iirc.

What version of AE are you running ? If it is the beta you'll need to copy the new pwsdll.dll into the tracker folder too ...



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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/8/2011 1:42:28 PM   
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Version 1106i is running, no beta patches. I´ve installed the latest updates for C++ (x86 and x64). Do I have to install all C++ Versions or is the latest enough? I´m using Win7 Home Premium 64bit.


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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/8/2011 2:58:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AbeSimpson

Version 1106i is running, no beta patches. I´ve installed the latest updates for C++ (x86 and x64). Do I have to install all C++ Versions or is the latest enough? I´m using Win7 Home Premium 64bit.


Abe -
The latest should be enough ... you didn't need to install the x64bit updates (and might want to uninstall them). The C++ redist can be fickle - uninstalling and reinstalling the 95/98 C++ has worked in the past.

Check you have pwsdll.dll in the tracker folder as well.

Make sure you're using Java 32 bit and not the latest one (7) which is buggy still. By changing your witptracker.bat file to point to the 32 bit Java executable (you need the quotes because of the space) - this varies on different machines so you'll need to check the path:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
pause

If all fails there is another solution ... try this first though ;-)
Cheers




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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/8/2011 9:56:15 PM   
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YOU ARE THE HERO OF THE DAY!!

It´s running!

Thanks a lot for your help.


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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/9/2011 1:39:32 AM   
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Just installed Windows 7 64 and would like to know if anyone has experienced problems running the Tracker under W7 64.

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RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/9/2011 1:48:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BigDuke66

Just installed Windows 7 64 and would like to know if anyone has experienced problems running the Tracker under W7 64.

Plenty of people have problems getting it right -> user error by misconfiguration are the primary reasons. Tracker does work with W7x64.

My advice:-
  • Use 32 bit Java
  • Use 32 bit C++ Redist (and updates)
  • Configure the batch file as per above
    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms384m -Xmx512m -jar "WitPTracker.jar"
    pause
  • Use the 32 bit command prompt if the batch won't run see
    http://sites.google.com/site/witptracker/support

    Good luck



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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/9/2011 2:08:28 PM   
    WLockard


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: floydg


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: WLockard

    Further information on the above. After the New Zealand invasion convoy disbands from Cape Town, tracker will work. There must be something in the unit being the last unit in the data base. When I loaded the new turn I still got all of the insert errors listed above, but the turn did load. When I started a new database, I had no errors reported.


    Send me the witptracker.properties file, the before save turn and after turn to witptracker @ gmail.com and I'll take a look.

    Floyd


    Files located and sent.

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/10/2011 3:40:21 PM   
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    I'd like to chime in here to say "thanks" to the devs. This is a really neat app.

    I had some "Null Pointer" and "Array Index OOB" errors thrown by Java when trying to use the Tracker and the latest Beta patch (P6, IIRC). However, as suggested in this thread, swapping out the pwsdll library in the Tracker folder for one copied from the "Beta2" folder fixed the issue.

    A small suggestion: Perhaps put this temporary fix in the first post of this thread? I reckon lots of people using the beta could have a had this issue too.

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/11/2011 10:44:53 PM   
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    I have a different issue.

    Execption in thread 'Main' java.long.NullPointerExecption
    at witptracker.engines.getEngines<engines.java.75>
    at witptracker.InMemoryDBLoadStartuptables<InMemoryDB.java.154>
    at witptracker.mainmain<Main.java.157>

    Any ideas? This is with 1108p7 beta

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/12/2011 3:38:58 AM   
    Graymane


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    This is a great tool! Do you guys have a published list of new features you are working on? Should we post in this thread to request new features?

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/12/2011 9:59:57 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Graymane

    This is a great tool! Do you guys have a published list of new features you are working on? Should we post in this thread to request new features?

    I think I can talk for both of us when I say that not much has been done toward the 1.9 release yet apart from some bug fixes. I implemented some changes for econ mods, did a little bit on the aircraft comparison screen to show device ratings.

    Anyway now is a good time to make some suggestions as I'm going to do some coding in the coming weeks so Post away ...

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/12/2011 10:02:19 AM   
    n01487477


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Numdydar

    I have a different issue.

    Execption in thread 'Main' java.long.NullPointerExecption
    at witptracker.engines.getEngines<engines.java.75>
    at witptracker.InMemoryDBLoadStartuptables<InMemoryDB.java.154>
    at witptracker.mainmain<Main.java.157>

    Any ideas? This is with 1108p7 beta


    Swap out the pwsdll library in the Tracker folder for one copied from the "Beta2" folder should fix the issue. Although you may have to delete the DB and restart afresh.



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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/12/2011 10:04:12 AM   
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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: NickWright

    I'd like to chime in here to say "thanks" to the devs. This is a really neat app.

    I had some "Null Pointer" and "Array Index OOB" errors thrown by Java when trying to use the Tracker and the latest Beta patch (P6, IIRC). However, as suggested in this thread, swapping out the pwsdll library in the Tracker folder for one copied from the "Beta2" folder fixed the issue.

    A small suggestion: Perhaps put this temporary fix in the first post of this thread? I reckon lots of people using the beta could have a had this issue too.


    Thanks Nick ... we (cough cough floyd) should really update the website.

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/12/2011 11:55:18 PM   
    Numdydar

     

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    That did the trick. Is that something we need to do whenever a new beta is released?

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/13/2011 4:46:02 AM   
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    It shouldn't be always required unless something changes that affects the DLL, but to be safe, copying it to tracker wont hurt.

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    RE: WitPTracker AE Release 1.8 Available! - 8/13/2011 11:29:21 AM   
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    I am sure this has been asked a lot of times but 90 pages is a looooong thread. Is Tracker 1.8 compatible with DBB?

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