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Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/17/2011 1:27:31 AM

zzodr

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Hey guys,

Was wondering whats the highest number of kills any of your fighter sqns have reached in a game.
Allied or Japanese, PBEM or vs AI.. doesn't matter.
To start off...mine is VF2 with 343 kills. September 1943.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/17/2011 5:00:24 AM

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I'm not at my game, but I expect you'll be seeing higher tallies posted here. Those six U.S. Army squadrons which enter Aden and/or Cape Town in 1942 generally get over 1000 kills each in a game vs. the AI. The RAF ones in that theater do well, too, but are handicapped by having only 16 aircraft vs. 25.

That said, 343 kills is pretty impressive for a USN carrier-based squadron in Sept. 1943.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/17/2011 5:32:23 AM

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Up to mid 44
A number of USAAF Sqns with 500+
Some RAF & RAAF Sqns with 300+
USN have around 100, part of my trial was hiding the CV umtil 1943, gives you a lot of poorly trained and experienced pilots!!

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/17/2011 11:45:06 AM

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I wonder what kill numbers Greyjoy has with his magic Spitfires?

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/17/2011 2:16:53 PM

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I have seen Japanese CV groups with 1000+ kills - was on a German forum....

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/17/2011 2:50:44 PM

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My 75th FS at Akyab has over 700 kills. The 74th and 76th both have near 600. All in Feb 1943. My lead aces have 40+ kills.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/17/2011 8:17:43 PM

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67 Squadron has been a big help in kicking a lot of gluteous maximus in this area.
This is as of 1 October 1942. The Japanese never got any further into Burma than Pegu, and we've pushed them back to Tavoy and into Thailand (and I'm not about to go there).

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/18/2011 1:01:34 AM

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Nice work Treetop. I think your 67Sqn deserves some R&R.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/18/2011 2:30:25 AM

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In my game vs the AI, 1stSq/AVG was withdrawn with 238 kills. Not the amazing numbers posted here but still not bad for less than seven months in the field

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/18/2011 3:35:40 AM

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quote:

Nice work Treetop. I think your 67Sqn deserves some R&R.

Thanks. Relief is on the way down from Calcutta, then 67Sqd. will get a nice 60 day vacation.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 4:41:29 AM

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My top IJNAF-April 1943 (PBEM, scenario 1)

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 4:42:29 AM

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Top IJAAF (PBEM, April 1943, scenario 1)

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 6:25:36 AM

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Chickenboy,

Looking at the numbers, even the best are struggling to break even.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 6:33:03 AM

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Yes. Well, I'm not sure if the ratio (breakeven) is the same, higher or lower in those units with fewer numbers of kills. In general, it is increasingly difficult to stay above breakeven for the war on the whole into May 1943 though...

I'm also not sure if these pilots are my 'best'. They've seen the most action and got the most kills though. For example, my KB groups have many fewer kills (but much better ratios). In this game, I've used IJAAF extensively to blunt the USAAF and USNAF, buttressed only where necessary with IJNAF fliers.

I tend to follow an unusual pilot rotation schemata as well. You'll rarely find uber aces in my squadrons, as I tend to rotate them into TRACOM when I can. We'll see if my mid-late war approaches carry the day.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 7:26:06 AM

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This is the best eating tooth in my arsenal in game against the AI. Americans have been shovelling wildcats from Deni to aid the success of the mighty 85th Sentai!

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 6:34:59 PM

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I just find it odd that with all of the hundreds of aircraft shot down by each of these squadrons...their experience levels are so low.
With the exception of No67 Sqn RAF, their experience levels looks about the same as they would start with...

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 7:37:16 PM

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Here's my best Sqn as of 15 April 43, the experience is a little decieving most of the pilots are at 85 to 92 with a couple of low experience pilots just having been allocated.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 7:49:14 PM

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Used to have one Zero group with 250 kills and about 50 A2A losses + 20-ish ops and 50 ground. B-17s were responsible for at least 45 of those A2A losses, all ground and probably half ops. But that was mid 42 only.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 9:21:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Big B

I just find it odd that with all of the hundreds of aircraft shot down by each of these squadrons...their experience levels are so low.
With the exception of No67 Sqn RAF, their experience levels looks about the same as they would start with...

Hi Big B,

I mentioned that I tend to rotate out Uber-good pilots to TRACOM and backfill with pilots from training. With that approach (many others use something similar), I would expect EXP per se to gravitate towards approximately 50, with the individual skill in the 70s.

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RE: Highest kill total for Squadron - 8/19/2011 10:16:23 PM

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That would explain some.
I also noted (particularly among the Japanese examples posted) - that given the organization size....when one looks over at the KIA/WIA/MIA numbers - many of these units have been wiped out many times over....not a way one would expect to build group experience level up, per say...

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Big B

I just find it odd that with all of the hundreds of aircraft shot down by each of these squadrons...their experience levels are so low.
With the exception of No67 Sqn RAF, their experience levels looks about the same as they would start with...

Hi Big B,

I mentioned that I tend to rotate out Uber-good pilots to TRACOM and backfill with pilots from training. With that approach (many others use something similar), I would expect EXP per se to gravitate towards approximately 50, with the individual skill in the 70s.