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RE: Next quiz - 7/13/2011 6:22:23 AM   
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I have a new question for you guys to ponder on as well as the previous questions.

Which warship am I?
1) I have a counter in MWIF.
2) During WWII a well known authour dedicated a book to my officers and crew.

Warspite1

HMS Penelope - HMS Pepperpot - one of my favourite cruisers!

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RE: Next quiz - 7/13/2011 9:59:39 PM   
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Clue no.5. Last clue.

Which warship am I?

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.

It seems it's one of the Monitors. Roberts? WiF has a Roberts II.
Warspite1

I'm not a monitor. I'm feeling generous so here is one final absolute giveaway clue.

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.
6. I was designed as a cruiser, but unlike my four sisters, was not completed as originally designed. The reason that "treaty" or "heavy" cruiser specification was set at the level it was at the Washington Treaty 1922, was due to the size of my sisters.
Warspite1

Well, I did say it was one for the grognards. The answer was HMS Vindictive. She began life during the First World War as a Hawkins-class cruiser with the name Cavendish (all ships of the class were named after Elizabethan naval heroes). However, she was completed as an aircraft carrier (albeit without a conventional flush deck), before returning to cruiser status during the twenties. Thereafter she spent time as a training ship and then a fleet repair ship.

In this latter configuration, she was deployed off Norway for that ill-fated operation and her six 4-inch HA guns were much used as the Royal Navy were constantly harried by the Luftwaffe.

USS Wyoming and USS Langley are available to the US player (assuming the US player wants to spend the build points to re-convert those ships to BB/CV - neither of which happened in real life). ADG could have done the same for HMS Vindictive.

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RE: Next quiz - 7/14/2011 12:00:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Clue no.5. Last clue.

Which warship am I?

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.

It seems it's one of the Monitors. Roberts? WiF has a Roberts II.
Warspite1

I'm not a monitor. I'm feeling generous so here is one final absolute giveaway clue.

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.
6. I was designed as a cruiser, but unlike my four sisters, was not completed as originally designed. The reason that "treaty" or "heavy" cruiser specification was set at the level it was at the Washington Treaty 1922, was due to the size of my sisters.
Warspite1

Well, I did say it was one for the grognards. The answer was HMS Vindictive. She began life during the First World War as a Hawkins-class cruiser with the name Cavendish (all ships of the class were named after Elizabethan naval heroes). However, she was completed as an aircraft carrier (albeit without a conventional flush deck), before returning to cruiser status during the twenties. Thereafter she spent time as a training ship and then a fleet repair ship.

In this latter configuration, she was deployed off Norway for that ill-fated operation and her six 4-inch HA guns were much used as the Royal Navy were constantly harried by the Luftwaffe.

USS Wyoming and USS Langley are available to the US player (assuming the US player wants to spend the build points to re-convert those ships to BB/CV - neither of which happened in real life). ADG could have done the same for HMS Vindictive.


I know there are no more unit changes to the game right now .. but maybe this should be added .. as she is clearly missing

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RE: Next quiz - 7/14/2011 7:29:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Clue no.5. Last clue.

Which warship am I?

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.

It seems it's one of the Monitors. Roberts? WiF has a Roberts II.
Warspite1

I'm not a monitor. I'm feeling generous so here is one final absolute giveaway clue.

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.
6. I was designed as a cruiser, but unlike my four sisters, was not completed as originally designed. The reason that "treaty" or "heavy" cruiser specification was set at the level it was at the Washington Treaty 1922, was due to the size of my sisters.
Warspite1

Well, I did say it was one for the grognards. The answer was HMS Vindictive. She began life during the First World War as a Hawkins-class cruiser with the name Cavendish (all ships of the class were named after Elizabethan naval heroes). However, she was completed as an aircraft carrier (albeit without a conventional flush deck), before returning to cruiser status during the twenties. Thereafter she spent time as a training ship and then a fleet repair ship.

In this latter configuration, she was deployed off Norway for that ill-fated operation and her six 4-inch HA guns were much used as the Royal Navy were constantly harried by the Luftwaffe.

USS Wyoming and USS Langley are available to the US player (assuming the US player wants to spend the build points to re-convert those ships to BB/CV - neither of which happened in real life). ADG could have done the same for HMS Vindictive.


I know there are no more unit changes to the game right now .. but maybe this should be added .. as she is clearly missing

Warspite1

There are a few anomalies like this - the RN Cruiser / Minelayers for example - maybe MWIF2 can add these "missing" vessels.

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RE: Next quiz - 7/15/2011 1:07:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Clue no.5. Last clue.

Which warship am I?

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.

It seems it's one of the Monitors. Roberts? WiF has a Roberts II.
Warspite1

I'm not a monitor. I'm feeling generous so here is one final absolute giveaway clue.

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.
6. I was designed as a cruiser, but unlike my four sisters, was not completed as originally designed. The reason that "treaty" or "heavy" cruiser specification was set at the level it was at the Washington Treaty 1922, was due to the size of my sisters.
Warspite1

Well, I did say it was one for the grognards. The answer was HMS Vindictive. She began life during the First World War as a Hawkins-class cruiser with the name Cavendish (all ships of the class were named after Elizabethan naval heroes). However, she was completed as an aircraft carrier (albeit without a conventional flush deck), before returning to cruiser status during the twenties. Thereafter she spent time as a training ship and then a fleet repair ship.

In this latter configuration, she was deployed off Norway for that ill-fated operation and her six 4-inch HA guns were much used as the Royal Navy were constantly harried by the Luftwaffe.

USS Wyoming and USS Langley are available to the US player (assuming the US player wants to spend the build points to re-convert those ships to BB/CV - neither of which happened in real life). ADG could have done the same for HMS Vindictive.


In Norway Fleet Repair Ship HMS Vindictive was used as a troopship. So it is in the game in abstract.


11/09/42 – 11/12/42 From Gibraltar to Oran, Algeria
Fleet Repair Ship HMS Vindictive
Destroyer Depot Ship HMS Hecla 11/12/42 Sunk by U-515
Destroyer HMS Marne (G 35) 11/12/42 U-515 causes extensive damage to stern and X-mount is totally disabled 11/13/42 towed by Tug HMS Salvonia and escorted by Corvette HMS Jonquil into Gibraltar
Destroyer HMS Venomous (D 75) 11/12/42 relived by Corvette HMS Jonquil to deliver 568 survivors from Destroyer Depot Ship HMS Hecla to Casablanca, French Morocco

Still working on Torch.



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RE: Next quiz - 7/15/2011 1:19:31 AM   
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What is a “HDML”?

What is a “MMS”?

What is a “Fast Patrol Boat”?


Extra credit: Name the British “Convoy Escort Vessel” with the Japanese name that was in Operation Torch.


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RE: Next quiz - 7/15/2011 3:17:45 AM   
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MMS = Magnetic Mine Sweeper ?

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RE: Next quiz - 7/15/2011 6:57:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Clue no.5. Last clue.

Which warship am I?

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.

It seems it's one of the Monitors. Roberts? WiF has a Roberts II.
Warspite1

I'm not a monitor. I'm feeling generous so here is one final absolute giveaway clue.

1. I do not have a counter in WIF or any of its add ons, however, you could easily make the case for including one (I am bigger than a destroyer).
2. If ADG did give me a counter, I would be likely to start 1939 scenarios in the construction pool; for the same reason as USS Wyoming. Alternatively I could start on map - but would have suitably reduced factors.....
3. During my life I changed not only my name (once) but also my ship type (a number of times).
4. I am a Royal Navy vessel.
5. I was used extensively off Narvik, Norway April - June 1940, after which I was largely used in backwater theatres. I survived the war, unlike one of my three original sisters (all of whom have a WIF Counter) - a fourth ship of my original class was lost during the inter-war years.
6. I was designed as a cruiser, but unlike my four sisters, was not completed as originally designed. The reason that "treaty" or "heavy" cruiser specification was set at the level it was at the Washington Treaty 1922, was due to the size of my sisters.
Warspite1

Well, I did say it was one for the grognards. The answer was HMS Vindictive. She began life during the First World War as a Hawkins-class cruiser with the name Cavendish (all ships of the class were named after Elizabethan naval heroes). However, she was completed as an aircraft carrier (albeit without a conventional flush deck), before returning to cruiser status during the twenties. Thereafter she spent time as a training ship and then a fleet repair ship.

In this latter configuration, she was deployed off Norway for that ill-fated operation and her six 4-inch HA guns were much used as the Royal Navy were constantly harried by the Luftwaffe.

USS Wyoming and USS Langley are available to the US player (assuming the US player wants to spend the build points to re-convert those ships to BB/CV - neither of which happened in real life). ADG could have done the same for HMS Vindictive.


In Norway Fleet Repair Ship HMS Vindictive was used as a troopship. So it is in the game in abstract.

Warspite1

You can argue that USS Langley (acting as an aircraft transport) is represented in WIF in abstract. However, the point is, she gets a counter and the US player can convert her back to an aircraft carrier. USS Wyoming was a training ship, but the US player can spend the build points to convert her back to an operational battleship.

In setting the clues for this quiz question I simply stated that Vindictive could have been given a counter and been treated like Langley and Wyoming.

One of the great things about a computer game of course is that there is no longer a counter limitation, and these sort of anomalies can be put right.

BTW, HMS Vindictive was used in Norway to carry troops, but she was also used as an AA ship - in Skjelfjorden and elsewhere, and as an escort for actual troopships.

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RE: Next quiz - 7/15/2011 11:58:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

MMS = Magnetic Mine Sweeper ?

quote:

What is a “HDML”?

What is a “MMS”?

What is a “Fast Patrol Boat”?


Extra credit: Name the British “Convoy Escort Vessel” with the Japanese name that was in Operation Torch.


What is a “HDML”? "L" stands for "Launch".

What is a “MMS”? No not Magnetic. Yes "MS" stands for "Mine Sweeper".

What is a “Fast Patrol Boat”? This was a redefinition of 2 boat types I'll take either one or both.


Extra credit: Name the British “Convoy Escort Vessel” with the Japanese name that was in Operation Torch.

No clues will be given for extra credit questions

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RE: Next quiz - 7/16/2011 10:37:35 AM   
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What is a “HDML”? "Harbor Defense Motor Launch"

What is a “MMS”? "Motor Mine Sweeper".

What is a “Fast Patrol Boat”? Motor Torpedo Boats and Motor Gun Boats


Extra credit: Name the British “Convoy Escort Vessel” with the Japanese name that was in Operation Torch.

Convoy Escort Vessel (Yacht) Sayonara


< Message edited by Extraneous -- 7/16/2011 10:38:09 AM >


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RE: Next quiz - 7/16/2011 4:00:45 PM   
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AFV's are not my speciality so I'll leave that one to someone else.....but in the meantime, I will ask another question to run alongside yours Orm.

The evacuation of the BEF was called Operation Dynamo. Where did the name Dynamo come from?

Essentially, it's something that spins an armature rapidly through a magnetic field to produce power. Maxwell is ultimately responsible.

Warspite1

Clue: The naming of the operation has something to do with the headquarters from which it was directed.


This makes me think of either Edison (Menlo Park) or Nobel (Scandinavian, wasn't he?), but I don't know how that could have anything to do with the BEF

Warspite1

The choice of Dynamo has nothing to do with any individual.

BTW: I think Nobel was Norwegian.
Warspite1

No takers on this one so I'll give the answer.

The Dynamo Room was Admiral Ramsay's nerve centre from where the evacuation operation was planned. It was called the Dynamo Room as it had housed an electrical power generator during WWI.

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RE: Next quiz - 7/17/2011 4:15:02 AM   
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What!

I get nothing for defining a dynamo as an electrical power generator? I should have at least got a "you're kind of warm".

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RE: Next quiz - 7/17/2011 5:56:19 AM   
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What!

I get nothing for defining a dynamo as an electrical power generator? I should have at least got a "you're kind of warm".
Warspite1

I asked where the name Operation Dynamo came from and you answered what a
Dynamo was and who invented it. I responded that the name had something to do with
the HQ where the operation was planned. I apologise if you thought I should have responded differently - I see what you mean.

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 7/17/2011 5:57:41 AM >


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RE: Next quiz - 7/17/2011 7:34:50 PM   
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What!

I get nothing for defining a dynamo as an electrical power generator? I should have at least got a "you're kind of warm".
Warspite1

I asked where the name Operation Dynamo came from and you answered what a
Dynamo was and who invented it. I responded that the name had something to do with
the HQ where the operation was planned. I apologise if you thought I should have responded differently - I see what you mean.

No worries, I was only kidding.

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RE: Next quiz - 7/17/2011 7:37:32 PM   
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I have a new question for you guys to ponder on as well as the previous questions.

Which warship am I?
1) I have a counter in MWIF.
2) During WWII a well known authour dedicated a book to my officers and crew.

Warspite1

HMS Penelope - HMS Pepperpot - one of my favourite cruisers!

It was indeed HMS Penelope that I was looking for.

((Sorry for the delay in answering. My computer crashed and have so far resisted all attempts at revival.))

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RE: Next quiz - 7/17/2011 8:12:23 PM   
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It must be catching, mine has broken twice since April - and this latest problem looks permanent . I am having to use my daughters Mac at the moment

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RE: Next quiz - 7/17/2011 9:44:35 PM   
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((Sorry for the delay in answering. My computer crashed and have so far resisted all attempts at revival.))

It must be catching, mine has broken twice since April - and this latest problem looks permanent . I am having to use my daughters Mac at the moment 


ill fix them ...just pay for my transport ...


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RE: Next quiz - 8/17/2011 9:25:05 PM   
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Name the Battle Cruiser class.

Battle Cruiser Numbers CC-1 through CC-4 design characteristics:
Displacement: 34,300 tons
Dimensions: 874' (length overall); 90'11" (maximum beam)
Power plant: 180,000 horsepower steam turbines with electric drive, producing a 35-knot maximum speed
Armament (Main Battery): Ten 14"/50 guns in two twin (turret #s 1 & 4) and two triple (turret #s 2 & 3) turrets
Armament (Secondary Battery): Eighteen 5"/51 guns in single mountings (nine guns on each side of the ship)
Rather light armor, seven smokestacks with many of the boilers above the armored deck.


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RE: Next quiz - 8/17/2011 9:59:12 PM   
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It's the Lexington-class. They were designed as battlecruisers but ended up as carriers - or at least Lexington and Saratoga were, the remaining ships were cancelled following the Washington Treaty of 1922.

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RE: Next quiz - 8/18/2011 1:21:50 AM   
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Correct The Lexington Class (CC-1 through CC-6)

The Lexington class consisted of six ships, under construction at four locations:
Lexington (CC-1) Keel laid at Quincy, Massachusetts, January 1921. Became the aircraft carrier CV-2
Constellation (CC-2) Keel laid at Newport News, Virginia, August 1920. Cancelled and scrapped
Saratoga (CC-3) Keel laid at Camden, New Jersey, September 1920. Became the aircraft carrier CV-3
Ranger (CC-4) Keel laid at Newport News, Virginia, June 1921. Cancelled and scrapped
Constitution (CC-5) Keel laid at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, September 1920. Cancelled and scrapped
United States (CC-6) Keel laid at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, September 1920. Cancelled and scrapped

Original (1916) Battle Cruiser Numbers 1 - 4 design characteristics:

Displacement: 34,300 tons
Dimensions: 874' (length overall); 90'11" (maximum beam)
Powerplant: 180,000 horsepower steam turbines with electric drive, producing a 35 knot maximum speed
Armament (Main Battery): Ten 14"/50 guns in two twin (turret #s 1 & 4) and two triple (turret #s 2 & 3) turrets
Armament (Secondary Battery): Eighteen 5"/51 guns in single mountings (nine guns on each side of the ship)



Definitive (1919) Lexington class (Battle Cruiser Numbers 1 - 6) design characteristics:

Displacement: 43,500 tons
Dimensions: 874' (length overall); 105'5" (maximum beam)
Powerplant: 180,000 horsepower steam turbines with electric drive, producing a 33.25 knot maximum speed
Armament (Main Battery): Eight 16"/50 guns in four twin turrets
Armament (Secondary Battery): Sixteen 6"/53 guns in single mountings (eight guns on each side of the ship)

Following adoption of the Washington Treaty, their construction was stopped in February 1922. The treaty allowed the conversion of two of the battle cruiser hulls to the aircraft carriers Lexington (CV-2) and Saratoga (CV-3). The other four were formally cancelled in August 1923 and scrapped on their building ways.




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RE: Next quiz - 8/18/2011 7:17:51 AM   
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In WWII, what starts with Athenia and ends with Avondale Park?

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RE: Next quiz - 8/18/2011 9:37:14 AM   
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In WWII, what starts with Athenia and ends with Avondale Park?

Since Athenia was the first Brittish ship sunk by a German submarine I go with the German U-boat war angainst the Commonwealth.

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RE: Next quiz - 8/19/2011 12:36:49 AM   
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Is the correct answer - I feared the Athenia would give it away.

The S.S. Athenia was sunk by U-30 on the 3rd September 1939

The Canadian merchant vessel Avondale Park was sunk by U-2336 on the 7th May 1945, so bringing to an end the Battle of the Atlantic, the longest battle of WWII.

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RE: Next quiz - 8/22/2011 4:03:35 PM   
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Which operations associated with Operation Torch succeeded or failed?

Operation Pedestal Re-supplying Malta
Operation Bellows Furious launches 38 Spitfires to Malta
Operation Ascendant

Operation Train Furious launches 29x Spitfires to Malta
Operation Crupper
Operation Goalpost
Operation Brushwood
Operation Blackstone
Operation Terminal (Algiers, Algeria)
Operation Reservist (Oran, Algeria)

Operation Perpetual The Assault on Bougie and Djidjelli


Extra point question: Which Liberty Ship was part of a convoy and had the same name as an U.S. Attack Transport during Operation Torch?


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RE: Next quiz - 8/22/2011 6:03:23 PM   
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Which operations associated with Operation Torch succeeded or failed?

Operation Pedestal Re-supplying Malta

Operation Terminal (Algiers, Algeria)
Operation Reservist (Oran, Algeria)



I would have the tendancy to think that those 3 ones succeeded.

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RE: Next quiz - 8/22/2011 7:06:34 PM   
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How was the aircraft re-supply of Malta in August 1942 to do with Operation Torch?

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RE: Next quiz - 8/22/2011 9:12:57 PM   
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Operation Pedestal Re-supplying Malta Succeeded

Operation Terminal (Algiers, Algeria) Succeeded

Operation Reservist (Oran, Algeria) Failed

See For the Purists for details




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RE: Next quiz - 8/22/2011 9:29:51 PM   
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How was the aircraft re-supply of Malta in August 1942 to do with Operation Torch?


Malta played its part in operation Torch.

The Submarines that acted as beacons for the convoys and were based at Malta.

Pedestal was a success because the Tanker S.S. Ohio got into port before sinking (Malta was that short of fuel).



Second set of clues:

First 3 are during Pedestal.

Next 7 are during Torch.

Last one occured after Torch.

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RE: Next quiz - 8/22/2011 10:10:30 PM   
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How was the aircraft re-supply of Malta in August 1942 to do with Operation Torch?


Malta played its part in operation Torch.

Warspite1

Mmmmm... I think that is more than a little tenuous. Pedestal was vital to keep Malta from starvation and for its continued use as a military base. The delivery of aircraft was vital as they allowed air cover for convoys coming in and for defence against enemy bombers attacking Malta, but Torch would have succeeded with or without Pedestal and with or without Malta.

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RE: Next quiz - 8/23/2011 1:48:54 PM   
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But could Malta have survived with out Operation Torch? You have to admit Malta was a major contributor to the control of the Mediterranean.


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Operation Roundup (1942) - The Allied plan to invade Europe in event of German or Soviet collapse.
Operation Sledgehammer (1942) – The Allied plan for a cross-Channel invasion of Europe, as the first step in helping to reduce pressure on the Soviet Red Army by establishing a Second Front.
Operation Roundhammer – Revised version of Roundup.

04/24/42 Churchill and Roosevelt meet to discuss the number of conflicting offensive plans which might be launched against Germany in 1942. The main ones were 'Rutter', a 24-hour cross Channel raid on Dieppe. 'Sledgehammer' using six divisions to establish a permanent beachhead on the French coast at Cherbourg and 'Jupiter' which called for a permanent beachhead in northern Norway. Discussion were also had on the up and coming operation 'Gymnast', which was the proposed Anglo-American landing in French North Africa later in the year.

Roosevelt agrees with Churchill that Operation 'Gymnast' should continue, while operation 'Sledgehammer' should be cancelled.

Operation Torch (Operation Gymnast) (1942) - Initially the planners wished to strike east of Gibraltar to directly threaten Tunisia, which with Tunis and Bizerte represented two of the best deep water ports in North Africa, but ultimately the Allies conservatively chose landing sites much further west due to the threat of Spain potentially allowing the Germans to cross Spanish territory to invade Gibraltar, which might cut off any Allied contingents between Gibraltar and Tunisia.

The Soviet Union had pressed the U.S. and Britain to start operations in Europe and open a second front to reduce the pressure of German forces on the Soviet troops. While the American commanders favored Operation Sledgehammer, landing in Occupied Europe as soon as possible, the British commanders believed that such a course would end in disaster. An attack on French North Africa was proposed instead, which would clear the Axis Powers from North Africa, improve naval control of the Mediterranean Sea and prepare for an invasion of Southern Europe in 1943.





After Operation Pedestal and Operation Torch the siege of Malta had been broken.

The road and rail systems in French North Africa were found unacceptable to adiquately supply the Allied troops after Operation Torch. “Operation Perpetual The Assault on Bougie and Djidjelli” made it easier to support the Allied drive on Tunis.




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