heliodorus04
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ORIGINAL: bwheatley I think the point is folks doubt that this maneuver could have happened at the start of barbarossa. And moreover there is absolutely nothing the Sov player can do about it. In my limited experience whether or not the Lvov Gambit takes place makes a significant difference to the opening campaign season. Just as there is nothing the German player can do about the Soviet creating perfect 2-hex gaps between any Soviet unit and the next one, so that there's perfect ZOC maginot line. Just as the Soviet is free to NOT fight the Germans along the frontier, so too the German is allowed to re-arrange units to suit his strategic plan. Why does this bother people so much? Germans can do Lvov, Soviets can run for the hills to avoid early encirclement. Both sides have freedom to deviate from history equally. The German pays a strategic cost for this maneuver: He EITHER has a panzer corps in AGS that reports to AGC, and it will have serious problems with fuel, combat effectiveness, and overall admin efficiency. OR, if he allocates AP to put it into AGS, he overloads AGS (the most grossly over-loaded Tier 2 HQ in the entire game at the start of the GC'41) and spends a phenomenal amount of AP to do this. Considering all the Romanian ****-units that start attached to AGS, and the insane cost for Germans to move Armies out of Army Groups, there's virtually no hope of fixing the command situation of AGS until AG A and AG B form. Ultimately if you move this corps from AGC, you will need to spend APs to move it into an AGS command. Now, if I could unfreeze the frozen motorized units in AGS on Turn 1, I wouldn't need this. But that will never happen without someone creating an edited version of the GC'41 start situation.
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