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Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/18/2011 10:32:20 PM

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I'm having problems moving a ground unit by air transport; can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

I have a unit at Nanchang (23rd RGC Temp Div / RGC Army [R]) with an assault strength of 26 that I want to move to Kukong by air. I flew in a Topsy air group and selected Kukong base as the destination but when I try to load up the 23rd all I can see on the list for units to transport is the 17th JAAF Base Force (which is attached to the China Expeditionary [R] command).

Why can't I see the 23rd RGC Temp Div? Am I doing something wrong? The 23rd is made up of Chinese Inf Squads, a few 81mm mortars, and Support units. Are the 81mm mortar squads too big to load onto Topsy transport aircraft?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/18/2011 10:51:50 PM

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Restricted HQ?

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/19/2011 12:40:34 AM

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23rd RGC Temp Div / RGC Army [R]

[R] That's why. The unit is restricted.

EDIT: If the mortars could not be loaded the rest of the unit still would be loaded (leaving the mortars behind).

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/19/2011 4:27:42 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rainer

quote:

23rd RGC Temp Div / RGC Army [R]

[R] That's why. The unit is restricted.

EDIT: If the mortars could not be loaded the rest of the unit still would be loaded (leaving the mortars behind).

quote:

the 17th JAAF Base Force (which is attached to the China Expeditionary [R] command).

The 17th JAAF Base Force (which is attached to the China Expeditionary [R] command) shows up though - I can transport China Expeditionary forces that are restricted but not, I guess, units restricted from other commands?

Does anyone know the logic behind not allowing restricted units to be transported by air/ship? Now I'm just curious. I mean - there are some great rivers in China and it would be nice to position units along the coast of China to other ports to better use the rail lines... I understand that the designers don't want to have me use units connected to the RGC Army outside of China but it looks like it would be easier to jump-start operations in the China Theatre if I could speed up the deployment of the smaller garrison units to all of those bases that require garrisons.

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/19/2011 3:50:01 PM

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The 17th JAAF Base Force (which is attached to the China Expeditionary [R] command) shows up though - I can transport China Expeditionary forces that are restricted but not, I guess, units restricted from other commands?

You're right. The restriction only shows up when you try to set a destination outside the restricted area.
My initial advice obviously is wrong.
In other words: I don't know why the 23rd RGC Div doesn't show

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/19/2011 4:58:13 PM

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If it is white restricted I don't think it can fly. If I recall, I could not transport any of my white (R) Chinese units but could transport those that were yellow (R) withing China. and after changing them to unrestricted could fly them out of China.

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/19/2011 10:40:10 PM

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If it is white restricted I don't think it can fly. If I recall, I could not transport any of my white (R) Chinese units but could transport those that were yellow (R) withing China. and after changing them to unrestricted could fly them out of China.

Sounds right. Hard to move a lot of the HI units around also.

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/20/2011 11:36:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: seii taish�gun

Why can't I see the 23rd RGC Temp Div? Am I doing something wrong? The 23rd is made up of Chinese Inf Squads, a few 81mm mortars, and Support units. Are the 81mm mortar squads too big to load onto Topsy transport aircraft?

That touches an important question and maybe a space for the interface improvement...
I've been always wondering what devices can and which cannot be transferred by air.

I recently noticed that by T90 75 mm guns are too big to be transferred even by mighty H8K2-Ls, while most mortars (& even some other 75 mm or bigger howitzers) can be sent by air.
Are there any hard & fast rules?
Is it load cost of 10+ too big? Is it the compilation of load capacity and load cost of the device?

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/23/2011 3:34:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: viberpol

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ORIGINAL: seii taish�gun

Why can't I see the 23rd RGC Temp Div? Am I doing something wrong? The 23rd is made up of Chinese Inf Squads, a few 81mm mortars, and Support units. Are the 81mm mortar squads too big to load onto Topsy transport aircraft?

That touches an important question and maybe a space for the interface improvement...
I've been always wondering what devices can and which cannot be transferred by air.

I recently noticed that by T90 75 mm guns are too big to be transferred even by mighty H8K2-Ls, while most mortars (& even some other 75 mm or bigger howitzers) can be sent by air.
Are there any hard & fast rules?
Is it load cost of 10+ too big? Is it the compilation of load capacity and load cost of the device?

Ark, they may have factored in more than cargo capacity. I don't think a seaplane such as this could have the cargo doors needed to load large weapons without affecting the watertight integrity. Not to mention that some planes just were not struturally able to fit doors of a large size. Let me check my big coronados to see if they can carry big guns. My C47 can only carry guns up to 75 mm. I think the C100 can carry up to 105mm.

I looked it up and from what I read the emily was really a troop transport (60 men) and not designed for carrying heavy cargo.

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RE: Transporting LCU by air problems - 9/24/2011 7:34:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: seii taish�gun

I'm having problems moving a ground unit by air transport; can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

I have a unit at Nanchang (23rd RGC Temp Div / RGC Army [R]) with an assault strength of 26 that I want to move to Kukong by air. I flew in a Topsy air group and selected Kukong base as the destination but when I try to load up the 23rd all I can see on the list for units to transport is the 17th JAAF Base Force (which is attached to the China Expeditionary [R] command).

Why can't I see the 23rd RGC Temp Div? Am I doing something wrong? The 23rd is made up of Chinese Inf Squads, a few 81mm mortars, and Support units. Are the 81mm mortar squads too big to load onto Topsy transport aircraft?

Restricted units can only be transported to bases with THE SAME HQ. RGC have its own Command, it is probably part of China HQ, but sub-commands seems not to work. There is also some Armies in China HQ, and units belonging to them also seems to NOT be able to air-transport.

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