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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 12:20:42 AM

GreyJoy

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Oct 10,11,12,13 1943

Japanese sub offensive is over...for the moment.
We managed to sink at least 3 enemy subs, damaging many more with our ASW assets, at the expense of 1 APD and 1 xAKL...not bad. Rader has now moved them back.
We are trying to take advantage of this window and we're now sending out our fleet from Ndeni. First step will be Karakira where a 250 fighter CAP will be waiting.
4Es will bomb Thousands again tomorrow, while 75 P-47s will perform high alt sweeps and P-38 will escort.
Rader's fleet is waiting at Rabaul...ready to come out...

In India, while we approach Multan, our 4Es scored some good hits on his strat moving troops from Dehli to Multan...but i forgot to put them down for the next turn so i fear a slaughter...

Very tense turns....believe me....

orning Air attack on Guards Tank Division, at 55,10 (Lahore)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 24
B-24J Liberator x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
438 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (3 destroyed, 38 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 32nd Division ...
Also attacking 24th Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 6th Guards Division ...
Also attacking 4th Guards Division ...

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Morning Air attack on 7th Division, at 53,12 , near Ludhiana

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
514 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 18th Army ...
Also attacking 7th Division ...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 12:26:15 AM

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For what concerns use of LCVPs...thanks guys, i think i'll try what Don has suggested, using them empty as an help to unload slower ships... let's see how it goes...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 12:28:38 AM

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The first wave for Thousands will be composed only by 2 Divisions, cause i didn't have enough room for two more divisions...the 4th Marine and the Americal Divisions will be used in this first wave, along with 2 Tank BNs, 1 Tank Destroyer, 4 Artillery Units (105 and 155 mm), 2 Eng BNs and a Corp HQ...i'm sweating...risking so much...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 1:06:44 AM

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Oct 14, 15 1943

The carnage was expected due to my mistake of not recalling back my bombers...they kept on hitting the enemy's moving troops and ended up bombing them at Multan...where they found a HORRIBLE Flak and a 150 CAP...at least 25 4Es are lost....

Morning Air attack on 2nd Guards Division, at 55,10 (Lahore)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 12
Liberator GR.III x 16

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x Liberator II bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Guards Division ...

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Morning Air attack on 15th Division, at 50,9 (Multan)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 39
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 38
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 19

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 16
B-24D Liberator x 9
B-24D1 Liberator x 18
B-24J Liberator x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 10 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
964 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 62 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 54 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Liberator II bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
202 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (5 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
204 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (5 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (5 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (5 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 36th Division ...
Also attacking 39th Division ...
Also attacking 37th Division ...
Also attacking 17th Division ...
Also attacking 15th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 15th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 36th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 15th Division ...
The informartions gathered however were quite usefull... till now i've counted at least 20 divisions in India, and many more regiments, bdes, tank units etc....

My P-47s from Lunga slaughtered the enemy LRCAP over Thousands, losing 2 planes but killing nearly 25 of the enemy!

...clearing so the way for 160 4Es that hit the base once again...

Bad news is that Rader seems to have reinforced Thousands a lot....48,000 men present

...

Another bad news is that we sent a small DD division (3 fletchers) to sweep Munda...and we found 1 CA, 1 CL and 2 DDs...the enemy gave me a good slap sinking the Jenkins with a torp...while we managed to severly damage of of his DD...could have gone better but i don't whyne.

Ok...tomorrow we're going in...bombing runs, LRCAP, ASW, landing barges...lots of activities...lots of possible mistakes......really tense

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 1:16:04 AM

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Good Luck. Break his razor

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 1:19:01 AM

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Lots of those men will be base troops, and maybe remnants from Tulagi.

Fingers crossed.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 2:14:30 AM

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Good luck GreyJoy. One of the benefits of attacking Thousands is that you have multiple save harbors one or two hexes away. I hope you made sure your home bases were all set to one of TLT.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 2:20:13 AM

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Good luck, Reek. Flay a few of those LYBs and leave them staked out on the beach for the crabs. You do remember the crabs, right? War is cruelty and it cannot be refined (Sherman). Now, goforth and prove to the misguided chumps just how true that is.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 4:21:56 AM

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Probably too late, but do you have one of those Eng Amph Brigades along? Those things rock in invasions.

EDIT: Struck out an incorrect statement about LCVPs. Those suckers do help unload other ships in the TF when empty. Thanks witpqs for the correction. /EDIT

Good luck!

Cheers,
CC

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 4:31:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Probably too late, but do you have one of those Eng Amph Brigades along? Those things rock in invasions. Also, witpqs above stated that those LCVPs do not help other ships unload (as told by Don Bowen, the coder). However, they are quite good at moving supplies and infantry.

Good luck!

Cheers,
CC

My error was luckily caught and corrected:

quote:

ORIGINAL: USS America

If you read somewhere further down in that thread, you should see where Don corrected himself and said that the small landing craft will also aid the unload rate of other ships in the same TF.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 5:49:11 AM

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Ah, missed that comment in my haste. Thanks witps.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 7:04:36 AM

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Oct 16, 17 1943

We decided at the very last minute to hold back our invasion for one more turn and we sent forward to Thousands a bait composed by 5 cruisers and 6 DDs, along with 10 merchants full of supplies. Detached a very strong LRCAP over this bait and sent 75 P-47s to sweep Thousands...

The KB showed up south west of Treasury Island...

I wanted to wore down his air forces a bit before committing my precious invasion ships...

The bait paid off...

It resulted in a great serie of air fightings over the southern Solomons...

I sniffed the fact that Rader, after seeing my fleet at Karaikira last turn, would have finally order a general naval attack, so giving his LBA bombers a range that could reach Karaikira at Least....i hoped he didn't set a greater range cause i kept my fleet 2 hexes North-East of Karaikira...

Our guess was correct...

hordes of Nells, Betties and Frances showed up over Thousands and over Lunga, while our sweeps at Thousands gave the chance to my P-47s to tangle again against his georges that showed up en masse...probably coming from Rekata Bay...

The KB never launched...despite her favourable position...

At the end of the 2 days turn we obtained a good 3-1 ratio...and, above all, we gave a strong blow to the morale of his air crews...hopefully this will help in tomorrow landings...

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Morning Air attack on Thousand Ships Bay , at 114,136

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 2
N1K1-J George x 34
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 14
Hurricane XIIb x 16
P-38G Lightning x 12
P-38H Lightning x 18
P-40K Warhawk x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 24
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F4U-1A Corsair x 9
F6F-3 Hellcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane XIIb: 1 destroyed
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Thousand Ships Bay , at 114,136

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
Kittyhawk III x 16
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
Hurricane XIIb x 8
P-38G Lightning x 12
P-38H Lightning x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 36
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F4U-1A Corsair x 9
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Thousand Ships Bay at 114,136

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 93 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 13
N1K1-J George x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
Kittyhawk III x 8
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-38G Lightning x 11
P-38H Lightning x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 19
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18
F4U-1 Corsair x 26
F4U-1A Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 8 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 193 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 57 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 58
N1K1-J George x 89
P1Y1 Frances x 6

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-38H Lightning x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 10
P-40N1 Warhawk x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-40N1 Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
DM Preble
DM Montgomery, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Thousand Ships Bay at 114,136

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 100 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 23
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-38H Lightning x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 16
F4U-1 Corsair x 15
F4U-1A Corsair x 6
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAK Steel Traveler

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 3
P-40N1 Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Cushing

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Thousand Ships Bay at 114,136

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 13
N1K1-J George x 22

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5
Kittyhawk III x 7
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
Hurricane XIIb x 3
P-38G Lightning x 10
P-38H Lightning x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 17
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 19
F4U-1 Corsair x 25
F4U-1A Corsair x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 8 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 183 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 54 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 11
N1K1-J George x 27
P1Y1 Frances x 6

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 7
P-40N1 Warhawk x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 13
F4U-1A Corsair x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Thousand Ships Bay at 114,136

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 11
G4M1 Betty x 9
N1K1-J George x 35

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
Hurricane XIIb x 2
P-38G Lightning x 7
P-38H Lightning x 20
P-40K Warhawk x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
N1K1-J George: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP Sin Kheng Seng, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Admiral Wiley

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 5
P-40N1 Warhawk x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
F4U-1A Corsair x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Thousand Ships Bay , at 114,136

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 2
N1K1-J George x 24
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 13
Spitfire Vc Trop x 13
Hurricane XIIb x 7
P-38G Lightning x 10
P-38H Lightning x 17
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 41
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Thousand Ships Bay , at 114,136

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 10
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
Hurricane XIIb x 13
P-38G Lightning x 10
P-38H Lightning x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 9
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 39
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Thousand Ships Bay at 114,136

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 4
N1K1-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Kittyhawk III x 8
Spitfire Vc Trop x 9
Hurricane XIIb x 4
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-38H Lightning x 24
P-40K Warhawk x 14
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 19
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
F4U-1A Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 191 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 57 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 32
N1K1-J George x 28
P1Y1 Frances x 6

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 6
P-40N1 Warhawk x 8
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 6
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CM Salem
DM Preble

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Thousand Ships Bay at 114,136

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 100 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 10
P1Y1 Frances x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
Kittyhawk III x 2
Spitfire Vc Trop x 8
Hurricane XIIb x 4
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-38H Lightning x 19
P-40K Warhawk x 14
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 11
F4U-1 Corsair x 7
F4U-1A Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 7:05:13 AM

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 7:05:45 AM

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 7:33:03 AM

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Nice ambush, lots of planes you won't be seeing tomorrow, not to mention damaged planes and pilot morale. Got to say, those Jake losses are totally off the wall. They must make good cannon fodder.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 8:44:02 AM

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I've noticed that Rader, also in in other game, is particularly eager to sacrifice jakes in waves...he simply doesn't care...and that speaks a lot about the a/c production capabilities of scenario 2...

Anyway, i'm thinking a lot about what to do now...there are still lots of fighters and bombers in Rader's hands that didn't partecipate in today slaughterhouse and that are still fresh. I count at least more 500 fighters and something like 130 LBA bombers that didn't took off today...not considering the KB...
We need to make Reek rhyme with sneak...and to do that we must keep on being as less predictable as possible...

His KB is now in an exposed position. I'm pretty sure Rader complains about the fact that the KB never launch in the Solomons...it's already the second time in a row that the KB tries to partecipate to Rader's mass LBA attacks against my shippings and that it ends for 2 days in a row under a terrible storm that prevents her from launching her planes...
When i say that the KB is exposed, i mean that it's in range of my SDBs that, if based at Lunga, could attack her... so i think Rader will move her now for the next turn......so wht to do? Shift from the defensive to the offensive and base 200 SDB/TBMs at Lunga with 200 fighter as escort?

...hard to tell...

But there's another important decision i'm taking...
Thousands Ships Bay...our target...
...i've recollected the last 30 combat reports and all the bombings (naval and aerial) we've done in the last 2 months.
I know i should have done it earlier but without Tracker it's really a pain to keep track of all the infos that you collect every turn...

However...Thousands has been encreasing its strenght in a dangerous way. More AAs, more engs and i suppose he brought there a base force with CD guns cause they started to shoot back at my BBs lately...
My air bombing recon shows that remenants of the Tulagi invasion force are present there, along with one more regiment and a combat eng regiment.
Even 150 4Es lately had hard time to damage the AF...which is a clear sign of a good fort level...

in a word...i'm getting really scared...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 8:44:33 AM

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...and i'm thinking to an alternative plan....

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 8:49:20 AM

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AUKI....where there's only 15,000 men, 70 guns and 8 vehicles...and only a garrison unit present...so roughly 100 AVs....

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 11:06:26 AM

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Ok, i've made a test. In a non atoll base, even if not prepped, my invasion force should easily take a base defended only by a garrison unit. I can deploy 1000 AVs and a very good firepower, supported by a couple of bombing runs and, if needed, by an air bombing with 4Es (not ordered for the moment in order to save some precious 4Es that, for the moment, are not considered decisive for this landing).

I don't think Rader is waiting for me at Auki...i've been focusing mainly on Thousands for the past months and i'm pretty sure that if he sends a surface force to interdict me (strange enough he didn't last turn) it will be directed towards Thousands). In any case a SCTF, leaded by Lee and composed of 2 fast BBs, 2 modern CAs, 3 Cleveland Class CLs and 8 Fletchers DD will sweep Auki on the first night, right before my landing forces that are supposed to arrive in the following morning.
The amphib TFs will be supported by 3 old BBs, 3 CAs and some 12 DDs, along with a HUGE number of SCs, DEs and other ASW ships.
4 separate ASW TFs will provide an ASW Screen, while 2 Escort Carrier TFs, composed by 9 CVEs will give close air support, boosting the LRCAP provided by fighters based at Tassa and Tulagi.
At Lunga i'm keeping a strong bait under 200 fighter CAP.
Night CAP over our landings is provided by 11 Havocs from Tulagi.
PTs will form a screen in an arc around the whole southern Solomons, while a Cruiser SCTFs will be based at Auki, giving close support in any case.
2 Bombing runs are ordered against Munda (a DD division) and against Rekata Bay (1 CA+4 CLs)...hope to damage some of his primary AFs in the area.

CVs will away...hoping to be able to come into play when the KB will have lost some of his power...

100 mines will be placed at Thousands by night with 2 CMs and 1 DMs...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 12:51:17 PM

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I think it's definitely a good idea to go around any bases he has made special preps for, like CD guns, if there is another more lightly defended base right next door. It looks like he's ready to jump whatever you do so the next few turns will be interesting.

When is D-Day?

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 1:02:10 PM

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quote:

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I think it's definitely a good idea to go around any bases he has made special preps for, like CD guns, if there is another more lightly defended base right next door. It looks like he's ready to jump whatever you do so the next few turns will be interesting.

When is D-Day?

D-Day is tomorrow. We should start the first landings during the first morning (remember 2 days/turn)...so we're gonna have, on paper, 3 pahses to unload my precious APA/AKAs...should be enough...
Now what remains to be seen is what Rader will do with his surface forces and with the KB...

I stripped the old BBs and sent them to Ndeni...against a soft defended target without CD guns i prefer not to risk them...

I already feel the pain for the losses in terms of CVEs i'm going to suffer...

Hope my CVEs won't react...they are in "escort CV" mission and should follow, with react 0 and with not aggressive commanders, the amphib TFs...let's see how it goes...

Finger crossed...turn sent

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 1:03:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

I think it's definitely a good idea to go around any bases he has made special preps for, like CD guns, if there is another more lightly defended base right next door. It looks like he's ready to jump whatever you do so the next few turns will be interesting.

When is D-Day?

I dont think CD guns will be an issue. Japan only gets 3 movable CD units, them sharing 8 x 20cm, 8 x 14 and 15cm and 12 x 12cm guns between them. Ie. almost nothing, and best the movable base forces and engineering units have are 25mm AA guns.

Mines and minisubs on the other hand...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 2:14:06 PM

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I like your new plan and cant wait to see the results.

If you cant beat it, pass it by! Just dont let him evacuate Thousands without inflicting massive causalities.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 2:27:16 PM

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There are times when it makes good sense to invade with little or no preparation. Those occasions do require the use of overhwelming force. It sounds like you know that, either instinctively or as something you've thought through. So good luck with the invasion.

...but you had better not drag this out another day! We, your humble peanut gallery, are sitting on the edges of our seats and biting our finger nails. Please make sure rader is available for another turn or two today. No slacking off now! No vacations to Madagascar! No dates with the girlfriend! No trips to the local mall for a body waxing! Get to it, man!

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 2:59:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

There are times when it makes good sense to invade with little or no preparation. Those occasions do require the use of overhwelming force. It sounds like you know that, either instinctively or as something you've thought through. So good luck with the invasion.

...but you had better not drag this out another day! We, your humble peanut gallery, are sitting on the edges of our seats and biting our finger nails. Please make sure rader is available for another turn or two today. No slacking off now! No vacations to Madagascar! No dates with the girlfriend! No trips to the local mall for a body waxing! Get to it, man!

This evening i've promised my GF to cook for her...but i've already planned to simulate a backsliding of the intestinal flue we both suffered at Zanzibar...so the idea is to send her back home pretty soon

If Rader keeps his usual scheldue for today, i guess we can have 2 more turns during daylight-first evening (US time).

Auki isn't a very good strategical position like Thousands...but now i need to start moving and if i can bypass it (and i think i can) without taking unacceptable losses, i think we can start to jump over the Solomons in a faster way in the nearby future. Now the plan remains the same for this area: Take Auki and isolate Thousands and Russell and then jump forward, threatening the New Georgia Islands.

Thousands or Auki doesn't change much at this point....and if there i can get less losses...let's go there and don't bother much with preparation...i should get a 10-1 AV ratio once unloaded, so preparation shouldn't really be an issue...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 3:01:33 PM

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Got to say, those Jake losses are totally off the wall. They must make good cannon fodder.

The attrition rate for planes on search is very high when there are heavily capped hexes in the search radius.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 3:15:31 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

I think it's definitely a good idea to go around any bases he has made special preps for, like CD guns, if there is another more lightly defended base right next door. It looks like he's ready to jump whatever you do so the next few turns will be interesting.

When is D-Day?

I dont think CD guns will be an issue. Japan only gets 3 movable CD units, them sharing 8 x 20cm, 8 x 14 and 15cm and 12 x 12cm guns between them. Ie. almost nothing, and best the movable base forces and engineering units have are 25mm AA guns.

Mines and minisubs on the other hand...

Is the number of CD guns the same in Scenario 2? I don't know one way or the other.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 3:17:40 PM

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GreyJoy, you mentioned it was strange that Rader didn't interdict you with surface forces at Thousands last turn, but I think it's expected. In my mind, Rader will wait until you show up with transports and start unloading, and then try to hit you with his SC TF's. The 2 day turns may really work to your advantage here, if your APA/AKA's can all unload in 3 phases and get out of dodge. Good luck!

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 3:28:53 PM

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Another experienced player recently mentioned that a number of IJ base forces upgrade to include CD guns sometime in 1943. I don't remember who mentioned this or where he mentioned it, but it got my full attention as an Allied player (my "full attention" doesn't necessarily mean I have a good memory, as my spouse will attest). So I think there are more than three IJ CD units by 1943. Perhaps alot more.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/18/2011 3:45:10 PM

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Another experienced player recently mentioned that a number of IJ base forces upgrade to include CD guns sometime in 1943. I don't remember who mentioned this or where he mentioned it, but it got my full attention as an Allied player (my "full attention" doesn't necessarily mean I have a good memory, as my spouse will attest). So I think there are more than three IJ CD units by 1943. Perhaps alot more.

So it seems... Looks like the upgrade TOE is not viewable in the Tracker, but the Base Forces arriving after mid-43-ish seem to indeed have some CD guns! 4 x 8cm/40 T88 DP guns per unit. If GreyJoy has some heavier than DD ships in the amphibious TFs, those guns shouldn't be much of a problem.

We'll stay tuned GreyJoy.