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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/16/2011 2:31:57 AM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/18/2011 6:41:17 PM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/18/2011 8:49:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		David Rice Atchison the Senate leader?? Wow -- the man was a "Border Ruffian" in actual history. (And yes, I know he was a Senator.) I think you wanted "audacity" rather than "audacious".

The law concerning Arizona's natural resources is a very interesting thought. What do you do when States' Rights clash with individual rights? And I can't help but think there would have been a major showdown when the Federal government wanted silver bullion to bolster its currency. Arizona's law would probably have been overridden under the interstate commerce clause of the Constitution.

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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/18/2011 10:13:49 PM   
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What do you do when States' Rights clash with individual rights?


My guess is that you would weigh the merits of each instance and let the courts come to a measured balance.
Sorta like what they do in reality.


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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/21/2011 3:14:48 AM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/23/2011 12:01:04 AM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/27/2011 1:15:16 AM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/28/2011 2:08:48 AM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/28/2011 11:38:04 PM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 9/29/2011 4:01:18 AM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 10/1/2011 3:42:46 AM   
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The presses at the Richmond Confederate will crank back up when I return.

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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 10/1/2011 8:21:50 PM   
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A more violent Anthony Burns incident


A very ingenious bit of altered history -- the actual Anthony Burns incident aroused much ill feeling in Massachusetts as it was, and this would have inflamed the entire North.

But again, I'm interested in the "justifiable Fugitive Slave Law". The historical law was, in this amateur historian's opinion, the vilest law that the U.S. Federal Government has ever carried on its books. Reading it (especially the last part of Section 6), it is hard to avoid the conclusion that it was also meant to allow free blacks to be seized and taken south as slaves.
http://www.nationalcenter.org/FugitiveSlaveAct.html


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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 10/2/2011 3:02:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is real interesting, PJ. Keep up the good work.

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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 10/7/2011 1:00:19 AM   
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RE: Richmond Confederate Newspaper - 10/15/2011 3:23:49 AM   
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DTG Issue - 10/15/2011 4:58:36 AM   
bugwar


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Status: offline 		Uhmmm, you might want to edit the last line of the newspaper. Slight time warp there.

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RE: DTG Issue - 10/17/2011 3:14:02 AM   
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RE: DTG Issue - 10/17/2011 3:17:37 AM   
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Passing Notes - 10/17/2011 5:07:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Did they actually do that in reality? The missive, not the addressing it to Fremont.

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RE: Passing Notes - 10/27/2011 12:33:57 AM   
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Flip-flop circa 1860 - 10/27/2011 12:55:32 AM   
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RE: Flip-flop circa 1860 - 10/27/2011 1:40:31 PM   
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RE: Flip-flop circa 1860 - 10/27/2011 1:54:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well since you are going there, many people have commented on your newsletter, not just me and I tried to do it in private. If you think I am a smart alec for pointing out that you list 34 states (31: CA, 32: NM, 33:KS, 34: AZ) but only held an election with 31, then so be it. You said you were doing an alternate history scenario. Most people like their scenarios to be well written without errors and like to have ideas to aid them in their creation process. I offered a few things to think about, nothing more. You are free to take them or leave them. I know that the "Reverend" Falwell did not really like outside input either and found the Bible to be inconvenient to his goals and you seem to have learned those lessons well there at Liberty. So keep on doing what you wish, ignore your mistakes and have zealous overreactions to offers of help. Just like the muslim terrorists who we fed, clothed, housed, armed so they could defend themselves and then watched as they decided to repay us by bombing our cities and assassinating our people. Great crowd to be with.

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RE: Flip-flop circa 1860 - 10/27/2011 8:42:54 PM   
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That is way over the line. No personal attacks, no religion and no politics.

You get a formal warning. If you want to discuss this further, please e-mail me at erikr@matrixgames.com.

Regards,

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RE: Flip-flop circa 1860 - 10/27/2011 9:17:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pjwheeling

Sorry guys. Last post. This was never meant to anything more that a fun project. I'm not a historian and never claimed to be. Critique to your hearts content.

Patrick


Pity. I enjoyed the series.

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RE: Flip-flop circa 1860 - 11/13/2011 8:12:32 PM   
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RE: Flip-flop circa 1860 - 11/19/2011 1:46:24 AM   
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RE: Passing Notes - 1/14/2012 4:31:24 PM   
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Did they actually do that in reality? The missive, not the addressing it to Fremont.


Better *very* late than never department:

What was actually proposed in late 1859, by a group of Senators rather than a convention of states, was the so-called Crittenden Compromise. The main feature would have added six new amendments to the Constitution, which would be permanent and unamendable, guaranteeing the continuation of slavery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crittenden_Compromise

Very fortunately, it was rejected, especially by president-elect Lincoln.



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