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RE: Next quiz - 10/24/2011 12:12:49 AM   
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and why?

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RE: Next quiz - 10/24/2011 1:25:37 AM   
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Who said ""Never were so few led by so many"
and why?

Vague memories, ... In Arnhem when the British had a preponderance of officiers to enlisted men?

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RE: Next quiz - 10/24/2011 1:56:13 AM   
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But wrong battle and not British.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/24/2011 2:41:41 PM   
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Who said ""Never were so few led by so many"
and why?


Churchill about the battle over England in 1940 I think. About the pilots of the fighter aircrafts? Or do i mixup because of my bad english.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/24/2011 3:48:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Was not that the general of the 101 airborne? General something something...
Think after the initial landing during Overlord he only managed to find his staff and a few soldiers?

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RE: Next quiz - 10/24/2011 5:09:09 PM   
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Maxwell Taylor of the 101st Airborne makes the remark. I saw it quoted in Ambrose's 'D-Day' though I'm not sure if that was the original source.
While Ambrose can tend to be a bit light on in-depth analysis and have a strong American bias his work on D-Day is just about unmatched for the amount of first-hand accounts of the battle. One of my favourite parts of the book are the dark humour displayed by soldiers/airmen/sailors participating in the battle. IIRC one of the Canadian soldiers remarks as they are taking fire approaching a beach 'I'm sorry is this a private beach? Are we intruding?'

Michael you are thinking of the quote 'Never was so much owed by so many to so few' ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_was_so_much_owed_by_so_many_to_so_few




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RE: Next quiz - 10/25/2011 3:39:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Troop is correct. General Maxwell Taylor of the 101st Airborne on June 6th 1944.

An odd assortment of men was culled from thorn-thick hedges and ditches along roads to storm Pouppeville. Division Commander, Chief of Staff, clerks, MPs, artillerymen, signalmen, a sprinkling of infantry parachutists -- all combined to form a task force against this village that blocked the entrance of a causeway leading from Utah Beach. So abundant were staff officers that Gen. Taylor remarked, "Never were so few led by so many."

http://www.lonesentry.com/gi_stories_booklets/101stairborne/

And I did just read that in Anthony Beevor's D-Day book , which is excellent.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/26/2011 2:57:39 AM   
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 Why did it have another name?

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RE: Next quiz - 10/26/2011 3:12:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		USS Seraph was better know as HMS Seraph. She was actually a British sub used in special ops (i.e. operation Mincemeat, etc) but briefly served under US colors and a US captain on one of her missions.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/26/2011 1:41:36 PM   
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1st clue: Generals Eisenhower and Clark.



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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 2:45:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Extraneous

Why did she serve under US colors?

1st clue: Generals Eisenhower and Clark.




To carry Clark to Algeria for his meeting with ummmm Vichy French Admiral Wossisname?

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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 2:53:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Szilard

To carry Clark to Algeria for his meeting with ummmm Vichy French Admiral Wossisname?


Amiral Darlan i think.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 3:46:17 PM   
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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 4:22:27 PM   
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2nd clue: Generals Dwight David "Ike" Eisenhower, Mark Wayne Clark, and codename Kingpin.

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No.

On November 7, 1942, just before the beginning of Operation Torch, Darlan went to Algiers to visit his son, who was hospitalized after a severe attack of polio. Darlan did not know that secret agreements had been made on October 23, 1942.





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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 5:47:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

If you play with Cruisers in flames, you'll notice that the Japanese light cruiser Kitakami has a truly impressive ship to ship attack value of 5. While originally a fairly ordinary Kuma-class cruiser, she received an upgrade prior to the war in the Pacific. What kind of new armaments did she sport that justified such a powerful attack rating?



painful

making me think of the Broadside-class cruiser...(star wars)

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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 7:04:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

If you play with Cruisers in flames, you'll notice that the Japanese light cruiser Kitakami has a truly impressive ship to ship attack value of 5. While originally a fairly ordinary Kuma-class cruiser, she received an upgrade prior to the war in the Pacific. What kind of new armaments did she sport that justified such a powerful attack rating?


Wasn't this ship upgraded with 203 mm Guns?

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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 7:16:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

If you play with Cruisers in flames, you'll notice that the Japanese light cruiser Kitakami has a truly impressive ship to ship attack value of 5. While originally a fairly ordinary Kuma-class cruiser, she received an upgrade prior to the war in the Pacific. What kind of new armaments did she sport that justified such a powerful attack rating?

Warspite1

She - and her sister Oi - were fitted with a huge number of 24-inch torpedo tubes.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 7:21:07 PM   
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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 7:35:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Warspite gets it. Each ship had 40 tubes. Combined with the extremely powerful torpedoes the Japanese used they could have dished out a *lot* of hurt, but as far as I know, neither ever got a chance to engage a big capital ship with them.

For his own question:
quote:

After Douglas MacArthur left the Philippines, who ordered the surrender of American forces in PI?



Wasn't it Johnathan Wainwright who gave the surrender?


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RE: Next quiz - 10/27/2011 8:53:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

Warspite gets it. Each ship had 40 tubes. Combined with the extremely powerful torpedoes the Japanese used they could have dished out a *lot* of hurt, but as far as I know, neither ever got a chance to engage a big capital ship with them.

For his own question:
quote:

After Douglas MacArthur left the Philippines, who ordered the surrender of American forces in PI?



Wasn't it Johnathan Wainwright who gave the surrender?

Warspite1

....is the correct answer


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RE: Next quiz - 10/28/2011 2:12:50 PM   
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What was the USS Seraph’s other name? HMS Seraph (P 219)


Why did it have another name? Because General Henri Honoré Giraud (Codename Kingpin) flatly refused to deal with the British.

There was no US boat within 3,000 miles and eventually the RN agreed to appoint Captain Jerauld Wright USN to the command of Seraph for the operation. The boat became 'USS Seraph' and flew the USN ensign. The ship's company assumed American accents, which fooled nobody - including Giraud, who had been told of the deception by Wright.


Submarine HMS Seraph (Aka USS Seraph) (P 219) 10/19/42 - 10/25/42 Operation Flagpole: Embarked Major-General Mark Clark (USA) and Brigadier-General Lemnitzer (USA), three other senior US Army officers, Captain Wright, of the US Navy, and three British Commandos for small fishing village of Cherchell, about 82 miles (132 kilometers) west of Algiers, Algeria. 11/05/42 Operation Kingpin: As USS Seraph. Smuggled French General Henri Honoré Giraud out of Vichy France to Gibraltar.

Submarine HMS Sibyl (P 217) 8/11/42 - 11/11/42 Operation Kingpin: Rendezvoused on the south coast of France. Picked up four staff officers and officials, including one English woman (the wife of Captain Beaufré, Giraud's Chief of Staff), of French General Henri Honoré Giraud's staff and took them to Algiers.





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RE: Next quiz - 10/28/2011 7:04:45 PM   
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Because General Henri Honoré Giraud (Codename Kingpin) flatly refused to deal with the British.

Warspite1

Mmmm Giraud, less of a Kingpin, more of a dampsquib


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RE: Next quiz - 10/28/2011 8:32:14 PM   
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RE: Next quiz - 10/28/2011 8:34:48 PM   
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Which city in a neutral country did the USAAF bomb once in 1944 and once in 1945 - in broad daylight.
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A Swiss city? Basle?


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RE: Next quiz - 10/28/2011 8:35:41 PM   
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Which city in a neutral country did the USAAF bomb once in 1944 and once in 1945 - in broad daylight.
Warspite1

A Swiss city? Basle?


Right country, wrong city.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/28/2011 8:40:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Which city in a neutral country did the USAAF bomb once in 1944 and once in 1945 - in broad daylight.
Warspite1

A Swiss city? Basle?


Right country, wrong city.
Warspite1

Zurich then?


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RE: Next quiz - 10/29/2011 1:22:20 AM   
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RE: Next quiz - 10/29/2011 1:25:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL:  warspite1


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ORIGINAL:  Extraneous

Because General Henri Honoré Giraud (Codename Kingpin) flatly refused to deal with the British.

Warspite1

Mmmm Giraud, less of a Kingpin, more of a dampsquib



British Submarines of World War Two

As a post-script to the story, Giraud had no intention of making a political broadcast to rally the French on the lines suggested by General Eisenhower. Although he was eventually to lead the French Division in North Africa (he had expected to be made Allied Commander-in-Chief) the real purpose of his rescue was therefore not achieved. Churchill said later:- "No one was more deceived than he about the influence he had with the French governors, generals and officer corps in North Africa."




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RE: Next quiz - 10/29/2011 3:02:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: paulderynck


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Which city in a neutral country did the USAAF bomb once in 1944 and once in 1945 - in broad daylight.
Warspite1

A Swiss city? Basle?


Right country, wrong city.
Warspite1

Zurich then?


Nope. It was a navigational error but not that far south.

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RE: Next quiz - 10/29/2011 1:36:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it was Basel, something to do with a  mistake regarding the trainstation (southern part Swiss, norther part Germany). However, I thought the US only made this mistake once, and it wasn't a large raid (only some Fighter Bombers attacking a train on the Swiss part of the trainstation...).

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