Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

^ Whilst your system is by far the least intrusive, what I would like to see is no need to enter the serial number again for a patch - it's not like you can't get the serial number - you do store it on the system (I'm sure I saw it in the Registry)...so remove that requirement and it's really the least intrusive, least annoying, least cumbersome and most intelligent system out there.

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ORIGINAL: Yogi the Great

Dear Matrix,

Please never, ever I repeat NEVER consider using steam for your games!

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ORIGINAL: J P Falcon

Well then I'm flummoxed as to why my serial numbers are automatically inserted.

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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

I download and install the patch manually

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ORIGINAL: Yogi the Great

Dear Matrix,

Please never, ever I repeat NEVER consider using steam for your games!

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

Without going into the old argument about steam itself,....... I will say that those who dont wish to use steam should do that,...and stop trying to prevent others from being able to use it. If you want to sit on the porch in your rocking chair talking about how great the "goold ole days" were, thats fine,...but please dont try and imprison those of us who dont mind living in the modern world there with you. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean you should try to prevent others from using it.

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ORIGINAL: J P Falcon

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

Without going into the old argument about steam itself,....... I will say that those who dont wish to use steam should do that,...and stop trying to prevent others from being able to use it. If you want to sit on the porch in your rocking chair talking about how great the "goold ole days" were, thats fine,...but please dont try and imprison those of us who dont mind living in the modern world there with you. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean you should try to prevent others from using it.

Here's the bottom line to this debate.....if you have a choice, why on earth would you want to have an internet connected game installer on your pc, if you can have the ability to simply download the setup files for a game, and install them anywhere you want whether you are connected to the internet or not (a 'la Matrix)? I understand that if there is a particular title you want, and it is only available via Steam, then go ahead and buy it. But to request a gaming company to abandon their simple install approach and go the Steam route makes absolutely no sense, unless you are employed by Steam of course......

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ORIGINAL: Goragg

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ORIGINAL: J P Falcon

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

Without going into the old argument about steam itself,....... I will say that those who dont wish to use steam should do that,...and stop trying to prevent others from being able to use it. If you want to sit on the porch in your rocking chair talking about how great the "goold ole days" were, thats fine,...but please dont try and imprison those of us who dont mind living in the modern world there with you. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean you should try to prevent others from using it.

Here's the bottom line to this debate.....if you have a choice, why on earth would you want to have an internet connected game installer on your pc, if you can have the ability to simply download the setup files for a game, and install them anywhere you want whether you are connected to the internet or not (a 'la Matrix)? I understand that if there is a particular title you want, and it is only available via Steam, then go ahead and buy it. But to request a gaming company to abandon their simple install approach and go the Steam route makes absolutely no sense, unless you are employed by Steam of course......

I don't remember asking Matrix to stop selling the way they do now.

I asked for a 'choice'.

I prefer a single provider of digital licensing. I don't want to have mutiple logins or serial numbers to save somehwere and then have to remember where I put them a year later. I don't want media that can be lost or damaged. I want to restore my pc or buy a new one and logn then install all my games. This is the conveniance steam supplies. I also get patches managed and updated by steam. I can play online or offline and communicate with other players. I also love that fact the game store is on my pc and in one place.

Yes Matrix games are expensive compared to other similar products. I attribute this to lack of volume sales. If a company like Paradox that creates similar titles can do well on steam I don't see why Matrix cannot. There is a world of potential new wargamers out there and the question is how can Matrix reach them?

I am not familiar with the investment required to sell on Steam. There may be a simple fiscal reason why not to. I just find it hard to believe that exposing your titles to over 3 millions concurrent users can be a bad thing. Civ5 requires Steam and is a gateway game to true wargaming.

I will not purchase any games from Matrix using the current method. I have been burnt before with sellers going under or no longer supporting my title. I have many other options out there so don't need to risk it. I only ask because as a wargamer I may enjoy some of these games and it would be nice if Matrix offered their products through my preferred source. It is in no way a requirement. If current Matrix customers are happy with the process and Matrix is not interested in the client base available through Steam then I wish you all the best and enjoy your games.

Have fun
Goragg

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ORIGINAL: J P Falcon

Here's the bottom line to this debate.....if you have a choice, why on earth would you want to have an internet connected game installer on your pc, if you can have the ability to simply download the setup files for a game, and install them anywhere you want whether you are connected to the internet or not (a 'la Matrix)? I understand that if there is a particular title you want, and it is only available via Steam, then go ahead and buy it. But to request a gaming company to abandon their simple install approach and go the Steam route makes absolutely no sense, unless you are employed by Steam of course......

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

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ORIGINAL: J P Falcon

Here's the bottom line to this debate.....if you have a choice, why on earth would you want to have an internet connected game installer on your pc, if you can have the ability to simply download the setup files for a game, and install them anywhere you want whether you are connected to the internet or not (a 'la Matrix)? I understand that if there is a particular title you want, and it is only available via Steam, then go ahead and buy it. But to request a gaming company to abandon their simple install approach and go the Steam route makes absolutely no sense, unless you are employed by Steam of course......

No,...the bottom line is actually.........we should each be able to make our own choice and not be limited just because you cant see why someone else would make a choice different than you.
While you like downloading setup files,..and entering serial keys,...not to mention finding the DVD the install file is on,....hoping it isnt scratched or cracked,...finding that serial key......entering it............... I would rather install steam and click on the title I own to downlaod and install it. So much easier, and never in any danger of being damaged or lost.
But as already mentioned the BIG point is the huge increase in customers and profit Matrix would see by having their games on steam.

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Most of those that I personally know who own HOI are wargame-lite type of people.....