Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

If it's not too late to change the convoy setup, I would like to recommend the following.

Keep the way you're shipping the Australia resources, one to Canada and one to the UK (cost, 15 CP)

Ship the 3 Venezuelan oil and the 5 Canadian resources to the UK cost (27 CP)

Two from British Guyana, across Cape Verde, and then up Cape St Vincent and the Bay of Biscay (cost, 8 CP)

One from India, around the coast of Africa (cost, 8 CP)


Ship 3 from South Africa, through the gulf of Guinea and up the coast (cost, 12 CP)

This gives you full production for only 70 CP. For oil....



Put two CP in each of the Bay of Bengal and the East Indian Ocean; this lets you both ship the two NEI oil to India, and to trace directly to the Burmese oil. Unless you lose Kuwait (or the soviets invade) you can rail the Buesher oil directly into Egypt or Kuwait and use that for reorg, (you'll need a CP in either the red sea or the persian gulf. This nets you full production, 4 oil a turn for reorg, all 3 food in flames countries (I think I'm doing Food in Flames right, but I'm not entirely sure) You'll have 7 CP to either help the French with or hold in reserve, plus whatever you pick up from the minors.


Don't worry too much about what this leaves open to the Japanese, they're not going to declare war on you before the Germans attack the Dutch and the Belgians, which frees up two more resources that are easy ships, and the CP to use them. You can then abandon your operation with the NEI if it feels too hot and just trace drectly to the British Guyana oil, or do the thing with shipping the Venezuelan oil to canada. You can also attack Portugal for their resource. (Won't work if the Germans go into the Med, but setting up, the British have no way of knowing that.)


Hope this helps somewhat.

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New Game for 09.02.05

US Entry Markers:
2 to Ge/It Pool: (2238 [4], 2075 [3])
1 to Ja Pool: (2688 [4])

Turn 1 S/O '39
Axis Initiative +2

Impulse: 1
Weather: 4
Germany DOW Poland (CW); USE-8 (+1 chit, 2345 [3])
CW set up Poland using the * Delay Defence
Japan aligned Siam; USE-1 (+1 chit, 2698 [4]

Germany: Land
Italy: Combined
Japan: Land

Italy sends NAV to E. Med 4 Box
Italy sails loaded CL from Taranto to E. Med 3 Box
Germany conducted Ground Strikes on Warsaw and Lodz (4 of 4 units disorganized)
Japan conducted a Ground strike on Changsha (2 of 2 units disorganized)

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ORIGINAL: Titan

Is there an option to have hex's under ones control shaded instead of the flags, the flags i find look abit distracting and busy. That would be my preference anyway plus the nice art works gets abit less obvious with those flags.

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ORIGINAL: Ur_Vile_WEdge

Is there any way we can see the German setup? I'm curious as to how you divided your forces East and West.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

There's hole in the middle of the line! You need to move units to plug the gap.

China isn't going to attack any time soon (i.e., within the next 2 years). So although the Japanese 1-4 marine unit is vulnerable in the south, China can't afford to attack unless it could somehow gather 3 or more units. Basically, China should only focus on defense, with the slight possibility of a cavalry unit trying to do a Jeb Stuart ride around the Japanese rear areas.

In the north shift: the 4-2 one hex SW, move the 7-3 to Tungkwan, move Mao due W of the Japanese 4-1. This lets the Communists cover more of the center, freeing up the Nationalist units around Nanyang.

In the center: move the 3-4 to the hex due W of Ichang, move the 4-3 2 hexes SW, the 3-2 2 hexes west, and the 2-2 where the 3-2 use to be. The goal here is to retreat the first 3 of these units to the mountain hexes.

In the south: move the 5-3 and the 2-4 SW of the 3-1, the HQ 1 hex W, the 3-2 into the hex with the 3-1, the 4-3 goes 1 hex SW and the 1-3 moves 2 hexes W. The line still has a hole in the middle but the Japanese units are mostly slow movers so you will have a short respite before the Japanese can exploit through the gap.

What you want to do is force the Japanese to attack your units in the mountains. That doubles the strength of your units which has a wonderful effect on the combat results table.

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

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ORIGINAL: composer99

For Belgium given you expect Germany to hold Rotterdam I suggest two units in Antwerp and 1 in Liege.

Really, as long as Germany has the strength to secure Antwerp on the surprise impulse and has units in place to secure the Belgian resource hex, there is no real chance of stopping the Germans from getting across the Maas & the Dyle rivers.

But the above set-up at least slows down the seizure of Brussels. And if they flub the Antwerp attack, then the other Allies can even still get in there and slow them up even further.

That's a good point. I'll probably change my plans when I get that far. It also might depend on the weather . . . dunno.

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince
I forgot to ask: which two do you think should go in Antwerp, and which one in Liege? Or does it matter?

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ORIGINAL: composer99

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince
I forgot to ask: which two do you think should go in Antwerp, and which one in Liege? Or does it matter?

It's common to put the two INF in Antwerp and the CAV in Liege.

Unless the Germans are really weak in their attack on Antwerp (unlikely during a surprise impulse) it's not likely to make a big difference. Usually you're just hoping the attack die roll comes up really bad.

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

When I finally figured out how to get this to work the way it was intended to, it ended with 10 Destroyed French ships & only 3 Damaged Italian ships . . . there were a few aborted on each side, I believe. The big problem is I had to fiddle with things so that the French ships that survived (from the Italian Coast) could abort to Malta . . . which meant clearing out the INF that was there. This leaves Malta a bit of a temptation, should Italy decide to DOW the CW next time round. Which means the CW may have to act pre-emptively.

I shouldn't complain too much. This is what we do when debugging. We run into a problem, figure out how many ways it manifests itself, then find a way around it. We report the whole thing, and Steve works his magic. My problem was that this was a bug that showed up last week, that Steve warned us about, and I simply forgot about it until I was in a situation where I needed to find a solution or start the whole game over again. My mistake, and I paid for it with time and energy.

However, as I said, it did finally teach me the reason why Japan needs its O-chit to gain surprise on the US and/or CW. Those extra Surprise Points you get (technically the opponent doesn't get) are astoundingly useful, even if you start at about even odds. Granted, the French probably shouldn't have sailed as they did, but I wasn't yet aware of what the consequences would be.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

When I finally figured out how to get this to work the way it was intended to, it ended with 10 Destroyed French ships & only 3 Damaged Italian ships . . . there were a few aborted on each side, I believe. The big problem is I had to fiddle with things so that the French ships that survived (from the Italian Coast) could abort to Malta . . . which meant clearing out the INF that was there. This leaves Malta a bit of a temptation, should Italy decide to DOW the CW next time round. Which means the CW may have to act pre-emptively.

I shouldn't complain too much. This is what we do when debugging. We run into a problem, figure out how many ways it manifests itself, then find a way around it. We report the whole thing, and Steve works his magic. My problem was that this was a bug that showed up last week, that Steve warned us about, and I simply forgot about it until I was in a situation where I needed to find a solution or start the whole game over again. My mistake, and I paid for it with time and energy.

However, as I said, it did finally teach me the reason why Japan needs its O-chit to gain surprise on the US and/or CW. Those extra Surprise Points you get (technically the opponent doesn't get) are astoundingly useful, even if you start at about even odds. Granted, the French probably shouldn't have sailed as they did, but I wasn't yet aware of what the consequences would be.

Attacking the French naval is dangerous for the Italians. The reason is that if you just wait until VIchy is declared virtually the entire French navy becomes Vichy. So all the BPs lost by the Italians in fighting the French navy can be considered an unnecessary waste. Of course if you have something that needs to be done by the Italians in the Med before Vichy is declared, then its not a total waste. The other risk to the Italians right now is that the Commonwelath can DOW them and gain suyrprise on the Italian navy which is out at sea: what goes around comes around.

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ORIGINAL: Centuur

If there is a Japanese Land unit in Canton, this attack can be risked, provided this unit is a corps/army and moves to the place where the 5-3 is at this moment, and if you're prepared to risk getting a flipped unit OOS in a woods hex. If not: don't since the loss of Canton and the forced rebasing of the Fleet/air units there results in disorganising those units and that costs oil, which is precious to the Japanese. You have to reconquer the hex and that means another US entry roll for the city. The factory isn't probably of interest of you, but if you're convoy lines are getting the Hainan resource to Canton and not further to Japan, you'll lose a Production Point. Not a very good thing to happen early in the game.

Also, I don't like the position of the Japanese Marine Division at all. It is all alone out there and can be put out of supply. I don't know if there's a Japanese unit left in Hainan, but if there isn't, the Chinese can recapture the minor port and make this division an immobile one. Personally I think you're a little to opportunistic at this part of the front.

Now, that very nice 8-3 north of there (three land units?) is the one who should move south, making life very difficult for Mr. Chiang, if he is able to get an attack on that very nice oil barrel with hopefully a low combat factor Chinese land unit underneath (if not, forget about attacking...). Even with an attack succesful here, you shouldn't be willing to lose Canton.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

The 5-3 attacking the 1-3 is very dangerous. There are 1/1 results on the 5:1 table (1D10), even a 1/R result on the Blitz table. What the Japanese front in the south look like if the 5-3 dies?

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

Does anybody else feel like they are burning up brain cells whenever they play WiF in any of its versions? MWiF, CWiF, WiF FE, etc.

Maybe it's just that I'm sick right now, but I'll tell you, this game uses more brain power than any other game I know. In fact, it may be the trigger we need for the next step in human evolution!!!
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Edit: By the way, this is my home town of Bangor, and believe it or not, the rail does actually split just like it is shown on the map. I was very impressed by that.