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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/11/2011 12:19:56 AM   
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19. A command system that is bit more straight forward when one wants give individual orders.



Hi! MR

I strongly recommend "A command system that can give individual orders".

I played "Operation Spring Awakening (1) March 9, 1945- hungary" just now. My platoon sneaked into the villiage for scouting. The leader squad mounted into the house first, and I wanted another squad far away to rush into the house. But first I must give RUSH ORDER to the leader squad which had mounted into the house, then the other squads could RUSH.

The current command system is "the squad act what the leader is acting", but sometimes the squads need the action themselves independently.

Thanks!

I'm playing a random campaign using dazoline II's mod that allows for easy use of custom units. In the campaign, I have each unit as an separate platoon. By doing this, I have full order menus available in each turn for each unit, and I have no need for a reaction phase, as I play at 40:0 turn structure. I've also played a 60 second turn game for more of a CMBB feel.

It worked great!

I also removed all the "1/2/1-2" style naming and gave each unit a unique common name. For example, my three halftracks have the names of famous preachers: I have "Oral Roberts," "Jimmy Swaggart," and "Robert Tilton" commanding them. This makes the message box very personal and immediately relevant. It is also more fun, especially if Oral Roberts achieves veteran driving status or if Robert Tilton earns a War Merit Badge.

I must say that this campaign so far has been the most deeply satisfying experience playing PC, of any version.

But I seriously want the command view back for buttoned tanks!



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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/15/2011 7:08:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think I would like to see the gun penetration to be represented by mm at a range chart like in CMx1 or with a circular chart where you can scroll through and select your target tank and have the penetration data represented. Something like what Mobius posted way back in the STuG thread. I find that what is shown now takes away from the immersion factor of the game. Might be nice to have a button so that when you have one of your own guns/tanks selected and you hover over the target you would bring up this chart.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/18/2011 7:43:08 PM   
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I would like to have the ability to restrict visibility height when creating a pbm , such as locking it to the commanders view. This I believe would add considerably to the challenge and realism of pbm battles. I realize a lot of folks won't like that idea but I believe ( hopefully )some will.


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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/19/2011 1:26:16 AM   
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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/19/2011 2:56:22 AM   
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One thing that drives me nuts is the mini map doesnt move right with the camera.


the mini-map is fixed with north to the top. this way the random battle briefings have a point of reference. the camera cone should follow the cam view reasonably close. though I think it was reported that it can be slightly off.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/29/2011 5:10:18 PM   
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Ability to click on spotted enemy unit and have some indication of what friendly units are can see it.
When I click on one of my units, only enemy units it can see appear on the map. I would like a toggle or something so that if I click on an enemy unit, only units on my side that are in visual contact appear (or some other way to see who sees what).

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/29/2011 6:57:29 PM   
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Wish list addition (if it's not already in here someplace)

Ability to click on spotted enemy unit and have some indication of what friendly units are can see it.
When I click on one of my units, only enemy units it can see appear on the map. I would like a toggle or something so that if I click on an enemy unit, only units on my side that are in visual contact appear (or some other way to see who sees what).

That' a popular wish. I wanted as far back a PCK.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/29/2011 8:29:03 PM   
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.. this one particular missing feature "transport AT/Infantry guns" is a game stopper for him.
This is on some to-do list, but I'm not sure which one.
Towing AT guns into postion and setup would be nice but it isn't in every show.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/30/2011 2:39:33 AM   
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I'm trying to convince my brother to get PCO so we can do some PBEM'ing. He's hardcore Combat Mission, and this one particular missing feature "transport AT/Infantry guns" is a game stopper for him. Sure hope it's included on the "to-do" list.



Tell him to just try the demo and then decide. If you look at the % of time in combat that an AT gun was moved, vs the % of times they weren't, I don't see the big deal. Of course, I'd like to move them too.

The main issue with them, for me, is campaigns.

Towing guns is on the list to be fixed but I wouldn't consider it even a speed bump let alone a deal breaker.

To each his own.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/30/2011 7:03:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		It would be much better if the infantry would enter buildings automatically (like CM)instead of mount/enter. Same for trenches/foxholes/vehicles.

One example. Yous squad is in a position that is very close to the house but cannot enter yet. Withinn 10 seconds they could enter automatically to cover.But no it ha s to pass another 40 seconds and during that the quad is mowed down after reaching the entry point and staying put. It is also not possible to enter a house from one direction and exit from another. something very basic in urban warfare!!! this is very painful as it is now...

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/30/2011 9:47:28 PM   
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It would be much better if the infantry would enter buildings automatically (like CM)instead of mount/enter. Same for trenches/foxholes/vehicles.

One example. Yous squad is in a position that is very close to the house but cannot enter yet. Withinn 10 seconds they could enter automatically to cover.But no it ha s to pass another 40 seconds and during that the quad is mowed down after reaching the entry point and staying put. It is also not possible to enter a house from one direction and exit from another. something very basic in urban warfare!!! this is very painful as it is now...


You can order your units to move and mount. if it moves close enough to the building, it will mount automatically.

Thanks
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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 6/30/2011 11:16:55 PM   
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It would be much better if the infantry would enter buildings automatically (like CM)instead of mount/enter. Same for trenches/foxholes/vehicles.

One example. Yous squad is in a position that is very close to the house but cannot enter yet. Withinn 10 seconds they could enter automatically to cover.But no it ha s to pass another 40 seconds and during that the quad is mowed down after reaching the entry point and staying put. It is also not possible to enter a house from one direction and exit from another. something very basic in urban warfare!!! this is very painful as it is now...


You can order your units to move and mount. if it moves close enough to the building, it will mount automatically.

Thanks
rick


Sometimes they do; sometimes they don't.



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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/1/2011 4:42:09 AM   
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It would be much better if the infantry would enter buildings automatically (like CM)instead of mount/enter. Same for trenches/foxholes/vehicles.

One example. Yous squad is in a position that is very close to the house but cannot enter yet. Withinn 10 seconds they could enter automatically to cover.But no it ha s to pass another 40 seconds and during that the quad is mowed down after reaching the entry point and staying put. It is also not possible to enter a house from one direction and exit from another. something very basic in urban warfare!!! this is very painful as it is now...


You can order your units to move and mount. if it moves close enough to the building, it will mount automatically.

Thanks
rick


Sometimes they do; sometimes they don't.




I'm not sure what you mean HintJ. You should be able to plot a movement and if the movement path ends on a building the rubberband should turn pink. When the unit executes the movement, it should automatically mount when it reaches the building, unless the building is already occupied up to it's capacity.

Is that not happening?

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/1/2011 4:27:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I experienced is that they dod not. they stood there in the open. I might have to try it some more times.

The proble of entering one side and leaving at the other still exists. I am also an airsoft player and in "urban" scenarios we often enter/exit through the windows...


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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/1/2011 5:10:27 PM   
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The proble of entering one side and leaving at the other still exists. I am also an airsoft player and in "urban" scenarios we often enter/exit through the windows...



Yes, that is one issue we will need to look at in future releases. There are a number of issues to be looked at when we work toward more combat in urbanized areas.

If you have a saved game where the unit doesn't enter the building please upload and we can take a look.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/1/2011 6:50:04 PM   
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The proble of entering one side and leaving at the other still exists. I am also an airsoft player and in "urban" scenarios we often enter/exit through the windows...
Yeah, I can see someday that if you press dismount for a unit you would get a rubber band to string out from the house position to the direction you want to dismount. Seems do-able.


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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/1/2011 9:22:49 PM   
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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/1/2011 9:51:40 PM   
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Why not just enter/exit automatically like in CM?
I don't know what that is. Is it unlimited occupancy?

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/1/2011 10:29:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		No. You just make a new go/run/crawl whatever moving order into a building and the squad automatically enters. Same with exit. You just set the squad to go somewhere and they exit the building in the shortest path to the destination.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/2/2011 12:50:53 AM   
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No. You just make a new go/run/crawl whatever moving order into a building and the squad automatically enters. Same with exit. You just set the squad to go somewhere and they exit the building in the shortest path to the destination.
There's a big difference in just being inside a building and being in a position to defend from it. You can stack people in there like sardines but it doesn't do the defense of the position any good. Mounting gets men into defense positions.

But it would be good to unmount in different directions.


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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 7/2/2011 3:33:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		It would also be good, if you were assaulting, to forgo the stacking limits. As you said, men can be stacked in a building like sardines and attackers are more worried about numbers than they are good defensive firing positions.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 11/1/2011 8:46:50 PM   
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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 12/2/2011 11:38:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is my favourite game (specially now with a new computer . However, a few small changes can improve the playing experience:

1-it would be good to show an explanation of the special abilities (by medals) of an unit passing the cursor over it or in unit specifications. In this way we don´t need to consult the manual during a battle.

2-The "Boot Camp" 1st scenario is pretty hard for a beguinner IMHO. This is one of the first games everyone play, because of this some people could have a bad impression of PCO.

3-The orders Engage-hold=Defend stay and Engage-Facing=Defend-Facing are the same. It can be simplified.

4-A right click on an unit should be possible to show the orders menu.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 12/2/2011 2:54:05 PM   
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3-The orders Engage-hold=Defend stay and Engage-Facing=Defend-Facing are the same. It can be simplified.
Not exactly. With Engage you get egg-roll. With Engage you can order that unit and the others in the unit to move further or engage selected targets. With Defend other units can move, but slower and cannot choose their own targests. There is more of a difference in these two orders for Soviets than Germans because changing base orders causes the Soviets to delay a half phase.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 12/2/2011 5:00:57 PM   
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This is my favourite game (specially now with a new computer . However, a few small changes can improve the playing experience:

1-it would be good to show an explanation of the special abilities (by medals) of an unit passing the cursor over it or in unit specifications. In this way we don´t need to consult the manual during a battle.


We're glad you're enjoying this game. we like it too. I agree this would be good information. I still have to dig out the manual and read these too. adding this info when cursoring over the medal would be a good addition.

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4-A right click on an unit should be possible to show the orders menu.

Thanks


if the unit is selected already, a right click will bring up the orders menu. But you're right, if the unit isn't selected the right click does not select the unit. In the back of my mind, I thought there was a reason for this, the unit not getting selected with a right click, but I don't recall what that reason was right now. But if you do select a unit (for example in the HUD at bottom, or using the NEXT UNIT key, then a right click will bring up the orders.

It's been a little quiet here, but the team is still working on making some improvements for the next patch.

Thanks!
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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 12/2/2011 8:48:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another interesting addition would be to show the type of terrain were a selected unit is located. I know you can do it with LOS or key 5, but a small symbol (wood, light forest, etc) close to the unit description would be faster and useful in some circumstances.

At the moment it´s not possible to make random maps, though I still remember the old times when I used to play quick battles with ramdom maps in CMX1. Every game was totally different . You know what I mean. Maybe one day in the future... Who knows. That´s something I will always miss.

Happy to know you´re making some improvements . Personally I consider the graphics are good enough. The game is close to perfection: needs small changes and specially more maps.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 12/3/2011 12:28:26 AM   
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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 12/3/2011 10:18:39 AM   
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There are HUD symbols, the tree and house.



I know. But I mean one different for every specific type of terrain: Light woods, heavy woods, brush, etc.

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RE: Ok WISHLIST TIME after seeing & playing game - 12/3/2011 6:19:03 PM   
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