New York Times does Yamamoto

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

New York Times does Yamamoto

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> New York Times does Yamamoto

Page: [1]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/7/2011 9:07:21 AM

jeffs

Posts: 644
Joined: 2/19/2004
From: Tokyo
Status: offline

Big (and decent) article/editorial on Yamamoto...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/opinion/a-reluctant-enemy.html?pagewanted=1&hp

While we might take it for granted here...most Americans have never realized he was personally
against going to war (with the US)

_____________________________

To quote from Evans/Peattie`s {Kaigun}
"Mistakes in operations and tactics can be corrected, but
political and strategic mistakes live forever". The authors were refering to Japan but the same could be said of the US misadventure in Iraq

Post #: 1

RE: New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/7/2011 9:22:52 AM

Apollo11

Posts: 24082
Joined: 6/7/2001
From: Zagreb, Croatia
Status: offline

Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: jeffs

Big (and decent) article/editorial on Yamamoto...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/opinion/a-reluctant-enemy.html?pagewanted=1&hp

While we might take it for granted here...most Americans have never realized he was personally
against going to war (with the US)

He did live in the USA so he knew that it was suicide (but Japanese honor code dictated that he did fight with all vigor he had)...

Leo "Apollo11"

_____________________________

Prior Preparation & Planning Prevents Pathetically Poor Performance!

A & B: WitW, WitE, WbtS, GGWaW, GGWaW2-AWD, HttR, CotA, BftB, CF
P: UV, WitP, WitP-AE

(in reply to jeffs)

Post #: 2

RE: New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/7/2011 2:48:38 PM

Grotius

Posts: 5798
Joined: 10/18/2002
From: The Imperial Palace.
Status: offline

The Times also has an interesting front-page story about the aging Pearl Harbor association. This year marks the last time they're going to organize get-togethers at the memorial. They're all getting to old to travel, etc. A poignant story.

_____________________________

(in reply to Apollo11)

Post #: 3

RE: New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/7/2011 9:46:16 PM

dr.hal

Posts: 3335
Joined: 6/3/2006
From: Covington LA via Montreal!
Status: offline

Interestingly only a few hundred Pearl vets will be there today.... time moves on no matter what... Hal

(in reply to Grotius)

Post #: 4

RE: New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/7/2011 10:03:03 PM

jeffk3510

Posts: 4132
Joined: 12/3/2007
From: Kansas
Status: offline

Local news was comparing 9/11 to Pearl Harbor. I told them they were a bunch of fools to even consider comparing the two.

Yamamoto is a need person to study if you ask me.

_____________________________

Life is tough. The sooner you realize that, the easier it will be.

Currently chasing three kids around the Midwest.

(in reply to dr.hal)

Post #: 5

RE: New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/7/2011 10:46:11 PM

Nikademus

Posts: 25684
Joined: 5/27/2000
From: Alien spacecraft
Status: offline

why do you say that? (comparison)

_____________________________

(in reply to jeffk3510)

Post #: 6

RE: New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/7/2011 11:04:35 PM

mdiehl

Posts: 5998
Joined: 10/21/2000
Status: offline

quote:

This year marks the last time they're going to organize get-togethers at the memorial. They're all getting to old to travel, etc. A poignant story.

I agree. Poignant. The only thing I can think of, that is similar, is reading accounts of the Last Encampment of the Grand Army of the Republic.

Here's to 'em.

_____________________________

Show me a fellow who rejects statistical analysis a priori and I'll show you a fellow who has no knowledge of statistics.

Didn't we have this conversation already?

(in reply to Nikademus)

Post #: 7

RE: New York Times does Yamamoto - 12/8/2011 8:21:24 AM

CaptBeefheart

Posts: 2301
Joined: 7/4/2003
From: Seoul, Korea
Status: offline

Good piece. Maybe the NYT readers will learn some history. Ian Toll's "Six Frigates" is an excellent book on the beginnings of the U.S. Navy.

Cheers,
CC

_____________________________

Beer, because barley makes lousy bread.

(in reply to mdiehl)

Post #: 8