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RE: June Swoon - 12/1/2011 10:52:31 PM

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Real Life has been very intrusive lately but things are winding down until January ...

Ok we sort of agreed to this code of bushido thing with the submarines but my early victories and lucky die rolls has the IJ player sitting his subs right up next to Cox's Bazzar. Now the first thing that comes to mind is to mine but think potentially 48 betty's , 48 Nells. 48 sally's .. the minelayers do not stnad a chance. Until I get Cox Bazzar up to level 1 airfield no cap, no cap no ability to protect the suicide xAKL. No airfield and no supplies moving toward Akyab. Quite a pickle I am in ..

On the other hand my airfield are getting build up in other places in Burma getting ready for a Jan 43 offensive. I am also bombing oil derrecks this turn ..I would think soon the IJ will react but for now he does not have the reosurces and is focused on Akyab.
I suspect the KB and SAG are up to no good .. everybody is leaving for safer waters ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/2/2011 10:02:28 PM

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The night comes and the BB's take thier toll on Tarawa:

Naval bombardment of Tarawa at 136,128

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Haguro
CA Tone
CL Kitakami
CL Yura

Allied ground losses:
225 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 6
Port supply hits 1

Actaully this is a pretty good die roll I have had 1K causualites from bombardment .. but 3 guns taken out that will have to be replaced someday.

Our Dutch Subs in Japan find a target:

ASW attack near Koshiki-jima Retto at 98,60

Japanese Ships
DMS W-18, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXV

Nothing earth shattering but it was nice to see an escort sink ..

The second attack mised ..

ASW attack near Tokara Retto at 99,62

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-16
SC CHa-4

Allied Ships
SS KXV

When the monring comes the IJ have slightly less oil going to the home islands ..

Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 62
Hudson IIIa x 12
Wellington Ic x 16

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged

Oil hits 89

This game is funny sometimes .. I set Naval attack with a airfield attack backup .. too many fighters to go after the BB's so they take on the Kaga and Akagi in LRCAP over Makin ...

Afternoon Air attack on Makin , at 136,125

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 6
B-26B Marauder x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead

My B26's at Tabiteua have been squished ..

This is significant .. either a AMC or IJN SS is operating south southwest of Colombo ... this wil have to be investigated ....

Radio transmissions detected at 25,60.
More later ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/2/2011 11:50:16 PM

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Well the picture below shows it all .. 2 Dutch submarines running escort for the KB

A BB SAG sitting in the shallow waters of Tarawa .. at least like Alfred mentioned .. I have given the KB something to do ... I suspect they will sit there to prevent any supplies from getting to Tarawa or Tabetuea ...

At Tabetura we have 100 fighers ready to stage when the time is right ... I would not mind exchaging a few fighters with the KB ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/3/2011 12:02:54 AM

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India/Burma:
Move one of two Command HQs to Chittagong. They pull in an extra 25k worth of supply. Then, start prepping that same Command HQ for the first major base in Burma you expect to attack. It can add up to 90% adjusted AV when you attack. Once you get the extra supply at Chittagong, you can increase what you requirements at Cox's Bazar. Remember that supply over trails doesn't move every day. You are in Monsoon season (mid-May to mid Oct). Of course, expand the base will help draw in supplies.

I train up Wellington in ASW and would have them focus their search down to Cox's Bazar only. You got your CL that is a minelayer (spd 35 plus) that can run in and mine the base at full speed from Calcutta.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/3/2011 12:13:38 AM

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India/Burma:
Move one of two Command HQs to Chittagong. They pull in an extra 25k worth of supply. Then, start prepping that same Command HQ for the first major base in Burma you expect to attack. It can add up to 90% adjusted AV when you attack. Once you get the extra supply at Chittagong, you can increase what you requirements at Cox's Bazar. Remember that supply over trails doesn't move every day. You are in Monsoon season (mid-May to mid Oct). Of course, expand the base will help draw in supplies.
I train up Wellington in ASW and would have them focus their search down to Cox's Bazar only. You got your CL that is a minelayer (spd 35 plus) that can run in and mine the base at full speed from Calcutta.

Ohhhhhhhhh .... now that is a strategy .. I did not think about a quick mining operation .. I will need to check what CL does this mining ..

I need a level one airfield at Cox's Bazzar .. once I have CAP it will be a lot more dangerious to run unescorted Betty's to torp my xAKL's ..it is something I should have done instead of Akyab

I do have HQ's preping for the planned attack on Magwe and one prepping for Mandaly .. the units also ... a third prong will strke from Ledo ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/3/2011 12:19:35 AM

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Here she is....

The Command HQs have special capabilities that you should not overlook.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/3/2011 12:32:40 AM

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Here she is....

The Command HQs have special capabilities that you should not overlook.

She is one turn from calcutta now .. great idea!

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RE: June Swoon - 12/3/2011 10:47:33 PM

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********************** 19 JUN 1942 ************************************

The IJ have places a submarine in the perfect blocking spot to intercept traffic going into Calcutta ... unfortunately the Brits have destroyer escorts on S-122 takes the worse of it ..

ASW attack near Diamond Harbour at 51,38

Japanese Ships
SS I-122, hits 10, on fire

Allied Ships
AMC Cornwallis
AMC Pansy
xAKL Sigli
DD Griffin
DE Jumna
KV Hollyhock

The usual dud from a USN submarine ..

Sub attack near Kusaie Island at 126,115

Japanese Ships
AV Sanyo Maru
AV Kunikawa Maru
DD Tsuga

Allied Ships
SS Tautog

SS Tautog launches 4 torpedoes at AV Sanyo Maru

Ok Akyab ,,, the Lilly's come calling ..

Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 22 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6

I am not quite sure 22 damaged bombers is woth 6 runway hits .. I wil have to see the operational loses .. but the Lilly's are down to 43 from 48 ...

We probe Shwebo ..

Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 14000 feet

2 Oscars down ..

Another sweep yields no joy ..

Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet *

We hit the oil at Magwe again ..

Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Two more Oscars meet their fate ..

Afternoon Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 62
Hudson IIIa x 12
Wellington Ic x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 6 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged

Oil hits 66

Magwe is down to half oil production ..

Blenheim IV from No.11 Sqn RAF is written off

The KB and SAG move away this turn .. I wonder what they are up to?

More later ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/4/2011 2:31:18 PM

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******************************************** 20 JUN 1942 *******************

I was not careful in making sure I avoided teh subamrine trap at LA .. I usually go south first but a Convoy returning from PH automatically did not have the right waypoints set up and .. POW! we lose a xAK

Submarine attack near San Clemente Island at 223,79

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
xAK Clan Macilwraith, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

BTW) Fans that have been reading this thread should be saying WHAT!

I-26 was on fire and sinking a couple of months ago .. but she has come back to haunt us ..

However, the USN submarine force gets a lucky live torp ..

Submarine attack near Sapporo at 118,49

Japanese Ships
xAK Sikisan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Saury

xAK Sikisan Maru is sighted by SS Saury
SS Saury launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Sikisan Maru

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Submarine attack near Sapporo at 118,49

Japanese Ships
xAK Sikisan Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Saury

xAK Sikisan Maru is sighted by SS Saury
SS Saury launches 2 torpedoes

and we sink a full xAK ..

[swiming sounds in the background ..]

I need to tweak my air attacks some more .. but city attack is not availible as a second choice .. (ensure the air attack comes after sweeps) so .. either LRCAP or escort ..

Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 61
Hudson IIIa x 12
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
Wellington Ic x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 6 damaged
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged

Oil hits 68

68 oil hits on the small facility nearly shuts down the oil (we have just over 180 in three days)

The sweeps arrive after the bombers and we take out 3 Oscars ..

Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

PO Kirkpatrick M. of No.79 Sqn RAF attains ace status!!

Otherwise a quiet turn .. the IJ are quite frustrated that they are losing the airwar over Burma even though they are able to interdict on almost every front. The IJ have isolated Tarawa, reduced Akyab to a nonfunctional base that only eats supplies, and are ready to take PM ... but .. they are focused on the bombings in Burma ... I think it is because it reminds the IJ of what is to come next year ...

Heavy Transmissions out of Truk .. more BB's coming to visit Tarawa I suspect ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/7/2011 5:25:11 PM

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Take a day off for real life and one gets relgated to page two in a hurry ...

************************* 21 JUN 1942 ************************************

The night begins with even more IJN committment in Burma .. now CL's and DD's are reguarly bombing Akyab and Cox's Bazzar. It will not be as simple as mining these ports as it is likely a suface contact will occur ..

Night Naval bombardment of Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Japanese Ships
DD Uranami
DD Isonami
DD Shinonome
DD Ariake
DD Arashio
DD Akigumo

Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Night Naval bombardment of Akyab at 54,45

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma
CL Jintsu

Manpower hits 1
Fires 121

CL Kuma firing at RAF 221 Group Base Force
CL Jintsu firing at Akyab

The only other interesting air battle was over Salamaua. I thought the Zeros were based here and decided to hit the base ..

Morning Air attack on Salamaua , at 98,127

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 22

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1/B with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 21000
Raid is overhead

I will get a feel from the bombing recon of what if anything is based here ..

I suspect the IJNAAF will start to move resistance to try and stop my 4E's ...

Otherwise a very very quiet turn ..

I find WitP AE is a very interesting affair .. it is a movie or a play in a way rather than a game. The actors can play the parts with poetic license, but what happends in the end is pretty much not in doubt. Old Yeller still gets shot at the end of the movie .. especally scenario #1 .. I just cannot see a huge mistake that would change the eventually course of things in '44-'45 .. even with the most restrictive home rules and GreyJoy has shown in scenario #2 completely down and out -- the Allies super OOB allows for a complete thrashing ...

The key I beleive is to stay on course with the plan. The IJ just do thier thing but a good plan that forsees the resources coming in the future and knows where they are going rewards the Allied player. It just takes a long time for things to get there and for things to unfold .....

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RE: June Swoon - 12/7/2011 6:24:11 PM

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Akyab and Cox's Bazar:

I usually send 2 of my PBY groups to India. One goes to Colombo and the other to Diamond Harbor. The CW just doesn't have big enough naval search groups in their long range FPs. The one at Diamond Harbor should have its naval search narrowed down to cover Rangoon and some distant to the west to cover warships like you are seeing go to and from Cox's Bazar and Akyab. Now, I send my Dutch subs to India and have them patrol the coastline where you will see what you are having done to them. They are nimble enough that they usually just get damaged and can make it back for repairs. Look to see where his warships end up during the day phase after these nightly attacks and place subs there.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/7/2011 8:18:13 PM

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Akyab and Cox's Bazar:

I usually send 2 of my PBY groups to India. One goes to Colombo and the other to Diamond Harbor. The CW just doesn't have big enough naval search groups in their long range FPs. The one at Diamond Harbor should have its naval search narrowed down to cover Rangoon and some distant to the west to cover warships like you are seeing go to and from Cox's Bazar and Akyab. Now, I send my Dutch subs to India and have them patrol the coastline where you will see what you are having done to them. They are nimble enough that they usually just get damaged and can make it back for repairs. Look to see where his warships end up during the day phase after these nightly attacks and place subs there.

Excellent advice. I moved the VP101 to Attu Island in Alaska and put it under North Pacfic command thinking the Brit PA would be enough .. I just might have to move 2 CAT squadrons from PH back to the United States and on to Mombasa ..

The Dutch Submaines are patroling Japan (and doing a damn good job of getting xAK's -- with the short ranged 'O' class in the Gilberts / Marshalls ...

I will have to rethink this maybe in the coming days ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 3:54:28 PM

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As we approach July 42 this turn is about moving supplies to PH from the WC and stationing the USN in an undisclosed location within SOPAC. I started this movement ...

Most of the restored units have arrived and have started drawing replacements. The Indian's, British, and Aussies are producing 300 squads per month. That is about a division by my calculations. There is a huge pent up demand as units are upgrading while these are building back up. However, I am not engaged on the ground really so this will work out ..

Burma is quiet .. but a mess .. my inexperience really showed its ugly head here. I moved the 221 HQ for example to Akyab thinking that eventually with a level 7 airfield this entire group could be based here. The interdiction of the IJN and IJNAAF has reduced the supply so low that building has stopped. It will be quite awhile before Cox's Bazzar builds back up to a point to protect the peninsula from the Betty's and Nell's lurking at Moulumein. So, in the meantime I will be looking at the 221 - 225 airgroups and rethinking where to station the main RAF HQ's.

In the meantime I am executing airbase attacks on Mandalay and anywhere nearby that has an airbase > 3.

In Oz the 58 B-17E's will contunue to rain hell on earth on an IJA unit waiting for his buddy for an attack at PM. I am thinking the unit is fatgued from crossing moutianious jungle .. and being pounded from the air along with depletion of supplies. Low morale should be very helpful in the upcoming defense of PM.

More later when I get the combat turn back ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 4:20:40 PM

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Can you run some xAKLs to Akyab in amphib TF?

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 4:30:41 PM

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Can you run some xAKLs to�Akyab in amphib TF?�

I have been trying .. but a submarine and Betty's have sunk 4 so far .. I am going to try and run them to Cox's Bazzar first .. get the base built up and then build Akyab ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 4:55:36 PM

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********************************************** 22 JUN '42 *****************************************

Colombo:

Were going to lose 2 xAK's to a submarine setting next to columbo ...

Submarine attack near Colombo at 28,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
xAK Jaladurga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Jaladurga is sighted by SS I-32
SS I-32 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Jaladurga

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Submarine attack near Colombo at 28,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
xAK Kiangsu, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

But in repsonse the USN submarine force does its thing ...

Submarine attack near Woleai at 100,102

Japanese Ships
xAK Glasgow Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Greenling

xAK Glasgow Maru is sighted by SS Greenling
SS Greenling launches 4 torpedoes

Sub attack near Truk at 113,110

Japanese Ships
xAKL Katsuragisan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Tateyama Maru
PB Kyo Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS Gar

In other news the mighty Yamato fires her guns at Wenchow

Night Naval bombardment of Wenchow at 89,58

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato
CA Chokai
CA Chikuma
CL Oi
CL Natori

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2
Port hits 1

BB Yamato firing at 70th Chinese Corps
CA Chokai firing at Wenchow
CA Chikuma firing at 70th Chinese Corps
CL Oi firing at 70th Chinese Corps
CL Natori firing at 70th Chinese Corps

Wow a lot of shelling and supply to kill 35 Chineese ...

On the other hand .. we drop a lot of bombs to kill 32 LYB ..

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 12
B-17E Fortress x 26
LB-30 Liberator x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Just another note .. we keep getting more messages about sunk xAK's from battles past:

xAK Tatutaki Maru is reported to have been sunk near Balikpapan on Jan 17, 1942

A look at WitPTracker and some of the IJA/IJN landings did not go very well. This landing took the loss of 2 6200 unit xAK's full of arnament and supplies landing at Balikpapan ..

More later ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 9:40:47 PM

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China Sitrep:

I thought I would post a picture of China. Mainly because the gret yamato has demosntrated all its glory by bombardment of Wenchow ..

A close look shows 2 IJA Divisions vs. 4 Corps. I think the IJA are concerned because their last attack went very very badly and they are looking for better odds before attacking. IN the meantime we got a calling card from the IJN ..

The other area of focus is Ichang. 10 Corps are moving on 2 IJA units and will be in place in one game week. I believe a shock attack will dislodge the forces there and force him to come across the river to retake Ichung.

In reality this is all a side show. But the IJ has gotten concerned enough to devote forces and project power into the area. What I want to do is to attack burma and open the supply line. I believe I am 3 more months away from executing the plan toward this goal.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 9:43:13 PM

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A look at WitPTracker and some of the IJA/IJN landings did not go very well. This landing took the loss of 2 6200 unit xAK's full of arnament and supplies landing at Balikpapan ..

I wish I had knocked off some of Terry's landings, but never put more than a handful EJ marines in the drink. I had not thought of using the Dutch subs in that way. Hmmmmm. I used them at choke points in the DEI and lost several in harbor by two complete surprise raids. I am going to have to read some IJN threads on where they are shipping resources from the DEI and try and get at them.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 9:53:29 PM

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A look at WitPTracker and some of the IJA/IJN landings did not go very well. This landing took the loss of 2 6200 unit xAK's full of arnament and supplies landing at Balikpapan ..

I wish I had knocked off some of Terry's landings, but never put more than a handful EJ marines in the drink. I had not thought of using the Dutch subs in that way. Hmmmmm. I used them at choke points in the DEI and lost several in harbor by two complete surprise raids. I am going to have to read some IJN threads on where they are shipping resources from the DEI and try and get at them.

Starting with the very first turns of the game I used the USN and Dutch submarine force to interdict invasion forces. I got very lucky with the USN. Now combine this with some lucky shore battery hits and the IJ's plans were slowed considerably.

Now I have moved the Dutch to operate out of secret bases in CenPAC and patrol the Home Islands ..just a couple of sinkings there has a lot of reosurces escorting convoys ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 10:21:53 PM

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I have enclosed a snapshot from WitP Tracker. I have highlited in red where Dutch and USN submarines attacked ships full of troops and equipment. This had to impact the flow of the game. Then the Moulumien disaster where 6xAK's full of troops headed to attack Ragoon where sunk ...

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RE: June Swoon - 12/9/2011 10:25:10 PM

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nice kill on I-22 to. That Moulmein replay would have been fun to watch him watch.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/10/2011 3:31:12 PM

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nice kill on I-22 to. That Moulmein replay would have been fun to watch him watch.

I got to say it was satisfying from the standpoint of taking intellegence "unit moving to ..," where the unit was located, couting the hexes, setting up the patrol to detect when the ships arrive, gathering the forces, and then executing was a thrill ...

I hve gotten way behind on sending fuel to PH but in 4 turns 100K of fuel will be docked in three TF's. The probelm was loading up the AO's and just a few naval missions drains a lot of fuel. I used my TK's to get fuel to Sydney which takes a long time and by the time they return to LA .. its time to send more! Lot's of fuel goes from Abadan to Perth but it is still not enugh to feed OZ. Those Tanker losses are killers! I will take 2 weeks to send 200K plus of fuel to PH and then send a huge convoy to Sydney.

I know a lot of players shut down the factories in Oz. It has unintended consequinces. Like certain die rolls for aircraft production variation are affected by total HI. So nonintutively LA's aircraft outputs are affected by Sydney's HI. At least there is a thread disscusing a little side effect of shutting down Oz.

It does make me wonder what the IJ fuel situation is like. They have been executing continuious operations with the KB and all the BB's in huge bombardment surface action groups. I am frugal with all the fuel and supplies I have and I am of great want for fuel .. I cannot imagine the IJ keeping this pace of operations for very much longer

In other news I am gathering more TR's at Alice Springs. Until Tennant Creek gets built up it will not draw enough supply. [See Kfesgo's post in this thread]. Until enough supply gets to Tennant Creek the constrcution is very slow. It will take until early '43 to get the infrastructure in place to start the Darwin campaign. In the meantime we continue to build our launch points for the big corrdinated offensive ...

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RE: June Swoon - 12/10/2011 4:23:14 PM

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Burma:

below illistrates my comments above. Here a 3 BB SAG supported by CA's, CL's and DD's are sailing from Molumien to bombard. This has been an intensive operation for a couple of months now .. it has to be buring fuel .. at least I would like to believe that given the Allies current fuel situation.

If he does hit Chattadong it might do some damage but I am betting on the Darwin experience and losing ships to port defenses. I do have 20 squadrons on Naval attack including the ever so dangerious swordfish and wildebest squadrons! ..

The map gives a feel for the IJ deployments as of Jun '42. I can muster 3 full Corps by December '42 January 43 and begin an offensive.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/10/2011 5:00:40 PM

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******************************************* 23 JUN 1942 ***************************************

We dud on a convoy near Formosa ..

Submarine attack near Iriomote at 91,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Cheribon Maru

Allied Ships
SS Searaven

xAK Cheribon Maru is sighted by SS Searaven
SS Searaven launches 2 torpedoes

I forget to shut off my air attack on PM ..

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 14
B-26 Marauder x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Afternoon Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 9
B-17E Fortress x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson III (LR): 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Afternoon Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

So for about 100 LYB's killed we lose 4 Bombers and they lose a single zero OUCH! .. we have to rethink this one .. and move the medium bombers elsewhere ..

Tarawa took a hit this turn surprise!

Afternoon Air attack on Tarawa , at 136,128

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
G3M2 Nell x 9

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

These Nell's are sitting on Naval attack and have Tarawa as a secondary target.

More later ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/10/2011 6:45:58 PM

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Here is my list of ships I devote to moving fuel around the board. I break them down more by speed so you can combine them, as needed. The 16 and 17 knot ships can be formed in the same TF, but I don't usually put the 14 knot with the 17 speed ships.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/10/2011 7:39:09 PM

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I had things organized a bit unntil the IJN started raiding :)
But great info ny59giants!

Ok Tennant Creek has another month or so to build up to a level 3 airfield and the boys are digging in the level 3 forts .. try and remember ksfgo's post about moving supplies as a function of port/fort/airbase. We are executing against this plan. Although we messed the plan up by moving a division too early to Tennant Creek that is sucking up supplies ... but .. they will be moving south soon.

The IJ is shifting resources from theater to theater at will. What I want to do is start attacking Daily Waters at the same time of starting a limited offense in Burma and put pressure in the Solomons ..in a corrdinated move to put pressure on the IJ industrial base. I just do not think he can maintain the current level of operations and keep those factories going ...

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RE: June Swoon - 12/11/2011 3:46:45 PM

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A little look at Burma above and one can see an active airbase at Mandalay .. we decided to test the waters and send 3 fighter groups on a high sweep and 3 fighter groups at 100' and straffe the airbase. I suspect one flak group there but we shall see how many damaged airplanes we have at the end of this .. we also sent in 40 medium bombers to hit the airbase with 10 escorts ... Really I am just having fun with some pixels rather than thinking of some long term strategy in comitting these forces . but it will be fun if we can bag all 8 fighter aircraft just moved there this turn ..

We have decided to move the marine engineers to the land of OZ along with Seebees. They have been building up Pago Pago and now it is time to build up Alice Springs and more importanly Tennant Creek....This is a part of the long term plan .. eventually establishing the potential of B-29's at Darwin would open the possibility of turning loose strategic bombing and naval operations in the DEI. This will cause much consternation and open lots of possibilites for the Allies.

July will be a much more active month I think ..

For now .. establish the Gilberts ... Tabiteuea is now level 4 and is 2 weeks from level 5 at this pace. Level 5 means B-17's and stationing the V USAAF here.

That brings up the next part of the planning. I had Burma well planned but the IJ put a damper to things. So I have to replan where to station the RAF 221 - 225 Commands. Also it is time to start stationing the USAAF fighter and bomber commands.

Lots to do!

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RE: June Swoon - 12/11/2011 5:06:33 PM

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*************************************************** 24 JUN 1942 ***********************************************

Bad turn for the Allies .. rememberthose BB's and our Naval attack that did not go .. they came to visit Chittagong ..

Night Naval bombardment of Chittagong at 55,41 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 55 damaged
Blenheim IV: 6 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 11 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
Lysander II: 5 damaged
Lysander II: 3 destroyed on ground
Kittyhawk IA: 3 damaged
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed on ground
Hudson IIIa: 21 damaged
Hudson IIIa: 2 destroyed on ground
Wellington Ic: 17 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIc Trop: 4 damaged
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
CA Kumano
CA Takao

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 22 (3 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 35

So we lost 12 aircraft and another just under a hundred damaged .. he will come to visit over and over again reducing our air force here . I was hoping better from our CD ..

The bad part is that I did not move these airplanes ..

Our little guy at Cox's Bazzar did not get off a shot ..

Day Time Surface Combat, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
CA Takao
CA Kumano
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Ayanami
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
HDML 1104, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Submarine attack near Nikunau at 141,134

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
xAP Kota Radja, Torpedo hits 1

There escorted by 4 DD's but we did not repsond ..

The straffing missions did nothing .. planes on the ground did not come up but we could not hit them .

Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane I Trop x 16

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Hurricane I Trop sweeping at 22000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 3,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 10

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Hurricane IIb Trop strafing at 100 feet

Tarawa gets smacked again ..

Afternoon Air attack on Tarawa , at 136,128

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
G3M2 Nell x 9

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 10

That is about it for this turn ..

We will have to commit the fleet at Colombo to stop this little BB foray into Chittagong .. mines did not work . naval attack with airplanes did not fly so we are pretty helpless without teh RN ...in the meantime depending on things airplanes are stuck on the ground to get hit again and again ..bad move really to leave so many airplanes on the coast ..I just thought my CD guns would do a little more ..and he clearly has no fear even after Darwin ..

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RE: June Swoon - 12/11/2011 9:06:28 PM

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Well we have done a dunderheaded move letting the IJ bombard Chittergong ...

But as per the illistrations above in China we hae moved 3000 AV into Ichang. On June 27th we will shock attack and move teh IJA out of Ichang ..

A lot of Logitics this turn ..

The IJ wrote in an email that he is awash in fiuel and has a backlog .. thus infinite Naval operations .. Though I am a nurse by trade now .. I will have zero sympathy when '44 comes and the IJN have no fuel reserves

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RE: June Swoon - 12/12/2011 3:48:41 PM

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I need to delay the annimations more so I can grab some screen shots t make this a little more interesting. I should have the time from this point forward. For now .. its the same ol' dry combat reports

*********************************** 25 JUN 1942 **********************************

So the night brings some submarine activity ..

Submarine attack near Anatahan at 110,92

Japanese Ships
AMC Akagi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

Count one AMC thinking of interdicting shipping ...sunk ..

Then the Dutch do there thing near Nagoya .. 2 IJN DMS's come out to play ... only one survives ..

ASW attack near Hamamatsu at 110,63

Japanese Ships
DMS W-13, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS W-5

Allied Ships
SS O23

Come to find out .. they were escorting a xAK ...

Sub attack near Tsu at 108,63

Japanese Ships
xAK Myoko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DMS W-5

Allied Ships
SS O23

Count that one sunk ...

The Growler go cold with duds in the Marshall's ..

Sub attack near Nauru Island at 124,126

Japanese Ships
xAK Uga Maru

Allied Ships
SS Growler

SS Growler launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Uga Maru

In the air the Lilly's return to Akyab ..

Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 30
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 6 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

What is left of my bomber force in Burma practices bombing on Mandalay ..

Morning Air attack on Mandalay , at 59,46

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 5
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Kittyhawk IA x 4

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5

We test the reaction of fighters over Daily Waters ..

Morning Air attack on Daly Waters , at 76,131

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 11

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Fulmar II sweeping at 18000 feet *

So 1 xAk, 1AMC, and 1DMS find Davy Jones' locker ...

We shall continue to lay a mine field along the coast of Burma ... eventually we will be able to defend ourselves ...

A lot of logitics this turn we shall plan how to set up our airforce in Burma ..and the Pacific ..

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