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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 1:17:07 PM   
Olorin


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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 1:22:15 PM   
CT Grognard

 

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Status: offline 		The Japanese square division had on paper 25,000 men. Consisted of two infantry brigades consisting of two infantry regiments each.

Each infantry regiment consisted of three infantry battalions, so a square division had a total of 12 infantry battalions.

In addition to this there was one artillery regiment (with one 105mm battalion and four 75mm battalions), a cavalry battalion, an engineer battalion and a transport regiment.

The Japanese triangular division had on paper 20,000 men. Organisation almost identical to the square division except that as opposed to two infantry brigades, there were three infantry regiments with three infantry battalions each.

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 2:04:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		The number of Japanese divisions that met this criteria, even before the start of the war was fairly small - most divisions had anywhere from 4500 men to maybe 18,000 max, but they tended towards lower end of the scale as the war went on.

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 2:46:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Greyjoy,

It is now coming back to me. I was very drunk at the time but I am pretty sure that I slept with this woman in 1986...Either that or I had sex with a Wookie-for which I am not proud.....




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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 3:30:35 PM   
Karsten

 

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Status: offline 		At the end of the war this got al a bit more messed up
Example:
1937-1940 114th Division
• 127th Infantry Brigade
o 66th Infantry Regiment
o 115th Infantry Regiment
• 128th Infantry Brigade
o 102nd Infantry Regiment
o 150th Infantry Regiment
• 120th Field Artillery Regt
• 118th Cavalry Regiment
• 114th Engineer Regiment
• 114th Transport Regiment

1944 114th Division
• 83rd Infantry Brigade (199th, 200th, 201st, 202nd Independent Infantry Battalion)
• 84th Infantry Brigade (381st , 382nd, 383rd, 384th Independent Infantry Battalions)
• Labor troops
• Signal communication

The late war coastal defence unit were again square type:
143rd Division 1945
143rd Division was one of eighteen Coastal Defense Divisions raised by the Japanese to defend the coast of their homeland from an
anticipated Allied invasion, on the 28th of February 1945. Each Division of the series between 140 and 160 had four infantry
regiments. The 145th Division had 409th, 410th, 411th, and 412th Infantry Regiments with other artillery, engineer, antitank, rockert
artillery, and other divisional units.

Then there was also a type of binary (2 regimental) security versions.

All above is a summary based on several wikipedia entries

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 5:20:14 PM   
GreyJoy


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While our loadings continue at Bihoro (we had to stop for one turn and flee the port cause we feared another mass attack), Rader tried to set up another CAP trap at Ominato. this time we sniffed it and we let our bombers rest for one turn, leaving to our BBs to bomb Ominato. We lost 3 DMSs but more mines are now swept and 76 enemy's a/c are torched on the ground. We learnt not to fear those 200cm static guns that much when bombing from 30k yards.
The first wave is now almost loaded, while our CVs are getting closer to the theatre.
I've organized my CVs in TFs composed of 190 a/c each...so that we are well below the coordination penalty limit.
Each TF is following a surface TF which is following an ASW TF which is following a DD Division...hope this lower the chances of a sub attack and of a unwanted reaction by a single TF

1000 bombers and 1500 fighters are now spotted at Tokyo......time is running fast...and the day of truth is getting closer...



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TF 62 encounters mine field at Ominato (119,54) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

76 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
     DMS Hobson, Shell hits 3,  on fire
     DMS Palmer, Shell hits 8,  heavy fires,  heavy damage



Mutsu Bay Fortress firing at DMS Hobson
Mutsu Bay Fortress firing at DMS Palmer
23 mines cleared


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TF 68 encounters mine field at Ominato (119,54) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

159 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
     DMS Perry, Shell hits 19,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     DMS Lamberton, Shell hits 8,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
     DMS Southard, Shell hits 21,  heavy fires,  heavy damage



Mutsu Bay Fortress firing at DMS Perry
Mutsu Bay Fortress firing at DMS Lamberton
Mutsu Bay Fortress firing at DMS Southard
42 mines cleared


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Night Naval bombardment of Ominato at 119,54

Japanese aircraft
     no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M5 Zero: 39 damaged
     A6M5 Zero: 12 destroyed on ground
     Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 74 damaged
     Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 16 destroyed on ground
     Ki-100-I Tony: 26 damaged
     Ki-100-I Tony: 7 destroyed on ground
     A6M5c Zero: 12 damaged
     A6M5c Zero: 5 destroyed on ground
     J1N1-C Irving: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
     BB Washington
     BC Renown
     CA Exeter
     CA Louisville
     CA Portland

Japanese ground losses:
     231 casualties reported
        Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
        Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled
        Engineers: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled
     Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
     Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 53
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Washington
BB Washington firing at General Defence Army
BC Renown firing at Ominato
Walrus II acting as spotter for CA Exeter
CA Exeter firing at Ominato
CA Louisville firing at Ominato
CA Portland firing at Ominato


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Night Naval bombardment of Ominato at 119,54 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
     no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
     A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed on ground
     Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 damaged
     Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground
     A6M5c Zero: 7 damaged
     A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
     Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed on ground

24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
     BB Queen Elizabeth
     BB Valiant

Japanese ground losses:
     69 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 8 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
     Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
     Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3
Port hits 2

BB Queen Elizabeth firing at Ominato
Walrus II acting as spotter for BB Valiant
Mutsu Bay Fortress firing at BB Valiant
BB Valiant firing at Mutsu Bay Fortress




About my Paras...i only have a para division with me in the north...will use it at Hachinoe as soon as i see a chance for a shock attack

Crsutton...you lucky boy

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 5:25:26 PM   
cwDeici

 

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter


quote:

ORIGINAL: cwDeici

1 Division is about 3 regiments which are about 2 batallions a piece, so you're invading with 120 batallions over 100. Seems a bit shy considering Japan has much more left than OTL, very risky but definitely doable.



The US, like most countries used a triangular formation in WW II meaning that all subunits formed in threes. Three squads to a platoon, three platoons to a company, three companies to a battalion, three battalions to a regiment and three regiments to a division.

In late war Germany reduced infantry divisions to two battalions per regiment and eventually even reduced them to two regiments per division.

Don't know enough about Japanese force structure to be able address that aspect intelligently.

US force structure would reflect a standard of 9 battalions per division so Greyjoys estimate of 100 batallions equaling 12 divisions is accurate.

20 US divisions would equal 180 battalions. That would seem to be an impressive force for an invasion.




Thanks for the info!

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 5:28:02 PM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		About the strenght of my landing forces...guys, i didn't do all those calculations...this is simply everything i have to throw to him...so it was this or nothing.

Rader, after the last ground bombings at Hachinoe is clearly moving in all the AAs he has in Japan...i can clearly see it. So we're gonna try to exploit this and tomorrow we'll bomb Ominato AF and the troops stationing at Aika, while our navy will bomb again Hachinoe...will try to make his life the the hardest possible

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 5:35:05 PM   
Dan Nichols


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Status: offline 		Why keep losing DMSs at Ominato? If you are using BBs at 30K, then mines should not be a problem. Stop it.

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 5:40:33 PM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		To counter the shore batteries we'll find at Hachinoe i've very carefully formed our landing TFs.
Each TF will have dedicated fire platforms. so to say we'll have LSD, LVM, LCI (G) in every TF, with a BB, several DDs, SCs and APDs...i think my transports should be pretty much safe with these combinations. Obviously some of them will get hit and sink...but i think, with a decent support by our Bombardment TFs and by our 4Es we can efficiently suppress his shore guns....

The real problem remains the air threat...

I've done everything to provide a good cover. 1400 fighters are guarding the landings at Bihoro now, while 900 more are based at Hakodate.
When the landings will occur i'll have on LRCAP over my fleet more than 1500 fighters...this for sure won't assure the total safety of my ships...but at least i hope it will be enough to severly distrupt the enemy formations...however i think i cannot do more than that...

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 5:42:20 PM   
GreyJoy


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ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Why keep losing DMSs at Ominato? If you are using BBs at 30K, then mines should not be a problem. Stop it.


They remains a problem afaik. Last time we hit Ominato one of our CA (Luisville) was struk by a mine despite being set to bomb at 30k yards...

However now i have no more DMSs to spare so i'll be forced to stop

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 7:07:20 PM   
soticrandy

 

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Status: offline 		Too late for this but could GreyJoy have used the local mine sweepers in suicide mine sweeping task forces?

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 9:59:48 PM   
princep01

 

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Status: offline 		We're all gonna die.....might as well go out in a blaze of Honshu invading fun. Few can say....been there, done that. Have a great time, Ser Greyjoy!

princepBolton, hauling a Radio Flyer full of "fun and entertaining stuff" and sporting Mickey Mouse Ears, boards the USS New Jersey, a happy man. He mutters, "It's a great day to die".

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 10:15:32 PM   
JeffroK


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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Why keep losing DMSs at Ominato? If you are using BBs at 30K, then mines should not be a problem. Stop it.


They remains a problem afaik. Last time we hit Ominato one of our CA (Luisville) was struk by a mine despite being set to bomb at 30k yards...

However now i have no more DMSs to spare so i'll be forced to stop


This could also make rader wonder about the actual landing place, even a Division in the wrong place could make a big difference.

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:07:38 PM   
GreyJoy


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ORIGINAL: princep01

We're all gonna die.....might as well go out in a blaze of Honshu invading fun. Few can say....been there, done that. Have a great time, Ser Greyjoy!

princepBolton, hauling a Radio Flyer full of "fun and entertaining stuff" and sporting Mickey Mouse Ears, boards the USS New Jersey, a happy man. He mutters, "It's a great day to die".


Valar Morghulis my friend...all men must die

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:13:27 PM   
GreyJoy


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ORIGINAL: JeffK


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Why keep losing DMSs at Ominato? If you are using BBs at 30K, then mines should not be a problem. Stop it.


They remains a problem afaik. Last time we hit Ominato one of our CA (Luisville) was struk by a mine despite being set to bomb at 30k yards...

However now i have no more DMSs to spare so i'll be forced to stop


This could also make rader wonder about the actual landing place, even a Division in the wrong place could make a big difference.


Yes, altough i'm obviously concentrated on hachinoe, i'm trying to bomb all the possible landing sites in order to keep him busy guessing where i'm actually landing.

Last turn 17,18 august 1944 we bombed his troops at Aitka and Ominato, while my BBs pounded hachinoe...some skermishes with some jacks on lrcap but nothing too serious....our escort did it right (used a mix of LRCAP and escort this time).

We are now fully loaded and ready to move....let's go guys!!!!

A glorious defeat or a glorious victory is waiting for us....which of the two it doesn't really matter!!!!!

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:24:04 PM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		So guys here we go....tomorrow we'll leave bihoro with 795 ships....first step:kushiro

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:27:27 PM   
Grfin Zeppelin


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Installsendmeallyourdatavirus

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:36:48 PM   
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We're all gonna die.....might as well go out in a blaze of Honshu invading fun. Few can say....been there, done that. Have a great time, Ser Greyjoy!

princepBolton, hauling a Radio Flyer full of "fun and entertaining stuff" and sporting Mickey Mouse Ears, boards the USS New Jersey, a happy man. He mutters, "It's a great day to die".


I hate to be a downer but I want to go on record as this invasion failing. You folks can hold me to this. I can't exactly say why, but there are 500 Betty's unaccounted for, lots of kami's the KB, surface assets and a formidable opponent. I know he has something planned. I am routing for you GJ, and I wouldn't do much different (except land further south) but mark me in the "bridge too far" column. That being said, give em hell!! Time to put up guys, what do you think?

< Message edited by JohnDillworth -- 1/5/2012 11:37:10 PM >

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:38:09 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		I hereby go on record to say that the invasion will succeed. :)

That's the difference between John, a Yankee, and me, a Rebel. See, I'd set out to invade Maryland or Pennsylvania and think I'd succeed. John would be sure that I wouldn't. :)

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:40:26 PM   
Grfin Zeppelin


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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel


That's the difference between John, a Yankee, and me, a Rebel. See, I'd set out to invade Maryland or Pennsylvania and think I'd succeed. John would be sure that I wouldn't. :)




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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:43:00 PM   
beppi

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Why keep losing DMSs at Ominato? If you are using BBs at 30K, then mines should not be a problem. Stop it.


They remains a problem afaik. Last time we hit Ominato one of our CA (Luisville) was struk by a mine despite being set to bomb at 30k yards...

However now i have no more DMSs to spare so i'll be forced to stop


If you want you can ship the YMS from the west coast to japan and use them to sweep. You get a gazillion of them.

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:44:33 PM   
GreyJoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

quote:

We're all gonna die.....might as well go out in a blaze of Honshu invading fun. Few can say....been there, done that. Have a great time, Ser Greyjoy!

princepBolton, hauling a Radio Flyer full of "fun and entertaining stuff" and sporting Mickey Mouse Ears, boards the USS New Jersey, a happy man. He mutters, "It's a great day to die".


I hate to be a downer but I want to go on record as this invasion failing. You folks can hold me to this. I can't exactly say why, but there are 500 Betty's unaccounted for, lots of kami's the KB, surface assets and a formidable opponent. I know he has something planned. I am routing for you GJ, and I wouldn't do much different (except land further south) but mark me in the "bridge too far" column. That being said, give em hell!! Time to put up guys, what do you think?


I know john....don't think i don't know that...but the game has run so mch further that i don't have any other option...bore him (and me and you) to death with a 2years long strat bombing campaign or try the impossible and have fun for all of us!.


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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:47:23 PM   
Cribtop


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I believe that at a minimum GJ will get ashore, take Hachinoe (losses to air attack notwithstanding), and possibly even get the northern quartet of bases. Then again, we've never seen this attempted, so who really knows? Whether GJ could then march to Tokyo is up in the air, but even capturing the northern bases means the bombing campaign will have serious fighter escort throughout Japan.

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:53:08 PM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		Com'on guys...i know u all wanna see me trying!

And who else in my shoes wouldn't try it?

You john?
You krupp?
You Canoe?
You cribtop?
You crsutton?
You Dan?

...i know you all would try it...even if it's just to remain in the history of AE

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/5/2012 11:58:33 PM   
Cribtop


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Status: offline 		I'm already on record saying win or lose you'll always be famous in these parts. Go for it!

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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/6/2012 12:02:39 AM   
denisonh


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Status: offline 		You got where you are by doing somethings a lot of folks either didn't think of or wouldn't do. Don't stop now.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Com'on guys...i know u all wanna see me trying!

And who else in my shoes wouldn't try it?

You john?
You krupp?
You Canoe?
You cribtop?
You crsutton?
You Dan?

...i know you all would try it...even if it's just to remain in the history of AE



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RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/6/2012 12:33:26 AM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 17, 44
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Night Naval bombardment of Hachinohe at 118,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

78 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
     BB Queen Elizabeth, Shell hits 3
     BB Valiant

Japanese ground losses:
     93 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
        Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Night Naval bombardment of Hachinohe at 118,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

31 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
     BB Washington
     BC Renown, Shell hits 2
     CA Exeter
     CA Louisville
     CA Portland

Japanese ground losses:
     182 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
        Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 21 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
     Guns lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled)
     Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)



Manpower hits 3
Resources hits 2
Fires 9154
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 28
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1


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Morning Air attack on 3rd IJN Special Coastal Gun Battalion, at 117,55 (Akita)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     J2M3 Jack x 18
     Ki-100-I Tony x 14



Allied aircraft
     Liberator B.III x 15
     Liberator B.VI x 42
     Mosquito FB.VI x 2
     Wellington B.X x 15
     B-24D Liberator x 13
     B-24D1 Liberator x 20
     B-25D1 Mitchell x 32
     B-25H Mitchell x 62
     B-25J1 Mitchell x 15
     B-29-1 Superfort x 111
     P-38J Lightning x 19
     P-38L Lightning x 22
     F6F-3 Hellcat x 27
     PB4Y-1 Liberator x 35
     PBJ-1D Mitchell x 45
     PV-1 Ventura x 26


Japanese aircraft losses
     J2M3 Jack: 3 destroyed
     Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Mosquito FB.VI: 1 destroyed
     B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged
     P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed
     P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
     469 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
        Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 70 disabled
        Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
     Guns lost 83 (40 destroyed, 43 disabled)
     Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on Ominato , at 119,54

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes


Allied aircraft
     B-24J Liberator x 117
     FM-2 Wildcat x 18
     F4U-1 Corsair x 16
     F4U-1A Corsair x 18


Allied aircraft losses
     B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
     13 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 68


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Morning Air attack on Ominato , at 119,54

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes


Allied aircraft
     B-24J Liberator x 28
     F4U-1 Corsair x 4


Allied aircraft losses
     B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
     4 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 8

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Morning Air attack on 13th Field AF Construction Battalion, at 117,55 (Akita)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     J2M3 Jack x 8



Allied aircraft
     B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
     P-38J Lightning x 10
     P-38L Lightning x 19


Japanese aircraft losses
     J2M3 Jack: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
     89 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
        Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled

 
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 18, 44
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Morning Air attack on Ominato , at 119,54

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes


Allied aircraft
     Liberator B.III x 12
     Liberator B.VI x 39
     Mosquito FB.VI x 2
     B-24D Liberator x 11
     B-24D1 Liberator x 14
     B-24J Liberator x 121
     B-25D1 Mitchell x 14
     B-25H Mitchell x 56
     B-25J1 Mitchell x 3
     B-29-1 Superfort x 91
     FM-2 Wildcat x 18
     F4U-1 Corsair x 4
     F4U-1A Corsair x 18
     PB4Y-1 Liberator x 11
     PBJ-1D Mitchell x 30
     PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
     Liberator B.III: 1 damaged
     Liberator B.VI: 5 damaged
     Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
     B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
     B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
     B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
     B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged
     B-29-1 Superfort: 8 damaged
     PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
     476 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
        Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 67 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled



Airbase hits 72
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 134
 
Also attacking 54th/B Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 74th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking Nampo Shoto JNAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 54th/A Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Nansei Shoto JNAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 54th/C Division ...
Also attacking 7th/A Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 7th/C Division ...
Also attacking Western Army ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking General Defence Army ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 51st Base Force ...
Also attacking 27th Special Base Force ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 1st JAAF AF Bn  ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 3rd Mobile Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 51st Base Force ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking Nampo Shoto JNAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 56th Depot/B Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 6th Depot/A Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 48th Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 3rd Depot/C Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 4th Depot/A Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 6th Depot/C Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 56th Depot/C Division ...
Also attacking 6th Depot/B Division ...
Also attacking 56th Depot/A Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Depot/A Division ...
Also attacking 54th/B Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 51st Depot/A Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 3rd Depot/B Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 4th Depot/C Division ...
Also attacking Guards Depot/A Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 51st Depot/B Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 54th/B Division ...
Also attacking Guards Depot/C Division ...
Also attacking 51st Depot/C Division ...
Also attacking Guards Depot/B Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 54th/C Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Mortar Regiment ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 4th Depot/B Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 54th/A Division ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 54th/A Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 54th/A Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Mortar Regiment ...
Also attacking 27th Special Base Force ...
Also attacking 74th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking Mutsu Bay Fortress ...
Also attacking 74th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 54th/B Division ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 54th/A Division ...
Also attacking 54th/C Division ...
Also attacking 54th/A Division ...
Also attacking 54th/B Division ...
Also attacking 53rd Ind.Mixed Brigade ...
Also attacking Ominato  ...
Also attacking 54th/C Division ...
Also attacking 74th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 54th/C Division ...
Also attacking 54th/A Division ...
Also attacking 54th/C Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 1st RF Gun Battalion, at 117,55 (Akita)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
     J2M3 Jack x 13
     Ki-100-I Tony x 9



Allied aircraft
     Liberator B.III x 3
     Liberator B.VI x 3
     Wellington B.X x 15
     B-24D1 Liberator x 3
     B-25D1 Mitchell x 8
     B-25H Mitchell x 15
     B-29-1 Superfort x 18
     P-38J Lightning x 11
     P-38L Lightning x 11
     F6F-3 Hellcat x 26
     PBJ-1D Mitchell x 15
     PV-1 Ventura x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
     J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
     Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
     Wellington B.X: 1 damaged
     B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
     B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
     P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
     P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed
     PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
     68 casualties reported
        Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
        Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 50 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
     Guns lost 70 (3 destroyed, 67 disabled)
     Vehicles lost 59 (7 destroyed, 52 disabled)



(in reply to denisonh)
Post #: 4948
RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/6/2012 12:39:01 AM   
JohnDillworth


Posts: 3100
Joined: 3/19/2009
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quote:

I know john....don't think i don't know that...but the game has run so mch further that i don't have any other option...bore him (and me and you) to death with a 2years long strat bombing campaign or try the impossible and have fun for all of us!.


Oh I agree. you could bomb him to death but whats the point? Frankly, if the whole thing fails you can still bomb him to death. I just don't know what we are all going to do when this game is over. Better we have Götterdämmerung ,then to be the test bed for fighter escort tweaks. To paraphrase The Princess Bride : "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you sunk my escort carriers, prepare to die!"

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(in reply to denisonh)
Post #: 4949
RE: HAIRY TO THE BONE - 1/6/2012 12:45:14 AM   
GreyJoy


Posts: 6750
Joined: 3/18/2011
Status: offline 		Oh, and for those who are interested in little details...
...finally the first Australian fighter squadron has arrived in NOPAC theatre...
When the whole operation begun i had decided to leave the whole RAAF in the Solomons/NG/OZ in order to keep the feint plausible and to provide a good protection for our bases there...
...but after more than 5 months i started to feel ashamed of leaving the whole fight on the american and british airmen shoulders...so i decided to get at least a single australian fighter squadron to Hokkaido...
I chose the 75th Fighter squadron.... and i stripped every single Australian ace i had in my rooster, equip it with spits VIII and send them to Hokkaido... now they are in place!
Next turn will also see the arrival of 3 NZ fighter squadrons....
Now we really have the whole allied air forces there. USAAF, USN, USMC, RAF, RAAF, RNZAC, RCAF and a tiny squadron of Commonwelth pilots
Will keep the 75th RAAF squadron under a constant vigilance...let's see how these guys from down under perform in this terrible and harsh theatre!

(in reply to JohnDillworth)
Post #: 4950
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