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My Kingdom stands on brittle glass - Richard III (J) vs... - 1/24/2012 10:12:21 AM

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This thread is off limits to my erstwhile opponent Richard III.

Richard III kindly agreed to be my opponent in a PBEM game, I was (still am) looking for a DBB game but he plumped for a stock Hakko Ichiu and I thought what the hell, why not?

Started the game on v1108r8 beta, some selected options as follows.
Advanced Weather ON
Allied Damage Control ON
Player Defined Upgrades ON
Historical First Turn OFF
Dec 7 Surprise ON
Reliable USN Torps OFF
Realistic R&D ON
No Unit Withdrawals OFF
Reinforcements FIXED
Turn Cycle 1

House Rules
Units in restricted commands to be bought out with PP's if moved out of home theater/country
No flooding a hex with many one ship suicide TF`s to "sponge up" air strikes
No 4E naval bombing below 10,000ft
Leaving the Allied air groups at the games default to simulate the Dec 7 surprise
Fighters to use their second best maneuver rating when setting max altitude.

We have essentially agreed to "game the game and not the game engine". HRs will be added/tweaked as needed. I'm in turn 672 in my one other PBEM game, may this game live as long and prosper.

This AAR may not be terribly interesting from a reader's POV as I'm probably just going to keep a record of stuff that feels important to me from experience gained playing a PBEM game in to 670+ turns and counting. So expect to see quirky stuff like Excel lists of ship tonnage sank by subs on both sides and whatever else I found myself keeping a record of, thoughts on what goes on in my head (well, with regards to the game anyways) may or may not make an appearance depending on reader feedback, TLDR version, if you like what you see, tell me. If you don't see what you like, tell me. If you don't like what you see, well, I truly am sorry for having wasted 5 minutes of your life but no you can't have 'em back.

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7 Dec 1941 - 1/25/2012 3:53:34 PM

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RIII opened with an attack on PH as well as the PI and Malaya, landings in Kota Bahru and Aparri. Lots of invasion fleets still in transit though, don't recall getting such detailed sighting reports before. I see several clusters of TFs to the south of Formosa as well as activity up and down the Vietnamese coastline. I have not been hurt as bad as I expected and am looking for opportunities to hurt his advance. Details in the theatre breakdowns.

General Housekeeping
HQ Squadrons of American FGs were disbanded and folded into existing squadrons where possible, have enough micromanaging to do as it is.

CONUS
Am consolidating planes and ships in a bid to maximise my ASW assets as well as housekeeping/convoy formation/troop lift. Am interested to see if RIII will put effort into sustaining some sort of sub presence off CONUS in the mid/long term.

CENPAC
Morning attack on PH with an afternoon followup by a lone daitai of Kates, didn't sink anything. With the exception of Pennsylvania which got away without a scratch I'm looking at 3-7 months for the BBs. Other damaged ships of note include 1 CA and 3 CL but these will be back in operation before the end of the month.

Recon reports a TF of heavies just 3 hexes off PH, I'm putting it down to inexperienced Cat crews but will keep the ships in port for another turn or two till I'm sure whatever is out there is well and truly gone. Just to be sure, B-17s on naval attack will take a closer look at what's out there if they're still around next turn. After that, first order of business will be to purge the waters around the HI of IJN subs.

Wake Island was bombarded but no sign of the invasion fleet yet, Lexington and Enterprise are waiting to see where KB goes next and will make appropriate nuisances of themselves if the opportunity presents itself.

PI
For some reason the USAFFE wasn't punished too hard on the ground, most of the P-40s are operational. Landing at Aparri.

Southeast Asia
It's par for the course in this corner of the world, landings at Kota Bahru with more transports sighted inbound from Vietnam. The major surface ships of ABDA are gathering and waiting for the strike south into the DEI.

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8 Dec 1941 - 1/26/2012 12:47:32 AM

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Second day of the war and there's drama on the high seas

and in the emails...

Houston and Boise ended up in the Sulu Sea after steaming on their original course tracks through the first day of the war. One of the things that I really wanted to redo was how effectively I used my ABDA ships in the opening months of the war, in my other game I frittered most of them away to little or no gain in the defence of the DEI. I resolved to do better this time which results in the course track you see below, my intention was to loop around the north coast of Borneo and sit just off Sinkawang to see if I could catch an early move on the base there. What happened during the course of the day phase you can see in the picture below. For the record,

Day Time Surface Combat, near Miri at 63,86, Range 16,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Shell hits 5
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 1
DD Hatsushima, Shell hits 1
DD Wakaba
DD Sazanami, Shell hits 2
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 4

Day Time Surface Combat, near Miri at 63,86, Range 20,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Hatsushima, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD Wakaba, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
DD Sazanami, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 12, on fire

For the record, Kaga was struck by a pair of 8 inchers and maybe another pair of 6 inchers, most of the hits contacted her belt armor with one hit scoring critically on her damage control parties, she's not sunk and I don't think she was damaged too badly but she's far from friendly territory and there are sharks in the water.

In returning the turn RIII was of the opinion that I set both ships to full speed on the first turn just so I could "overrun and wreck" Kaga and that it seemed gamey to him. To say he was unhappy is an understatement.

So, a question for the peanut gallery, was my move a fair one or is it gamey? I offered to redo the turn mainly because the last thing I want is an opponent who has a bad taste in his mouth from potentially losing a CV on turn 2, and more importantly, also thinks that I "cheated" in order to do it. I have my take on the matter but I'd like to hear what people think.

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 1/26/2012 4:57:48 PM

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Good to see you back, Arnhem.

Question - was there any restriction in HRs about giving orders to TFs? If not, how can moving full speed away from the dangerous PI waters be seen as gamey?

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 1/26/2012 5:59:25 PM

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What about Force Z? He's lucky Kaga didn't run into them instead. I don't think it's gamey whether it was or wasn't on turn 1. Sending Kaga in that early, and under-escorted, into waters that could be filled with any number of Allied SCTF's was ill advised anyway. Nice job.

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 1/26/2012 6:02:56 PM

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I think you were fine. You said you let the TF complete their normal Turn One moves and THEN sent them off to Singkawang. NICE MOVE!

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 1/26/2012 9:28:16 PM

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@Criptop good to be back, got a little lazy updating the other AAR, hope I don't slack off with this one. In answer to your question, we didn't discuss a specific HR about giving orders to TFs on turn 1 if that's what you mean. To be fair, RIII didn't do anything crazy like multiple port strikes or aggressive deep penetrations with his turn 1 "warp speed" TFs as well and I just let most of the formed TFs run their course tracks (with the exception of Force Z of course) on turn 1 and only started giving orders from turn 2. For me, RIII's opening moves give a hint as to the manner in which he intends to prosecute this war (ie. pretty much historically/conservatively) even though it's Hakko Ichiu, time will tell.

@Sqz exactly my thoughts, I've done enough dumb things with my CVs to know that trawling a fleet carrier just 2 hexes off a hostile coast is just asking for it no matter how one looks at it.

@John Thanks, wasn't my intention to catch the Kaga cos I didn't know she was going to pop up there but I take my breaks any way I get 'em.

Fwiw, the turn was redone and let me tell you guys, doing a turn 2 twice in a row is enough to drive a person a little nuts. No more freebies from here on end for either side.

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 1/26/2012 11:35:56 PM

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Can't find any fault with your move at all. You had no HR, didn't issue new orders turn 1, then ran like Hades on turn 2 toward Singapore and lucked into Kaga. Very reasonable sequence of events, IMHO. Kaga was in Indian Country and got caught.

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9 Dec 1941 - 1/28/2012 3:38:03 PM

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CONUS
Nothing much to report, should be forming the first of the troop convoys in a day or two when most of the ships assemble, lots of ground to defend and not many unrestricted units to do it with. Looking at initial defence of the Aleutians as well.

CENPAC
KB takes its time to exit the Hawaiian Islands, the CVs are sighted about 10 hexes west of PH. Have some subs transitioning to their patrol areas, have redirected a couple along KB's path in the hope of scoring a cheap shot. Sigint reports Tarawa and Guam are on the hit list. Would like to disrupt the Tarawa landings but that's only if I know for sure KB isn't anywhere near.

Southeast Asia
Lose a trio of xAKs to mines in the mad dash out of Manila. Clark is worked over, guess RIII is starting early on preventing fort levels from being built up. The invasion fleet is 2 hexes off the north coast and heading into San Fernando from what Sigint tells me. Subs and PT boats should see some action in the next turn. Sigint also tells me some significant strength is being prepped for Mauban, just 1 hex south of Manila. Sucker punch maybe? Am pushing subs over to cover the eastern approaches, don't know how far out the invasion units are.

The Japanese have established a foothold on the Malay Peninsula as Kota Bahru falls to a shock attack by lead elements of the Chrysanthemum Division. Hong Kong is bombed for the first time. Zero sweeps generally make a mess of defending RAF squadrons above the skies of Malaya. Lots of activity at Patani/Singora.

CBI
Zeroes sweep Rangoon and beat up the Brit Buffalo squadron based there, am husbanding AVG for when the screaming horde moves up from Thailand.

China
I hate China, that is all I have to say at this point.

The Dutch get the ball rolling with a kill off Cam Ranh Bay.

Allied Sub killboard
KXIV - xAK Meiu Maru (4,875t)

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9 Dec 1941 - 1/30/2012 4:02:57 PM

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Quiet turn in general.

CENPAC
The 3 USN CVs are making their way to their rendezvous point, I still have eyeballs on KB and it's really marking time moving away from Hawaii, from the course track I'd say it's waiting for the Wake invasion fleet to get into position so it can blast Wake as it sails past it. Subs didn't manage to get in it's way during the turn, here's hoping I get lucky on this next one.

Southeast Asia
PT Boats engage the Japanese invasion fleet off San Fernando but score no hits, an enemy xAK is heavily damaged by another in a collision during the scramble to escape. Subs out of Manila try to get on the scoreboard but make a nuisance of themselves more than anything. B-17s out of Clark and Davao go after shipping in an attempt to keep RIII a little less gungho in his movements around the waters of the PI. IJA units are ashore at San Fernando, Aparri and Vigan by the end of the day.

Air attacks continue over Malaya but are mostly concentrated well north of Singapore, I expect to see Zero sweeps within the next couple of days depending on how fast RIII can get IJAAF BFs into Kuantan. Otherwise I might just a couple more days of relative peace.

Kaga and her consorts are still hanging around about 4 hexes off Miri, am moving Force Z a little closer in to see if I can zap her in the next turn or two if she hangs around that long.

Ship losses
I lose a total of 9 xAKLs to enemy surface action and Betties in the waters around the PI as they try to make their escape.

Allied Sub killboard
KXII - xAK Kusuyama Maru (4,875t)
KXIV - xAK Meiu Maru (4,875t)

Probable
S-36 and KXII - xAKL Gyokurei Maru (2 torps - on fire, hvy dmg - 09/12/41)

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10 Dec 1941 - 2/2/2012 2:06:22 AM

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Southeast Asia
In Malaya, I've generally executed a Sir Robin and fallen back on Singapore leaving behind enough of a rear guard to force the IJA to slow down and deploy to brush them out of the way. Alor Star is occupied by the IJA. Initial forces that landed in Kota Bahru have not moved out from the hex yet. Kuantan and Mersing look to be safe from an end run as of now.

Brit MTBs out of HK score big off San Fernando, getting in among a TF and sinking 3 xAKs and an xAP (Kokuryu Maru, see footnote below). Looked like they were empty of troops or cargo when they went down but every ship sunk hurts RIII in the long run. The MTBs have no fuel left in their bunkers after their antics and will have to make their way to the nearest base 2 hexes away, doubtless suffering some major damage along the way. San Fernando, Vigan and Laoag are taken by the IJA. Scattered targeting of my bases in the PI allow Clark to repair damage and return to being fully operational.

Subs vectored for Kaga's last known position miss her completely, she moves into the coastal hex of Miri as it is invaded, am repositioning subs around the hex.

US subs settle right into the usual pattern of firing blanks or missing their targets but the Dutch keep the Allied silent service from looking completely incompetent.

Allied Sub killboard
KXII - xAK Kusuyama Maru (4,875t)
KXIV - xAK Meiu Maru (4,875t)
KXVII - PB Eiko Maru (2,780t)

Probable
S-36 and KXII - xAKL Gyokurei Maru (2 torps - on fire, hvy dmg - 09/12/41)
S-40 - xAK Hakusika Maru (1 torp - on fire, hvy dmg - 10/12/41)

Historical Footnote
Kokuryu Maru (7,350t) was part of a convoy of 12 merchies escorted by 3 DDs and a subchaser that left Manila on 20 October 1944 bound for Takao. The ships were carrying a mixture of passengers, POWs and war material. On 24 October, the convoy is set upon by a wolfpack of 5 USN subs, by the end of the day 9 of 12 merchies would have been sunk, Kokuryu Maru included, she takes with her 324 of 1,357 passgengers and 63 crewmen. Of note is the sinking of Arisan Maru, in addition to 27 passengers and 15 crew, she went down with 1,773 of the 1,782 POWs she was carrying.

KOKURYU MARU by ROGERIO GOUVEIA, on Flickr

World War II - The Janesville 99 Memorial by cliff1066�, on Flickr

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 2/2/2012 3:32:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: Cribtop

Can't find any fault with your move at all. You had no HR, didn't issue new orders turn 1, then ran like Hades on turn 2 toward Singapore and lucked into Kaga. Very reasonable sequence of events, IMHO. Kaga was in Indian Country and got caught.

This was my take on this matter to a T. The intercept was just incredible dumb luck (good on your part and bad on his). You could do this same thing ten times and likely not see the same results.

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 2/2/2012 4:00:12 AM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cribtop

Can't find any fault with your move at all. You had no HR, didn't issue new orders turn 1, then ran like Hades on turn 2 toward Singapore and lucked into Kaga. Very reasonable sequence of events, IMHO. Kaga was in Indian Country and got caught.

This was my take on this matter to a T. The intercept was just incredible dumb luck (good on your part and bad on his). You could do this same thing ten times and likely not see the same results.

Indeed, what's done (or not done) is done. I might rue the day I let Kaga go but he's still hanging around Miri, am trying to see if I can rustle up some surface assets to pounce on her if she will have the courtesy to hang around for another turn or two but my major surface ships ran so hard the first two turns I'm out of position by a good mile and then some, only hope now is the subs.

On another note, just look at Boise vs Houston in terms of number of hits inflicted on the IJN TF as a whole.

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RE: 8 Dec 1941 - 2/4/2012 5:05:13 PM

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Multiple landings along several axes as RIII pushes ahead with plans to dominate the Pacific.

Allied shipping
The Allies have access to about 16 or so numbers of big xAKs capable of cruising speeds of 17 knots. Have redirected them towards CONUS, will be using them as fast resupply convoys from CONUS to SWPAC.

CBI
Sorting out the garrison requirements for India is a real pita, pulling out combat LCUs and replacing them with militia battalions brings out the worst of the clickfest that is sometimes WitP AE.

Air attacks have started on targets in Burma with Rangoon getting hit, the AVG won't be coming out to play till the IJA are at the borders. The 17th Indian Div is about the only unit I can spare to send to Burma's defence but its 3 Bdes are widely scattered and will take time to form up, in the meantime, the 1st Burmese Div will meet the IJA at Pegu and attempt to slow the Empire of Japan down for as long as possible.

Southeast Asia
Landings at Miri and Brunei, the seas off these 2 hexes are infested with around 8 Allied subs with more on the way, Kaga will not pass through without at least one sub taking a shot at her. In the meantime, her air complement sinks the 3 Brit DDs out of HK as they pull into Tarakan to top up their empty bunkers, doh.

Hong Kong is now under siege.

CENPAC
Guam is invaded.

SWPAC
Landings at Hollandia and Kavieng, I expected a play for Rabaul as an opening on this front to be honest. Don't have much to put in the way of an early grab of anything of significance in this area right down to Noumea/Suva, seeing how hard someone pushes here is a good gauge of how ballsy an opponent is I reckon.

Lots of misses/duds by the USN fleet boats while the Dutch continue to rack up the kills while Dolphin is shot at and hit by an I-boat, she's heavily damaged and about 15 hexes off PH and limping home.

Allied Sub killboard
KXII - xAK Kusuyama Maru (4,875t)
KXIII - xAK Seisyo Maru (4,875t)
KXIV - xAK Meiu Maru (4,875t)
KXVII - PB Eiko Maru (2,780t)

Probable
S-36 and KXII - xAKL Gyokurei Maru (2 torps - on fire, hvy dmg - 09/12/41)
S-40 - xAK Hakusika Maru (1 torp - on fire, hvy dmg - 10/12/41)

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12 Dec 1941 - 2/8/2012 1:26:31 AM

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CENPAC
Wake climbs to fort level 2, still no sign of the Japanese, VMF-211 was taken off by Lexington in a drive by sailing so the Marines are pretty much on their own. The first fuel supply convoys are loading up at PH to resupply Oz and SWPAC bases.

SWPAC
Kavieng and Hollandia fall to the IJN.

Southeast Asia
Air attacks over Georgetown, Hong Kong, Tavoy, Rangoon.

Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 21420 troops, 321 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 633
Defending force 6649 troops, 132 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 227
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2
Japanese adjusted assault: 541
Allied adjusted defense: 417
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
519 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
352 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
38th Division
66th Infantry Regiment
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
2nd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
Rifles of Canada Battalion
1st Middlesex Battalion
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
Kowloon Brigade
102nd RN Base Force
Hong Kong Fortress

2 Regiments worth of IJA land at Atimonan in Central Luzon in what I assume is a move on Manila from the south.

CBI
The IJA begins it's move into Burma by attack Victoria Point. Sigint also pointing to the 33rd Division being prepped for an attack on Rangoon via Thailand.

A Chinese LCU moving into Ichang from across a river triggers a shock attack and is mauled, good thing it's just that lone division, the rest of the stack is still intact.

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 10465 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1693
Defending force 20951 troops, 154 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 792
Allied adjusted assault: 0
Japanese adjusted defense: 896
Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
3120 casualties reported
Squads: 92 destroyed, 270 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

KXIV reacts into Miri and fires a spread of 6 at Kaga but only 1 connects, she's bracketed but should be able to limp home in one piece. Force Z is making a run to get into position for a shot at Kaga the next turn, am baffled as to why RIII continues to risk a flattop in such a fashion.

Sub attack near Miri at 64,87
Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1
CA Chokai
DD Hatsushima
DD Ushio
DD Sazanami
DD Wakaba

Allied Ships
SS KXIV, hits 15

The IJN subs are themselves not doing too hot, 8 separate attacks by IJN subs on ASW patrols around the PH area result in a string of misses although I-166 does well by putting 3 into Mauritius in 2 separate attacks and sinking the first significant Allied surface combatant.

Allied Sub killboard
KXII - xAK Kusuyama Maru (4,875t)
KXIII - xAK Seisyo Maru (4,875t)
KXIV - xAK Meiu Maru (4,875t)
KXVII - PB Eiko Maru (2,780t)

Probable
S-36 and KXII - xAKL Gyokurei Maru (2 torps - on fire, hvy dmg - 09/12/41)
S-40 - xAK Hakusika Maru (1 torp - on fire, hvy dmg - 10/12/41)
Stingray - xAK Tamashima Maru (1 torp - on fire, hvy dmg - 12/12/41)

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RE: 12 Dec 1941 - 2/9/2012 5:42:07 AM

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I wonder what the hell he is doing with just Kaga in that area... it's just asking for trouble...

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RE: 12 Dec 1941 - 2/15/2012 10:31:00 AM

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Hey CF, welcome to the party!

CENPAC
The invasion of Wake Island is underway. A bombardment by a light covering force of CLs precedes an air attack by KB which is stationed somewhere to the SE of the island. No sign of the invasion force proper but it shouldn't be long now.

Landing at Atimonan (2 hexes from Manila) by elements of the 16th ID.

SWPAC
Landing at Lae. Looks like the IJN taking the lead for the time being in this theatre, both on land and sea, am going to contest landings if they come further south.

CBI
Lots of small air attacks across China, probably taking the chance to harrass and gain experience at the same time. IJA units are making local attacks to push back the Chinese LCUs that I've left as rearguards as the bulk of the Chinese army pulls back towards the cities and non-clear hexes to form a new MLR.

2nd day of ground attack on Hong Kong, the casualties are mounting for the IJA while fort levels are still intact.

Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 21037 troops, 320 guns, 217 vehicles, Assault Value = 602
Defending force 6363 troops, 132 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 188
Japanese adjusted assault: 451
Allied adjusted defense: 661
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
696 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled

Allied ground losses:
342 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Major IJA LCUs idenitifed by theatre
Philippines
65th Bde
9th Inf Reg, 20th Inf Reg (16th ID)
2nd Tank Reg
16th Recon Reg (16th ID)

Malaya
56th Inf Reg (18th ID)
12th Eng Reg (18th ID)

China
32, 34, 35, 38, 104th IDs
66th Inf Reg
13th, 15th Tank Bdes
3, 6, 9, 13, 14, 16 Ind. Mixed Bdes
4th Ind. Mixed Reg
19, 20 Ind. Eng Regs

Sub War
Allied subs camping the waters off Cam Ranh Bay make their presence felt with the sinking of Kobe Maru and the probable sinking of an xAK. Lots of misses off the waters of the PI and everywhere else though. IJN boats scalp an AM out of PH.

Allied Sub killboard
KXV - xAP Kobe Maru (5,660t)
KXII - xAK Kusuyama Maru (4,875t)
KXIII - xAK Seisyo Maru (4,875t)
KXIV - xAK Meiu Maru (4,875t)
KXVII - PB Eiko Maru (2,780t)

Probable
S-36 and KXII - xAKL Gyokurei Maru (2 torps - on fire, hvy dmg - 09/12/41)
S-40 - xAK Hakusika Maru (1 torp - on fire, hvy dmg - 10/12/41)
Stingray - xAK Tamashima Maru (1 torp - on fire, hvy dmg - 12/12/41)
Sturgeon - xAK Mexico Maru (1 torp - heavy dmg - 13/12/41)

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RE: 12 Dec 1941 - 2/15/2012 10:10:38 PM

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I dont understand the Kaga positioning. I can think of three reasons, but none of them good.

1) He feels bad about complaining and accusing you of gamey play and is giving Kaga to you.

2) Kaga is bait, and he hopes to pull in the surface forces and subs in the area.

3) He really expects you to Sir Robin

Good luck Arnhem...i want that Big Babes game bad, but i just cant get the time to do it justice yet. I like to get at least 2 turns a day in each game and my Dr. would like me to get less.

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One of the serious problems in planning the fight against American doctrine.... is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine

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