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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/26/2012 11:54:51 PM

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Thanks Sulu. Looks like 22 fighters and 9 TB.

GZ, been there, done that.

Obvert, let's just skip the part about subs attacking CVs, shall we?

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/26/2012 11:56:49 PM

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Not much happening today. The I-9 was playing cat and mouse with the AM TF it encountered a couple of days ago. She launched a couple of torpedoes at one which resulted in a dud and took a couple of near misses for 8 sys damage in return. She�ll stay on station.

5 Fleet

Adak is nearing a level 1 airfield (finally). I may have to buy out some engineers to assist. This is taking far too long.

4 Fleet

Construction is happening in a few places. Many more engineers are needed here as well. There are none on the reinforcement schedule for a long time. They�ll have to come out of Manchuoko. PPs�..

SE Fleet

The Lae Invasion force is loading at Rabaul. They will have lots of ASW supporting them as well as air cover. They should leave in a day or two.

Wakaba is as repaired as she can be at 0-67(67)-17(17)-0. I�ll probably send her off to Truk tomorrow.

Mindanao

Transports are headed to pick up the 16 Division. Their first target is Cebu, which holds a PA Division.

The 146 Regiment (56 Division � Burma) helped with the conquest of Manado and has reloaded and is enroute to Bangkok, where it will then entrain for Burma.

Philippines

The ground bombardment of Bataan has begun! Well, it will tomorrow�..

I attacked Batangas in a DA with the 2 tank regiments from 14 Army. I really didn�t expect much but got 4:1 odds and pushed the 41 PA Division and the PAF Aviation south to Lucena. Lucena is now the only base (other than Bataan) that the Allies control on Luzon. I�m sending the two tank regiments there to take it. Lucena has three Allied units defending it (including the 2 units from Batangas). The DA resulted in no Japanese casualties to 547(112) Allied casualties. After this pocket is eliminated, the 2 tank regiments will prepare to embark on the Palembang campaign along with 4 Division (currently at Cam Ranh Bay).

China

The AVG hit my Nates again shooting down another one. Fortunately, I haven�t lost any pilots. All 3 are WIA, so hopefully, they�ll return.

I upgraded that Nate unit to the Oscar Ic. Only 8 Oscars were available though. We�ll see if that makes any difference. I wish I had some Zeros available. That would be a nice surprise for Ted.

Burma

The invasion force crawls forward.

Malaya

The first wave of the Singapore Invasion force has begun movement, consisting of 4x divisions. The second wave will follow once IG division arrives. Air bombardment continues. One Betty was destroyed by flak. I have reduced the range on my Bettys and Nells to prevent this waste of great pilots (even though the Nell pilots can�t hit the water when going after ships.

Other Stuff

Oil and fuel is being transported from Miri/Brunei to Cam Ranh Bay. Balikpapan will receive 4x 12.8k TKs in a couple days to suck out its oil and then fuel. Those TKs will eventually be used to haul oil/fuel to the Home Islands from Singapore when the SRA liberation is complete and my convoys are all in place. Balikpapan will eventually have 2x TFs each with 4x 7950 TKs and 4x Ansyu-C PBs to haul fuel to Truk most of the time. I also plan on having at least 2x ASW TFs at each port along with air ASW. Tarakan and Balikpapan currently have 1 chutai each of ASW with some naval ASW enroute.

Tarakan�s repairs will be complete in 17 days. The required supply is in place.

I keep getting radio transmissions at Kendari. I�ll bet Ted has an ambush TF there. It�s going to get a visit from 4x IJN BBs with MKB air cover in a bit. Heh, heh�

I bought out the Hiryu fighter daitai. It�ll arrive on 22 May, 135 days from now. I see that Ryuho can hold 48 planes. I�m debating whether to buy Hiryu�s DBs or TBs. The TBs are nice, but after Ryuho�s air component arrives, I can use the DB daitai for additional training. I need to do a better analysis of DB and TB/LB needs for the future. I have a lot of Jeans training and a daitai of Nells as well, but they train pilots in both NavT and NavB so it�s really only half the number. Something else to check tonight.

Most of my PB conversions are finished. I have PBs all over the place! Granted, their experience levels suck but they�re better than nothing. I�m attempting to make sense of where they are and move them somewhere where they are needed. I may be able to have Ansyu-C ASW TFs follow my CS convoys. I have over 200 PBs! That�s not counting SCs, TBs, Es, etc�.. I figure I�ll have at least 25 ASW TFs (just from those PBs) at various strategic ports just hanging out. I�m glad I converted a bunch of AGs. They�re heading out to those same strategic ports destined to fix all those garbage scows that will ply the waters around those bases in search of enemy subs.

I just did a rough analysis of the frontline/carrier based aircraft vs. the training unit capacity. Here are rough numbers:

Frontline/Carrier
F: 411
DB: 151
TB: 438
Trainers
F: 80 (27 per month)
DB: 100 (33 per month)
TB: 128 (21 per month � remember, these guys train in both NavT and NavB)

I need TBs. I�m buying out the Hiryu�s TB daitai.

I decided on holding off on buying out the remainder of the 20 Div and will buy 1x Independent Engineer Regiment and 1x Construction Company for 5 Fleet. Then I�ll continue on the 20 Div. The engineers will move to Adak giving that base an additional 64 engineers.

I�ve been very cautious with my use of mines this game. As a matter of fact, the only mines I�ve laid have been by the 4x mine laying subs that started the game loaded and 150 at Rabaul just a day or two ago. I plan on laying mines defensively in places where I expect Ted to come after me. I have all of the starting minefields covered by ACMs with spare ACMs for the future minefields. I will use the mine laying subs to harass Ted by laying mines in his ports. Those initial sub laid mines may have caused the demise of a DD and either damaged or sank a CL as well, along with a merchant or two. I�ll take it.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/27/2012 10:46:49 AM

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Construction is happening in a few places. Many more engineers are needed here as well. There are none on the reinforcement schedule for a long time. They�ll have to come out of Manchuoko. PPs�..

Some of the small ones are only 17 PP, which is great. A couple days PPs and you have several islands' worth of ENG units. Over the next 4-6 months, even the small ones can get a base up to 4-5 forts and whatever airfield you want.

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I need TBs. I�m buying out the Hiryu�s TB daitai.

Some of the small Val groups you get soon can convert to Kates to get you more training there.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/27/2012 11:41:37 AM

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I hope you moved your engineer units from Manchuria to Korea to expand the bases, especially the ports. Might as well do something useful while waiting for PPs.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/27/2012 11:43:38 AM

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I hope you moved your engineer units from Manchuria to Korea to expand the bases, especially the ports. Might as well do something useful while waiting for PPs.

+1

Fusan is a level 8 port now for me and does wonders for getting resources out of Korea/Manchuria.

You can also move Divisions around though and use those ENG to build in Korea.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/27/2012 11:58:02 AM

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I hope you moved your engineer units from Manchuria to Korea to expand the bases, especially the ports. Might as well do something useful while waiting for PPs.

Good idea, I don't know if this will assist the efforts but these are from my first day notes. Credit should go to Fletcher and his AAR once the opening moves are made I'll move more engineers to Fusan.

Antisubmarine warfare Ops in Yellow Sea, following move to Korea AFs:

-3rd FF Construction Coy from Anshan to Chinnampo to build AF.
-31st Road Const Coy from Changchum to Gunzan to build AF.
-40th Const Coy from Changchum to Keijo to build AF.
-51st Const Coy from Changchum to Masan to build AF.
-52nd Const Coy from Changchum to Chinhae to build AF.

-14th JNAF AF Unit from Genzan to Gunzan
-10th JNAF Bn from Kanko to Masan in strategic move and then will move to Moppo
-26th JAAF AF Bn from Rashin to Chinnampo
-30th JAAF AF Bn from Kanko to Kaishu
-46th JAAF AF Bn from Kiamusze to Chinhae
-53rd JAAF AF Bn from Kiamusze to Keijo
-209th JAAF AF Bn from Taonan to Keijo

-2nd Air Division HQ will support air ASW ops from Gunzan.

I hope Mike or some of the contributors finds it as useful as I have.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/27/2012 11:06:18 PM

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First off, thank you for this AAR, it's fun to read and very helpful.

Regarding engineers, have you scoured the HI for unrestricted ones? At the start there are some scattered around (I like to route them all to Ominato where they fix the port while I figure out where to send them). The Luzon invasion forces seem to have the bulk of available unrestricted engineers otherwise, maybe 4th fleet could poach some?

Also, according to standard HR, is it ok to shift Kwangtung Army troops to Korea? I thought it was a separate area like China, although the starting positions/HQs are a bit mixed up for some units.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:20:13 AM

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Thanks for the input guys. Yeah, I have most of my Manchuoko engineers someplace useful building something. I bought out an independent engineer regiment and 2x construction companies pretty cheap and they're being transported to Adak. Even in 18 kt xAKs, it'll take awhile.

Obvert, thanks for the reminder about those Val units. I forgot about them. I decided not to buy the Hiryu TB daitai. I'll do what you suggested.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:34:27 AM

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8 Jan 42

Sub War

Nothing new to report.

5 Fleet

Engineers enroute to Adak. I'm almost at a level 1 airfield.

4 Fleet

Nothing new to report.

SE Fleet

The Lae invasion force lands tomorrow.

There's a ship in the docked at Pt. Moresby. I hope my Bettys take it out. They didn't today.

Philippines

The first of many land bombardments occurred today. It'll be awhile, but the time really doesn't matter.

China

A division DAed three Chinese units a hex west of Kweiteh causing 636(83) casualties to 19(0) Japanese casualties.

The forces attempting to surround the 20 units in Chengchow-Loyang have 3 hexes to occupy to have them completely surrounded. We're getting there.

The AVG did a sweep at Nanchang shooting down two Nates. Fortunately, both pilots survived. I upgraded that unit to Oscars too. Eventually, the Oscars will get in the battle against the AVG.

Burma

Nothing new to report.

Malaya

The 4x division Singapore assault force in in motion. Just a couple of days.

Other Stuff

I think I said earlier that I was sending the Minekazes to get upgraded in Feb 42. They can upgrade then, but they have DC racks. They are not top priority. I'll upgrade them as they reach port. The class that needs to be upgraded first are the Mutsuki class. They do not have DC racks and are eligible for upgrade in Feb 42 also. I sent them all to either Kobe or Saigon in preparation for the Feb upgrades.

Since I use a Mac and have a Mac keyboard, I don't have the option to print screen. None of the other alternatives work for me either. I recall someone saying that there is some PC software that allows you to capture screen shots. Does anyone know the name of it? I'd love to download it to be able to show you guys screen shots.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 3:14:59 AM

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I use Gadwin print screen, but there are others.

I think the Allies really have to abandon the north China plain, including Chengchow, Loyang and possibly Nanyang, from Day 1 lest they suffer defeat or encirclement.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 3:25:09 AM

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Thanks Cribtop. I'll check it out.

It's just about too late for Ted to withdraw. Most of his forces out there are doomed.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 5:19:03 AM

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That's music to my JFB ears, Mike.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:09:32 PM

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Ok guys, I can do screen shots now. Here's Burma. You can see the string of units crawling along.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:39:45 PM

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Here's China. The arrows show my current movements. If successful, ~30 enemy units will be surrounded.

Note the airfield symbol at Changsha. That's the AVG.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:42:33 PM

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Here's Malaya. The units moving south are headed to Singapore and the units heading north are (for the most part) headed to Burma.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:45:28 PM

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Interested to ask why you did not send a unit over the road to Taung Gyi? Even as a bluff it would force him to split his forces more or at least doubt his own plans.

Nice to have a new toy with the screen shots

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:45:30 PM

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And finally, the Philippines. There are 3 Allied units and 2x Japanese tank regiments at Lucena. I'm attacking this turn to try to eliminate them.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 2:50:30 PM

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Interested to ask why you did not send a unit over the road to Taung Gyi? Even as a bluff it would force him to split his forces more or at least doubt his own plans.

Nice to have a new toy with the screen shots

You'll see that my initial invasion is 1 each infantry, cav and engineer regiment along with a couple artillery units. Not a lot. That road would take forever. It is a thought though. There's some armor arriving. Maybe a tank regiment. Good thought. Thanks.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 3:33:29 PM

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I think the Allies really have to abandon the north China plain, including Chengchow, Loyang and possibly Nanyang, from Day 1 lest they suffer defeat or encirclement.

This is traditionally one of my earliest IJA goals in China. Cut 'em off and liquidate 'em. Bag the lot of 'em as you work toward your earnest goal of 200 (or is it 400?) Chinese squads destroyed / month.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 4:54:46 PM

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It's >350 infantry squads a month.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 6:00:12 PM

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9 Jan 42

Sub War

Something is going on at San Francisco. Lots of radio traffic and Ted has several ASW TFs scouring the area. I'll see if I can get a sniff of what's moving over there.

5 Fleet

Nothing new to report.

4 Fleet

Nothing new to report.

SE Fleet

Successful landing at Lae. I'll take it tomorrow and the base force will also land tomorrow.

KB is moving out to Truk today. Hopefully, it will remain unspotted.

Philippines

I attacked Lucena today unsuccessfully with the two tank regiments. The two units I pushed there from Batangas were in bad shape but the PA division that had been sitting there all along was still healthy. Losses were 0 to 68(0) enemy. My tanks are fatigued so I'll sit for awhile. I may wait until the 16 Division arrives, but that'll be a while. It still has to load up in Mindanao and then take Cebu, which is garrisoned by a PA Division.

China

Lots of movement there. I attacked Tsiaotso with a division and 2x brigades against 4x Chinese Corps of varying strength and a HQ unsucessfully. Losses were 2479(6) for me and 369(2) for Ted. I have more troops heading there. I'll bombard a bit and try again when the troops arrive.

The AVG hit me again, downing 2 Oscars for no loss to them. The Oscars are no better than the Nates. Fortunately, I lost only one pilot WIA.

Burma

Nothing new to report.

Malaya

Nothing new to report.

Java

Ted remembered that I landed at Kaldjati last game and has (according to my intel) 15k troops there. I'm reconning other possible landing sites. He can't have that many troops in every port hex.

SRA

Landing at Makassar tomorrow supported by 4x BBs and MKB.

Other Stuff

Not a lot to mention here but there is a lot of movement in preparation for the next phase. My convoys are being set up to move fuel, oil and resources out of the SRA. A 51k oil TF just left Cam Ranh Bay for Japan. Miri is being emptied as fast as I can. A 50k+ TK TF will arrive in a couple of days at Balikpapan to pull oil out of there.

Once Makassar is taken, I'll set up the 21 Air Flotilla there instead of at Kendari, where I had initially planned on stationing them.

Ted is hiding his air force everywhere except for the AVG, which I don't have an answer for right now. I need my few available Zeros for the Java campaign. I'll just keep night bombing in the hopes that I'll get lucky and kill the occasional plane or pilot on the ground for now.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 6:03:31 PM

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Enemy forces at Bataan.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 6:22:23 PM

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Question for the group. Where do you like to let your subs hang out? The west coast and PH are obvious. I've got some off Sydney but they're just playing cat & mouse with some AMs. Once I capture Singapore, I'll station some off Ceylon and along the Indian coast. How about the Pacific. Where do the Allied like to set up ports? I've never had luck out there finding any.

Ted's subs disappeared south of Rabaul (with the exception of 1 that my ASWs ships won't engage). Wonder where they're headed next? Java?

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 6:40:56 PM

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Fidji and the line islands might get results.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 6:48:42 PM

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I have some around Fiji/Samoa but no luck so far. Line Islands sounds good. I'll send a few there.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 6:59:27 PM

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Question for the group. Where do you like to let your subs hang out? ... Where do the Allied like to set up ports? I've never had luck out there finding any.

One of the major uses for my subs is intel ... in other words they are used to answer your question: "Where do the Allied like to set up ports?". So I send subs out to get the answer, so they go to the 4 corners of the world. Especially the Glens.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 7:08:06 PM

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Try Tahiti also. And an AMC or two patrolling the bottom of the map can't hurt if you're not afraid to lose it.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 7:09:25 PM

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Pax, I do too. To me subs are more an intel platform than an offensive platform. I like to see where the enemy ships are headed and if I can safely knock one off here and there, that much better. I'm aggressive with them if I know he has a crippled capital ship that I can catch. They're much easier to sink. Whenever I do an op with KB, I like to place subs between the AO and the nearest enemy base, just for that reason. I have 8 subs pretty much dedicated to KB.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 7:10:56 PM

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Try Tahiti also. And an AMC or two patrolling the bottom of the map can't hurt if you're not afraid to lose it.

Early in the war, I'm afraid to lose anything. Just call me paranoid. Interesting idea though. I might just try something like that.

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RE: Once Again into the Breech - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 1/28/2012 7:17:01 PM

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Try Tahiti also. And an AMC or two patrolling the bottom of the map can't hurt if you're not afraid to lose it.

Early in the war, I'm afraid to lose anything. Just call me paranoid. Interesting idea though. I might just try something like that.

They're not too slow and they could help vector subs into the right areas.

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