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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 12:38:41 AM   
GreyJoy


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 25, 44

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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 14
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 5



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-804 Hikotai with J1N1-S Irving (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 22000
Raid is overhead
S-851 Hikotai with J1N1-S Irving (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
42nd I.F.Chutai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
302 Ku S-2 with J1N1-S Irving (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 22000
Raid is overhead



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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 9
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 5



Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 20000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-804 Hikotai with J1N1-S Irving (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 22000
Raid is overhead
42nd I.F.Chutai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
302 Ku S-2 with J1N1-S Irving (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 22000
Raid is overhead
S-851 Hikotai with J1N1-S Irving (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 188 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 50 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 79
J7W1 Shinden x 6



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 7
Thunderbolt I x 19
Spitfire VIII x 24
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 65


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 159 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 20
J7W1 Shinden x 21



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 7
Thunderbolt I x 8
Spitfire VIII x 18
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 58


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 8 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 97 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 45



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 7
Thunderbolt I x 8
Spitfire VIII x 14
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 44


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 134 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 12
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 204
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 155



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 3
Thunderbolt I x 6
Spitfire VIII x 9
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 33


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 24 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed on ground
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled


Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 44
Port hits 5

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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 124 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-83 x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 20
Ki-100-I Tony x 6



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2
Thunderbolt I x 2
Spitfire VIII x 5
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed








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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 12:42:57 AM   
GreyJoy


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Status: offline 		So...this other test with the night bombing wasn't sufficient...

A part from that, our defence of Sadogashima is growing stronger. Every day we inflict severe losses to the enemy and everyday the defences of the island become stronger.
We finally managed to bring some AA there, along with enough engineers to repair the damages that he, despite our stiff resistance, manages to inflict.
Now 2 more AA units are being delivered, along with some engineers vehicles.
...finally the AF is growing...1 and 10% for now...but i'm confident!

Usual patrols ordered for tomorrow.
50 more spitfires will rotate their comrades and the P-47s will be substituted on LRCAP by the P-38s.
A lot of ASW TFs will be patrolling those waters and our subs have created a ring of fire around Sadogashima.

A couple of weeks like that and the skies over the base will be uncontested.

Hurrah!






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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 12:48:25 AM   
GreyJoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

It was an innocent question about Pearl.

It wasn't my intent to set off a string of bash the Japanese opponent replies.

While I agree completely and a similar episode with an experienced Japanese opponent as a UV newbie is the reason I have refrained from PBEM play in this game, I already have too much of a reputation as a Japanese player basher for me to allow this spate of bashing to fall on my shoulders.

All I did was ask an innocent question about how PBEMers deal with a protracted Pearl strike.


No problem Hans. I understood your intentions were good

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 2:52:17 AM   
Xxzard

 

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Status: offline 		I notice 8 ida's shot down on the loss report... Did you see what those were doing? I find it a little funny that those 8 are the only ones shot down during the entire war up to this point.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 3:04:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		GreJoy-

Fellow forumite, native of my favorite foreign country I will be going to shortly, gamer, and story teller, I miss your original avatar. That is the GreyJoy I know.. so young and new to the game...The new avatar is rockin'...but you get what I am saying.

I actually think you should get that tatoo, and flash that to your clients who are up against the wall and don't know what to do...."Hold Fast" brother.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 3:04:19 AM   
CaptBeefheart


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Status: offline 		Did you manage to sneak your troops off the northern beachheads or is it a feature of combat replays that not all units show up on the map? Becuase if you did get them off, then kudos.

Cheers,
CC

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 7:44:18 AM   
castor troy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LoBaron


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter
I realize it's far too late for your game, but am just wondering what all the experienced PBEMers here do when faced with a protracted Pearl Harbor strike.


Propose a DaBabes rematch and watch the Japanese player bang his head against an AAA wall.
At least this would be my choice.




uuhh, oohhh, that wall isn't that hard in the beginning as I've just started another PBEM Babes 26B and while already the first strike on PH was devastating, the second one really didn't run into a flak wall either. I really look forward to having my ships flak working better later on.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 8:12:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		The wall was metaphorical.

I have seen DaBabes loss figures large enough to let the Japanese player have second thoughts on the benefit/loss
tradeoff of a second or third day of PH raiding, when taking exposure and attrition into account.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 8:17:40 AM   
GreyJoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Xxzard

I notice 8 ida's shot down on the loss report... Did you see what those were doing? I find it a little funny that those 8 are the only ones shot down during the entire war up to this point.


Yup, Kamikaze against Sagashima shippings.... i didn't post everything cause it wasn't interesting imho...
He uses as Kamikazes the Idas and the Oscars...

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 8:43:03 AM   
GreyJoy


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Another good turn guys.

will try to divide the different fighting pits of these two days...

Rader did a great effort with his subs, trying to interdict my shippings from Hakodate to Sadogashima, placing his dreaded subs in a fire ring around the contested Island.
It ended up in a great series of ASW fights...think we have sunk at least 3 subs and damaged probably 4 more (considering also air ASW), while losing a DE and 2 LSTs.

In the air the our british Spitfires (my Top Gunners) - 49 of them were based, divided into 3 different squadrons, at Sadogashima -, helped by the P-38s on LRCAP from Hakkodate, faced again the power of the japanese air force.
Several sweeps conducted by the best frames Japan can feature, followed by anti-naval and ground attack raids, was not too much for the Angels of Sadogashima. They stood right there, outnumbered and outgunned, till the very last moment.
Losses are high on my side, and we lost several great aces....but again we achieved a great overall result, keeping Sadogashima open and allowing 2 more AA Regiments and 3 Engineers units to safely arrive.
Soon Sadogashima will get to AF lvl 2...which will mean that the local CAP could be brought up to 100 fighters...

But the greatest moments were, as always, on the seas.... Rader tried another time the trick "of the second night"....so to say sending his SCTFs with way points calculated to let the TF arrive right on the second night....
We did the same.
We had 2 DD divisions based at Sadogashima, while 2 more divisions and a SCTF (3 Cleveland Class CLs + 8 DDs) were scheldued to arrive on the first night.
For the second night we had, a part from the 2 local DD divisions, a SCTF composed by the Boise and 2 Cleveland Class CLs, with several Fletcher DDs.

The enemy arrived on the second night... right when our amphib TFs were unloading... our DD divisions were caught unaware and didn't fight well...but they managed to delay the enemy (which put on the field a fast a nimble SCTF composed of 2 CLs and several DDs).
The Boise (Flag ship) TF did very well...especially well did our 3 CLs that mauled the japanese counterparts (pretty sure both of them sunk).
The japanese SCTFs turned back with a bloody nose and our amphib TFs were safe...and they delivered their precious cargos....

Still don't have the turn...only the reply...but i'd say that we achieved another solid 2-1 in the air and a major victory on the sea.







Talk about sub war...
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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 9

Allied Ships
DE Kistna
LST 157
DE Narbada




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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 3, heavy damage

Allied Ships
LST 157
DE Narbada



SS RO-66 is sighted by escort
DE Narbada fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Narbada fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Narbada attacking submerged sub ....
DE Narbada fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Narbada fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub vs Sub: SS I-22 attacking SS Pickerel at 115,56 - near Niigata

Japanese Ships
SS I-22

Allied Ships
SS Pickerel



SS I-22 launches 2 torpedoes at 3,000 yards


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
DE Seid
DE Tisdale
DE Harold C. Thomas



SS I-159 launches 2 torpedoes at DE Seid
I-159 diving deep ....
DE Tisdale fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Harold C. Thomas fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Harold C. Thomas fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Harold C. Thomas fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Harold C. Thomas fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Harold C. Thomas fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Harold C. Thomas fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 15, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Halligan
DD Heermann
DD Healy
DD Hazelwood
DD Haraden



SS I-10 is sighted by escort
DD Heermann attacking submerged sub ....
DD Healy attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hazelwood fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Haraden fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Heermann fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Healy fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Healy attacking submerged sub ....
DD Healy fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Healy attacking submerged sub ....
DD Healy fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-7, hits 30, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD John Henley
DD Johnston
DD Izard
DD Isherwood
DD Irwin



SS I-7 launches 6 torpedoes at DD John Henley
DD Johnston attacking submerged sub ....
DD Izard attacking submerged sub ....
DD Isherwood attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-7 forced to surface!
DD Isherwood firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Irwin firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Johnston firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Izard firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Isherwood firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Irwin firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Johnston firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Izard firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Irwin firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60

Allied Ships
DD Hunt
DD Johnston
DD Izard
DD Isherwood
DD Irwin



SS RO-60 is sighted by escort
DD Johnston fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Izard fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Isherwood fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Irwin fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Johnston fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Johnston fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-171, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Stockham
DD Wadsworth
DD Wadleigh
DD Trathen



SS I-171 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Stockham
I-171 diving deep ....
DD Wadsworth fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Wadleigh fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Trathen fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Trathen fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Trathen attacking submerged sub ....
DD Trathen fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Trathen attacking submerged sub ....
DD Trathen fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Toyama at 113,56

Japanese Ships
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
SS Scamp, hits 6, heavy damage



SS Scamp is sighted by escort
Scamp diving deep ....
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 28, and is sunk

Allied Ships
PF Pueblo
PF Glendale
PF Coronado



SS I-162 is located by PF Pueblo
I-162 diving deep ....
PF Coronado attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-162 forced to surface!
PF Coronado firing on surfaced sub ....
PF Coronado firing on surfaced sub ....
PF Coronado firing on surfaced sub ....
PF Coronado firing on surfaced sub ....
PF Coronado firing on surfaced sub ....
PF Coronado firing on surfaced sub ....
PF Coronado firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves


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ASW attack near Sadogashima at 114,56

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-58, hits 6, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Paul Hamilton
DD Heermann
DD Healy
DD Hazelwood



SSX Ha-58 is sighted by escort
DD Heermann fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Healy attacking submerged sub ....
DD Healy is out of ASW ammo
DD Healy is out of ASW ammo
DD Hazelwood attacking submerged sub ....
Large oil slick appears over area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Toyama at 113,56

Japanese Ships
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
SS Herring, hits 1



SS Herring launches 2 torpedoes
Herring diving deep ....
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hokaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
LCT-470



LCT-470 is sighted by SS I-159
SS I-159 cannot acquire firing solution on enemy LCT


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-3, hits 1

Allied Ships
DM Preble



SS I-3 is sighted by escort
I-3 diving deep ....
DM Preble fails to find sub, continues to search...
DM Preble fails to find sub, continues to search...
DM Preble fails to find sub, continues to search...
DM Preble attacking submerged sub ....
DM Preble fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 5

Allied Ships
SC PC-578
SC PC-1081
SC PC-798



SS I-159 is located by SC PC-578
I-159 diving deep ....
SC PC-1081 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC PC-798 attacking submerged sub ....
SC PC-798 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-798 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-798 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-798 attacking submerged sub ....
SC PC-798 is out of ASW ammo
SC PC-798 is out of ASW ammo
SC PC-798 is out of ASW ammo
SC PC-798 is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
LCT-479, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage



SS I-169 attacking LCT-479 on the surface
Massive explosion on LCT-479


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 5

Allied Ships
SC PC-798
SC PC-1081



SS I-159 is located by SC PC-798
SC PC-1081 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-1081 attacking submerged sub ....
SC PC-1081 is out of ASW ammo
SC PC-1081 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-1081 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-1081 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-171

Allied Ships
SC-1069
SC PC-578



SS I-171 is located by SC-1069
SC PC-578 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-578 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-578 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-578 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC PC-578 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-171, hits 24, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
LST-483
DE Greiner
DE Charles R. Greer
DE Gilmore



SS I-171 is sighted by escort
DE Greiner fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Charles R. Greer fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Charles R. Greer attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-171 forced to surface!
DE Charles R. Greer firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Gilmore firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Greiner firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Gilmore firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Greiner firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Gilmore firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Greiner firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Charles R. Greer firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Gilmore firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Greiner firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Charles R. Greer firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Gilmore firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Greiner firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Charles R. Greer firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Gilmore firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Greiner firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Charles R. Greer firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Gilmore firing on surfaced sub ....
Contact with submarine is lost


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
DE Elden
LST-218
DE William C. Miller



SS I-2 launches 4 torpedoes at DE Elden
DE William C. Miller fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE William C. Miller fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-21, hits 25, heavy damage

Allied Ships
PF Coronado
PF San Pedro



SS I-21 is sighted by escort
I-21 diving deep ....
PF Coronado fails to find sub, continues to search...
PF San Pedro fails to find sub and abandons search
PF Coronado fails to find sub, continues to search...
PF Coronado attacking submerged sub ....
PF Coronado attacking submerged sub ....
PF Coronado fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
LST-482, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


LST-482 is sighted by SS RO-65
SS RO-65 launches 2 torpedoes at LST-482


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-22

Allied Ships
LST-84, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled


LST-84 is sighted by SS I-22
SS I-22 launches 4 torpedoes at LST-84


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ASW attack near Sadogashima at 114,56

Japanese Ships
DD Mochizuki, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Abukuma, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kawakaze
DD Myojinkaze
DD Takatakaze

Allied Ships
SS Cod, hits 7



SS Cod launches 4 torpedoes at DD Mochizuki
DD Myojinkaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
LST-479



LST-479 is sighted by SS I-169
SS I-169 launches 2 torpedoes at LST-479


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
DD Knapp



DD Knapp is sighted by SS I-159
SS I-159 launches 2 torpedoes


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Submarine attack near Niigata at 115,56

Japanese Ships
SS RO-60

Allied Ships
DD Knapp



DD Knapp is sighted by SS RO-60
SS RO-60 launches 2 torpedoes


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Sub attack near Toyama at 113,56

Japanese Ships
DD Kawakaze
DD Takatakaze
DD Myojinkaze

Allied Ships
SS Taurus, hits 1



SS Taurus launches 6 torpedoes at DD Kawakaze
Taurus diving deep ....
DD Myojinkaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Myojinkaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Myojinkaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Myojinkaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Myojinkaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Myojinkaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Myojinkaze is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Toyama at 112,56

Japanese Ships
DD Takatakaze

Allied Ships
SS Tally Ho, hits 2



SS Tally Ho is sighted by escort
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takatakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Toyama at 112,56

Japanese Ships
DD Kawakaze
DD Takatakaze

Allied Ships
SS Jack, hits 1



SS Jack launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kawakaze
DD Takatakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takatakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Toyama at 112,55

Japanese Ships
DD Hayanami
DD Usugumo
DD Yudachi
DD Hayashimo
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Okinami
DD Kishinami
DD Yamanakaze
DD Hikokaze
DD Tachekaze
DD Akebono

Allied Ships
SS Tullibee



SS Tullibee launches 2 torpedoes at DD Hayanami
Tullibee diving deep ....
DD Yamanakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hikokaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tachekaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akebono fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub vs Sub: SS Sunfish attacking SS I-159 at 112,55 - near Toyama

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Sunfish



SS Sunfish launches 4 torpedoes at 4,000 yards



Over the seas...

In the meanwhile our naval bombing campaign in northern japan keeps on going....


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Night Naval bombardment of Hachinohe at 118,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Howe
BB Indiana
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina
CA Louisville
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland

Japanese ground losses:
331 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 34 (6 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1

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Night Naval bombardment of Ominato at 119,54 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

45 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth, Shell hits 2
BB Valiant
CA Shropshire
CA Astoria
CA Chester
CA Houston

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)



Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
Port hits 3



Second night...

The enemy arrives...and we send him back with a bloody nose!

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sadogashima at 114,56, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Agano
CL Abukuma
DD Kishinami
DD Hayanami
DD Okinami
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Hayashimo
DD Yudachi
DD Kawakaze
DD Usugumo
DD Akebono
DD Mochizuki
DD Tachekaze
DD Hikokaze
DD Takatakaze
DD Myojinkaze
DD Yamanakaze

Allied Ships
DD Aulick
DD Charles Ausburne
DD Bache, Shell hits 1
DD Beale, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Bradford, Shell hits 2



Low visibility due to Rain with 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 82% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 5,000 yards

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sadogashima at 114,56, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Agano, Shell hits 1
CL Abukuma
DD Kishinami, Shell hits 1
DD Hayanami
DD Okinami
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Hayashimo
DD Yudachi
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 1
DD Usugumo
DD Akebono
DD Mochizuki
DD Tachekaze
DD Hikokaze
DD Takatakaze
DD Myojinkaze
DD Yamanakaze

Allied Ships
DD Conway
DD Cotten
DD Cowell, Shell hits 1
DD Daly, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
DD Dortch
DD Erben, Shell hits 2, on fire



Low visibility due to Rain with 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 82% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 8,000 yards
Jones P. crosses the 'T'


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sadogashima at 114,56, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Agano, Shell hits 13, heavy fires
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kishinami, on fire
DD Hayanami
DD Okinami
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Hayashimo
DD Yudachi
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 3
DD Usugumo, Shell hits 1
DD Akebono
DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Tachekaze
DD Hikokaze, Shell hits 1
DD Takatakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Myojinkaze
DD Yamanakaze

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 3
CL Columbia, Shell hits 1
CL Miami, Shell hits 2
DD Gatling, Shell hits 1
DD Haggard
DD Halford, Shell hits 3
DD Hopewell, Shell hits 1
DD Hudson, Shell hits 1
DD Knapp, Shell hits 1
DD Leutze, Shell hits 30, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD McCord, Shell hits 1
DD McNair



Low visibility due to Rain with 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 82% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
CL Miami engages CL Abukuma at 8,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Columbia at 8,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Boise at 8,000 yards
DD McNair engages DD Yamanakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD McCord at 8,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Yamanakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Knapp engages DD Takatakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD Hudson at 8,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD Hopewell at 8,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Yamanakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Hopewell engages DD Kawakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Yudachi engages DD Knapp at 8,000 yards
DD Kiyoshimo engages DD McCord at 8,000 yards
DD Okinami engages DD McCord at 8,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Hayanami at 8,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD Hudson at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CL Columbia engages CL Abukuma at 6,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Columbia at 6,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Boise at 6,000 yards
DD Myojinkaze engages DD Knapp at 6,000 yards
DD McCord engages DD Yamanakaze at 6,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Leutze at 6,000 yards
DD Knapp engages DD Okinami at 6,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD McNair at 6,000 yards
DD Okinami engages DD Haggard at 6,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD Gatling at 6,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Halford at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Leutze collides with DD Knapp at 114 , 56
CL Miami engages CL Abukuma at 7,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Miami at 7,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD McCord at 7,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Myojinkaze at 7,000 yards
DD Knapp engages DD Takatakaze at 7,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Yamanakaze at 7,000 yards
DD Tachekaze engages DD Hopewell at 7,000 yards
DD Kiyoshimo engages DD Hudson at 7,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Hopewell at 7,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Halford at 7,000 yards
DD McNair engages DD Kawakaze at 7,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Gatling at 7,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Okinami at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Miami at 9,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Columbia at 9,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD Hudson at 9,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD McNair at 9,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD McCord at 9,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Leutze at 9,000 yards
DD Tachekaze engages DD Knapp at 9,000 yards
DD Hudson engages DD Okinami at 9,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD Hopewell at 9,000 yards
DD Hudson engages DD Usugumo at 9,000 yards
DD Haggard engages DD Usugumo at 9,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Gatling at 9,000 yards
DD Kiyoshimo engages DD Hopewell at 9,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Leutze at 9,000 yards
DD Gatling engages DD Kishinami at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Miami at 10,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Columbia at 10,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Boise at 10,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Myojinkaze at 10,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD McCord at 10,000 yards
DD Hikokaze engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Okinami engages DD Knapp at 10,000 yards
DD Tachekaze engages DD Hudson at 10,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Halford at 10,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Yudachi engages DD McNair at 10,000 yards
DD Hayashimo engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Kiyoshimo engages DD Hudson at 10,000 yards
DD Okinami engages DD Hopewell at 10,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Halford at 10,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Kishinami at 10,000 yards
CL Columbia engages CL Abukuma at 10,000 yards
CL Columbia engages CL Agano at 10,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Boise at 10,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD McNair at 10,000 yards
DD Knapp engages DD Takatakaze at 10,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Knapp at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Hopewell at 10,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Knapp at 10,000 yards
DD Haggard engages DD Kawakaze at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Gatling at 10,000 yards
DD Kiyoshimo engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Okinami at 10,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD McCord at 10,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Miami at 8,000 yards
CL Columbia engages CL Agano at 8,000 yards
DD Myojinkaze engages DD Leutze at 8,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD Leutze at 8,000 yards
DD Tachekaze engages DD McNair at 8,000 yards
DD Hudson engages DD Mochizuki at 8,000 yards
DD Hopewell engages DD Myojinkaze at 8,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD Halford at 8,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Hudson at 8,000 yards
DD Gatling engages DD Takatakaze at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Miami at 9,000 yards
CL Columbia engages CL Agano at 9,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD Leutze at 9,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Myojinkaze at 9,000 yards
DD Kiyoshimo engages DD McCord at 9,000 yards
DD Hikokaze engages DD Knapp at 9,000 yards
DD McCord engages DD Tachekaze at 9,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Hudson at 9,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Hopewell at 9,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Yudachi at 9,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD Haggard at 9,000 yards
DD Yudachi engages DD Gatling at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashimo engages DD Hopewell at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Miami at 11,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Columbia at 11,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD Haggard at 11,000 yards
DD Myojinkaze engages DD Knapp at 11,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD Leutze at 11,000 yards
DD Hikokaze engages DD McCord at 11,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Tachekaze at 11,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Hopewell at 11,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Hopewell at 11,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Halford at 11,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Haggard at 11,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Yudachi at 11,000 yards
DD Hayashimo engages DD Knapp at 11,000 yards
DD Okinami engages DD Leutze at 11,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Kishinami at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
DD Kawakaze collides with DD Mochizuki at 114 , 56
CL Miami engages CL Abukuma at 10,000 yards
CL Columbia engages CL Agano at 10,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Yamanakaze at 10,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD McNair at 10,000 yards
DD Hayashimo engages DD McCord at 10,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Knapp engages DD Tachekaze at 10,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Leutze at 10,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Halford at 10,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Kawakaze at 10,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Gatling at 10,000 yards
DD Hayashimo engages DD McCord at 10,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Kiyoshimo at 10,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Halford at 10,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD McCord at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Miami at 6,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Agano at 6,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Abukuma at 6,000 yards
DD Myojinkaze engages DD McNair at 6,000 yards
DD Tachekaze engages DD McCord at 6,000 yards
DD Gatling engages DD Hikokaze at 6,000 yards
DD Hayashimo engages DD Knapp at 6,000 yards
DD Hudson engages DD Mochizuki at 6,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Leutze at 6,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Halford at 6,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Kawakaze at 6,000 yards
DD Yudachi engages DD Leutze at 6,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Okinami at 6,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Kishinami at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Miami at 7,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Columbia at 7,000 yards
DD Yamanakaze engages DD Leutze at 7,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD McNair at 7,000 yards
DD Hikokaze engages DD McCord at 7,000 yards
DD Hikokaze engages DD Leutze at 7,000 yards
DD Tachekaze engages DD Leutze at 7,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD Hudson at 7,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Akebono at 7,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Leutze at 7,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Halford at 7,000 yards
DD Yudachi engages DD Leutze at 7,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Leutze at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Boise at 8,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Columbia at 8,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Yamanakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Myojinkaze engages DD Hudson at 8,000 yards
DD McCord engages DD Takatakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Hikokaze engages DD Knapp at 8,000 yards
DD Knapp engages DD Tachekaze at 8,000 yards
DD Hudson engages DD Kawakaze at 8,000 yards
DD Hopewell engages DD Akebono at 8,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Halford at 8,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Knapp at 8,000 yards
DD Gatling engages DD Tachekaze at 8,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD Gatling at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Miami engages CL Abukuma at 9,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Boise at 9,000 yards
DD Hudson engages DD Yamanakaze at 9,000 yards
DD Myojinkaze engages DD McNair at 9,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD McCord at 9,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Leutze at 9,000 yards
DD Knapp engages DD Mochizuki at 9,000 yards
DD Hudson engages DD Takatakaze at 9,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Hopewell at 9,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Hopewell at 9,000 yards
DD Haggard engages DD Kawakaze at 9,000 yards
DD Gatling engages DD Takatakaze at 9,000 yards
DD McNair engages DD Okinami at 9,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Hayanami at 9,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD Leutze at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Miami engages CL Abukuma at 11,000 yards
CL Columbia engages CL Agano at 11,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Boise at 11,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD McNair at 11,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Takatakaze at 11,000 yards
DD Okinami engages DD Leutze at 11,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Hudson at 11,000 yards
DD Hopewell engages DD Hayashimo at 11,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD McCord at 11,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Haggard at 11,000 yards
DD Gatling engages DD Kishinami at 11,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Hayashimo at 11,000 yards
DD Okinami engages DD McCord at 11,000 yards
DD Leutze engages DD Hayanami at 11,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD Knapp at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages CL Miami at 12,000 yards
CL Agano engages CL Columbia at 12,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Abukuma at 12,000 yards
DD McNair engages DD Mochizuki at 12,000 yards
DD Takatakaze engages DD Leutze at 12,000 yards
DD Halford engages DD Hikokaze at 12,000 yards
DD Yudachi engages DD Knapp at 12,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Hudson at 12,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Hopewell at 12,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Halford at 12,000 yards
DD Myojinkaze engages DD Haggard at 12,000 yards
DD Kishinami engages DD Gatling at 12,000 yards
DD Hayanami engages DD Halford at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...










...while in the air


We sunk Ominato under a carpet bombing....
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Morning Air attack on Ominato , at 119,54

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes


Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 12
Spitfire VIII x 25
Spitfire VIII x 25
F4U-1D Corsair x 14
B-24J Liberator x 171
B-29-1 Superfort x 119


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled



Airbase hits 77
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 215
Port hits 151
Port fuel hits 16
Port supply hits 10




While at Sadogashima the Angels keep on fighting...

1st day battles...

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Afternoon Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 159 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 29



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 40
P-38J Lightning x 16
P-38L Lightning x 68


Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 63
D4Y4 Judy x 54
N1K1-J George x 4



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 40
P-38J Lightning x 16
P-38L Lightning x 59


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 25 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 20 destroyed, 5 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Luce
DD Morrison


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Afternoon Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 7



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 34
P-38J Lightning x 15
P-38L Lightning x 55


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 3 destroyed


second day battles

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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 48



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 31
P-38J Lightning x 15
P-38L Lightning x 71


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 49



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 29
P-38J Lightning x 12
P-38L Lightning x 61


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 151 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 21
D4Y4 Judy x 10
J7W1 Shinden x 13
N1K1-J George x 2



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 27
P-38J Lightning x 12
P-38L Lightning x 58


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 8 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 3 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 179 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 28
A7M2 Sam x 73
J7W1 Shinden x 1



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 21
P-38J Lightning x 11
P-38L Lightning x 51


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 5 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 150 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 16
A7M2 Sam x 6
J7W1 Shinden x 7



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 15
P-38J Lightning x 5
P-38L Lightning x 42


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 4 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 191 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 69



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
P-38J Lightning x 4
P-38L Lightning x 36


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-38L Lightning: 4 destroyed




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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 11
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 170
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 24
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 162



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 8
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-38L Lightning x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 2 damaged
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed on ground
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 34
Port hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 155 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 1
Ki-83 x 39
Ki-84a Frank x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 20



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-38L Lightning x 3


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 1
Ki-83 x 3
Ki-100-I Tony x 6



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 88 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J7W1 Shinden x 1
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 8
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20



Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged

No Allied losses


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Port supply hits 1




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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 159 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 13
A6M5c Zero x 24
D4Y3 Judy x 45
D4Y4 Judy x 3
J7W1 Shinden x 1



Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 11
P-38L Lightning x 49


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 8 destroyed
D4Y3 Judy: 11 destroyed, 4 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak
D4Y4 Judy: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DE Emery, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dortch
DD Cowell
DD Erben
DD Conway
DD Daly
DD Cotten






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ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Did you manage to sneak your troops off the northern beachheads or is it a feature of combat replays that not all units show up on the map? Becuase if you did get them off, then kudos.

Cheers,
CC



No mate, it'a a reply feature...my boys are still there unfortunately...the CD guns are so deadly that i don't try to evacuate...

But being there means Rader cannot moves out too...so it's a double edged blade

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 11:33:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LoBaron

The wall was metaphorical.

I have seen DaBabes loss figures large enough to let the Japanese player have second thoughts on the benefit/loss
tradeoff of a second or third day of PH raiding, when taking exposure and attrition into account.



my opponent has lost less aircraft in two days in my PBEM (same the other two Babes PBEM I have started) than real life losses in one day. Flak at PH wouldn't keep me from sinking more battleships, not even if I would lose twice the number of bombers, easily replacable and 70 skilled pilots work perfectly.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 11:37:18 AM   
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If you can find out where, a night time port attack may need to be ordered.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 12:23:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Which port are his damaged ships returning to??
If you can find out where, a night time port attack may need to be ordered.


At the moment we're still testing the night bombing effetcs Micheal...so i won't do these kind of attacks untill we have agreed on an HR that is liked by bith us us.

Anyway guys...i've made some calculations...

from October 18 to October 28, Rader has lost 2560 planes, against my 650...(included the great CVs defeat...)

How long can he stands these incredible losses? I mean...we know he has infinite numbers of planes...but what about the pilots? He's being fighting over allied controlled lands...so something like 1250 pilots lost

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 12:35:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		every turn i'm becoming more positive about Sadogashima and its importance.

It became exactly what i wanted to...a fighting field to attritt the japanese forces.
Rader has gotten a couple of bloody noses with his Navy and his AirArmy is crushing its teeth on the wall built by our "Angels".
My losses are high but i'm rotating every day the air units (and so the plane types) involved in the air battles so my pools aren't suffering that much.
My Pilots pool is getting better and better with several new aces every day....

...this is just from the very last turn...

SLDR Woodroffe L. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 51
1LT Gold C. of 318th FG/333rd FS is credited with kill number 11
CPT French C. of 318th FG/333rd FS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Dionne E. of 348th FG/340th FS is credited with kill number 2
SLDR Lee, K.N. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 6
2LT Hall H. of 318th FG/333rd FS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Simo W. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 4
2LT Hall D. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 3
SLDR Harpole J. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 18
WCDR Kershaw A. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 52
SLDR Lee, K.N. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 7
AVM Sloan S. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 29
WO Walker, G.A. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2
WO Walker, G.A. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
2LT Christie U. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 6
CPT Cragg, E. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 6
1LT Turner, W.W. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 4
PO MacNamara, G.C.S. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 6
WO Drake B. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
PO MacNamara, G.C.S. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 7
AM Stone, C.A.C of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 23
WCDR Kershaw A. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 53
SLDR Woodroffe U. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
PO Moorhead V. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
MAJ Foshee, B.C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 8
2LT Holt C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 3
WO Hackett H. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WO Lockwood, G. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WO Hackett H. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4
CPT Cragg, E. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 7
CPT Ellett U. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Brors K. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 5
2LT Brors K. of 348th FG/342nd FS attains ace status!!
2LT Thanos P. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Bong, R.I. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 10
WCDR Hicks J. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 4
PO Campbell I. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
FO Abbott W. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
FO Stevenson E. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 6
FO Goodwin F. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2
PO Campbell I. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
PO Dobbins N. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
WCDR Fenton R. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 7
PO Gilmour E. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
MAJ Conroy B. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 7
SLDR Batchelor, E. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
1LT Johnson R. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Lewis B. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 4
CPT Kramer T. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 6
CPT Kramer T. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 7
1LT Keith T. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Edwards T. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Howard O. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Ellis K. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 5
CPT Ellis K. of 51st FG/16th FS attains ace status!!
1LT Turner, W.W. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 5
1LT Turner, W.W. of 8th FG/80th FS attains ace status!!
MAJ Foshee, B.C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 9
MAJ Daniels E. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 5
MAJ Daniels E. of 33rd FG/60th FS attains ace status!!
1LT Hastey, R. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 7
2LT Gray D. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Morgan F. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 5
2LT Morgan F. of 80th FG/90th FS attains ace status!!
CPT Ingram R. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Keith T. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Vebber G. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Blair R. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Hamilton J. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Thanos P. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Edwards T. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Ellett W. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 3
MAJ Conroy U. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 3
FLT Gilchrist O. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 27
CPT Ellard M. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 7
CPT Ellard M. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 8
CPT Jenkins F. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 4
CPT Harper V. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 6
2LT Christie U. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 7
1LT Turner, W.W. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 6
WCDR Dobbins T. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
FLT Gilchrist O. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 28
1LT Blair R. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Conkling K. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
MAJ Foshee, B.C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 10
MAJ Foshee, B.C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 11
1LT Hastey, R. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 8
CPT Jenkins F. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 5
CPT Jenkins F. of 312th BG/386th BS  attains ace status!!
CPT Jenkins F. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 6
CPT Harper V. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 7
CPT Daley C. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 2
FLT Gilchrist O. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 29
WO Hardie, G. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WO Hardie, G. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4
1LT Ellett W. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 4
CPT Wilder M. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Blair R. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 4
SLDR Lee, K.N. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 8
CPT Daley C. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 3
AVM Sloan S. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 30
2LT Burke B. of 341st BG/22nd BS is credited with kill number 2
MAJ Jackson H. of 21st FG/531st FS is credited with kill number 3
MAJ Jones F. of 21st FG/531st FS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Landry W. of 348th FG/340th FS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Peck L. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 2
LTJG Underwood D. of VC(F)-86 is credited with kill number 6
AM Cooper-Slipper, T.P. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 47
CPT Christie B. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 3
FLT Gilchrist O. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 30
1LT Cole, T. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 8
CPT Flowers D. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Daniels J. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 8
WCDR Fenton R. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 8
WO Gilchrist D. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2
1LT Porter U. of 348th FG/340th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Edwards T. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 2
WCDR Dobbins T. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
WO Cheshire D. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 4
CPT Edwards T. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Browning R. of 318th FG/333rd FS is credited with kill number 7
GCPT Glynn, K.A. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 49
CPT Schwanebeck A. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Morrison L. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 15
CPT Morrison L. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 16
WCDR Dobbins T. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 4
AM Cooper-Slipper, T.P. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 48
AM Cooper-Slipper, T.P. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 49
WCDR Fisher T. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 50
FO Baxter E.J. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
1LT Rancke, H.C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 12
SLDR Ennis C. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
2LT Harper L. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 2
SLDR Woodroffe U. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
WO Gifford A. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 6
WO Kershaw C. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
FO Warren A. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
CPT Harper M. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 16
SLDR Ennis C. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
WO Kershaw C. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
FO Warren A. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
WO Gilchrist D. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WCDR Fenton R. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 9
SLDR Woodroffe U. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 4
CPT Kramer T. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 8
SLDR Ennis C. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 4
WCDR Dobbins T. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 5
WCDR Dobbins T. of No.888 Sqn FAA attains ace status!!
CPT Schwanebeck A. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 3
SLDR Batchelor, E. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4
1LT Bryan A. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 4
2LT Landry M. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 3
MAJ Howard E. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 13
FO Fenton W. of No.261 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4
CPT Morrison H. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Peck L. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 3
PO Middelton A. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
FO Warren A. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 4
PO Reid D. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
WCDR Kershaw A. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 54
1LT Peck L. of 80th FG/90th FS is credited with kill number 4
WO Burgess W. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 2
CPT Hamilton J. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 6
CPT Edwards J. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 7
CPT Morrison L. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 17
2LT Thanos A. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Edwards T. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 4
WO Burgess W. of No.888 Sqn FAA is credited with kill number 3
2LT Keith G. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Boain A. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 4
CPT Koonce A. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 11
2LT Boain A. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 5
2LT Boain A. of 51st FG/16th FS attains ace status!!
CPT Morgan O. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 5
CPT Morgan O. of 8th FG/80th FS attains ace status!!
AVM Sharp, D.J.T. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 49
2LT Hubble L. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Keith G. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Hubble L. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 4
AVM Sharp, D.J.T. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 50
AM Cooper-Slipper, T.P. of No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA is credited with kill number 50
CPT Browning R. of 318th FG/333rd FS is credited with kill number 8
MAJ O'Brien, F.S. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 4
MAJ Howard E. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 14
1LT Johnson R. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Kroll R. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 4
2LT Daley F. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Ellett U. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Boain C. of 348th FG/340th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Brown, M.M. of 348th FG/340th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Koonce R. of 348th FG/340th FS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Lewis B. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 5
2LT Lewis B. of 51st FG/16th FS attains ace status!!
1LT Wirth V. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Lewis B. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 6
2LT Holt E. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Gregor S. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 2
2LT Holt C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 4
MAJ Ellett A. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 2
MAJ Tapner K. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 11
2LT Gregor S. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 3
MAJ Kramer B. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 2
2LT Gregor S. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 4
CPT Ellard M. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 9
2LT Holt C. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 5
2LT Holt C. of 33rd FG/60th FS attains ace status!!
MAJ Tapner K. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 12
MAJ O'Brien, F.S. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 5
MAJ O'Brien, F.S. of 80th FG/88th FS attains ace status!!
MAJ O'Brien, F.S. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 6
MAJ O'Brien, F.S. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 7
MAJ Morgan F. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Koonce R. of 348th FG/340th FS is credited with kill number 4
CPT Harper V. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 8
1LT Flowers N. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT Banfield, K. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 6
CPT Gibbons U. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Gibbons U. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 3
MAJ Dobbs P. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 13
2LT Banfield, K. of 8th FG/80th FS is credited with kill number 7
2LT Lewis B. of 51st FG/16th FS is credited with kill number 7
1LT Burke K. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 3
CPT Hubble V. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 2
2LT French C. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 4
MAJ Morgan F. of 80th FG/88th FS is credited with kill number 3
2LT Andrews C. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Burke K. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 4
1LT Flowers N. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 3
1LT Burke K. of 348th FG/342nd FS is credited with kill number 5
1LT Burke K. of 348th FG/342nd FS attains ace status!!
CPT Ellard M. of 312th BG/386th BS  is credited with kill number 10
1LT Murphy, J.B. of 33rd FG/60th FS is credited with kill number 3

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 12:38:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		My old friend Cooper-Sliper is still fighting...after 3 hospitalizations...he fought for the whole Battle of India, over Tulagi and over Rekata Bay...and now he's back at Sadogashima...with the usual killer instinct

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 1:23:27 PM   
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from October 18 to October 28, Rader has lost 2560 planes, against my 650...(included the great CVs defeat...)

How long can he stands these incredible losses? I mean...we know he has infinite numbers of planes...but what about the pilots? He's being fighting over allied controlled lands...so something like 1250 pilots lost

His pilots are probably of quite low quality now. Maybe they averaged 60 at the start of the campaign, then dropped to 50 after a few weeks, now it might be 40. Won't go much lower than that but it doesn't seem to matter. Like Stalin said, "Quantity has a Quality all it's own". I'm sure the Wehrmacht started to wonder why there was no bottom of the barrel of Soviet Tanks about October 1941. There is never going to be a day when he can't throw hundreds of aircraft against you. So if there is no practical limitation on pilots on both sides, and a practical limit of aircraft on only one side, who is at a disadvantage? I guess you will just have to be smarter. Either win the air war knowing this limitation or find a way to win other than the air.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 1:26:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

quote:

from October 18 to October 28, Rader has lost 2560 planes, against my 650...(included the great CVs defeat...)

How long can he stands these incredible losses? I mean...we know he has infinite numbers of planes...but what about the pilots? He's being fighting over allied controlled lands...so something like 1250 pilots lost

His pilots are probably of quite low quality now. Maybe they averaged 60 at the start of the campaign, then dropped to 50 after a few weeks, now it might be 40. Won't go much lower than that but it doesn't seem to matter. Like Stalin said, "Quantity has a Quality all it's own". I'm sure the Wehrmacht started to wonder why there was no bottom of the barrel of Soviet Tanks about October 1941. There is never going to be a day when he can't throw hundreds of aircraft against you. So if there is no practical limitation on pilots on both sides, and a practical limit of aircraft on only one side, who is at a disadvantage? I guess you will just have to be smarter. Either win the air war knowing this limitation or find a way to win other than the air.


But my pilots will then get better and better...which means that i will compensate the quality gap of my planes with the quality advantage of my pilots... which is a good thing imho!

The idea is that, once Sadogashima is secured and built up to level 7, i will be able to land another strong invasion force without the need of CVEs or CVs...

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 1:50:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Takes about 3 months to train a pilot to air skill 70, so you have to inflict greater damage on his pilot pools than however many he can train in that time.

Seems like a tall order normally but the numbers involved in this game are BIG.

I have no real idea what Japans capability for training pilots is. I am led to believe that is considerably greater than the Allied ability to train pilots as they have more and bigger squadrons that can be used for on map training. However they lose a lot more pilots too, in their balsa wood planes. Still... if you eased back presumably in 3 months time he'd be back to fully trained pilots again so you just have to maintain the pressure and not give him that window.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 2:26:27 PM   
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Which port are his damaged ships returning to??
If you can find out where, a night time port attack may need to be ordered.


At the moment we're still testing the night bombing effetcs Micheal...so i won't do these kind of attacks untill we have agreed on an HR that is liked by bith us us.

Anyway guys...i've made some calculations...

from October 18 to October 28, Rader has lost 2560 planes, against my 650...(included the great CVs defeat...)

How long can he stands these incredible losses? I mean...we know he has infinite numbers of planes...but what about the pilots? He's being fighting over allied controlled lands...so something like 1250 pilots lost


GreyJoy-

There is no doubt is pilot quality is low, but so long as he holds the territory he does, he will be able to produce aircraft that you won't even put a dent in.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 3:01:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent to see Cooper-Slipper still ripping it up. Also, if you look close, you can see one 1LT Bong, R.I. has ten kills. That's well short of his 40 in real life, but hey, there's still plenty of time, eh?

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 4:03:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		He lost many many ACs over his own bases which safed alot of pilots. However I doubt he can keep up training navy pilots. There are simply not enough squadrons for training to replace these loses.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 4:06:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes guys, i know i cannot look at the plane losses...but the more pilots he lose over my lands, the more my pilots get stronger. And we're just seeing what this mean...his Shidens, for example, which are far superior to anything i can put on line, are falling like dead bugs against my Top Gunners.
So this whole process is helping me a lot in negating him the quality edge he has taken with his last generation of fighters.

As long as i proceed over these lines, i think i can put a solid basis of air predomination once the P-51s and the new P-47Ns will become available

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 4:11:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would also say Rader has a firm grip on Japanese production,training and logistics. He is doing an amazing job there.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 2/1/2012 4:13:42 PM   
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He lost many many ACs over his own bases which safed alot of pilots. However I doubt he can keep up training navy pilots. There are simply not enough squadrons for training to replace these loses.


Well, the very last 2500 planes lost by Japan were shot down over ocean waters or over Sadogashima (so allied hands)....i count at least 1000 pilots lost in one week....

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