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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 1/30/2012 4:10:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		yup, though I was thinking it was the Michel, not the Komet? and of course the trick part of the question was that at the time the USSR wasn't yet one of the Allies. whichever one it was, their journey was not completely 'at sea' as after the passage of the Bering Strait, it docked in Japan. [I like to send German CX units to Japanese bases outside of Japan where no FTC is required; Saipan is a good one for this]

I had a much better question for that unit, but now I blew it already - what WiF unit sailed off the map?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 1/30/2012 5:21:46 AM   
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Pocket Battleship Admiral Scheer ~ most successful capital ship commerce raider
10/28/40 - 04/01/41 (155 days)
45,896 nautical miles (85,000km) sank seventeen merchant ships for a total of 113,223 GRT

Orion (HSK 1) (Schiff 36)
04/06/40 - 02/01/41 (301 days) Maug Island, in the Marianas Islands
02/01/41 - 07/23/41 (479 days)
127,337 nautical miles (235,828km) Sank ten ships with a combined tonnage of 62,915 gross register tons (GRT), plus two more (totaling 21,125 GRT) in cooperation with Komet

Atlantis (HSK 2) (Schiff 16)
03/31/40 - 12/25/40 (269 days) Kerguelen Island, Indian Ocean
12/25/40 - 11/21/41 (600 days) sunk
86,898 nautical miles (160,934 km) sank or captured 22 ships totaling 144,384 tons (142,104 long tons)

Wider (HSK 3) (Schiff 21)
05/06/40 - 10/31/40 (179 days)
Sank or captured ten ships, totalling 58,644 GRT



Thor (HSK 4) (Schiff 10) <==== Longest time at sea =====
06/06/40 - 04/30/41 (328 days)
1st Cruise ~ 57,532 nautical miles (106,549km) Sank or captured 12 ships, for a combined tonnage of 96,547 GRT
11/30/41 - 10/09/42 (313 days)
2nd Cruise ~ Sank or captured 10 ships, for a combined tonnage of 58,644 GRT



Pinguin (HSK 5) (Schiff 33)
06/15/40 - 05/08/41 (327 days)
Over 51,270 nautical miles (94,951km) Sank or captured 28 ships, for a combined tonnage of 136,642 GRT. Sank four ships by mines, a total of 18,068 GRT

Stier (HSK 6) (Schiff 23)
05/10/42 - 09/27/42 (141 days)
Sank 4 ships of 29,409 tons (GRT).

Komet (HSK 7) (Schiff 45)
07/03/40 - 11/01/40 (121 days) Refuels in Japan
11/01/40 - 11/30/41 (515 days)
100,000 nautical miles (190,000 km) Komet and Orion five Allied merchant ships, with a combined tonnage of about 41,000 tons, that had been waiting off the island of Nauru to load phosphate (of which Komet sank three). Cooperating with the Orion, she sank two more British ships in August 1941 and captured the Dutch 7,300 ton freighter Kota Nopan which was sent as a prize to Bordeaux. FYI 950,000 Reichsmarks for Soviet assistance in using the Northern Sea Route

Kormoran (HSK 8) (Schiff 41)
12/03/40 - 11/19/41 (325 days) Sunk
Sank 12 ships, with a combined tonnage of about 75,375 GRT and Light Cruiser HMAS Sydney

Michel (HSK 9) (Schiff 28)
03/20/42 - 02/10/43 (327 days) stop at Batavia, Japanese occupied NEI
02/10/43 - 03/02/43 (348 days)
1st Cruise ~ Sank 15 allied ships, with a combined tonnage of about 99,000 GRT
05/01/43 - 10/17/43 (169 days)
2nd Cruise ~ Sank three ships, with a combined tonnage of about 27,632 GRT

Coronel (HSK 10) (Schiff 14)
Attempted cruise but turned back to German ports





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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 1:03:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK I thought up a pair of land questions for a change.

What German division made it the farthest east?

What German division advanced the farthest into the Soviet Union?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 2:11:10 AM   
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OK I thought up a pair of land questions for a change.

What German division made it the farthest east? You don't mean the Divisions that were marched off into the POW camps in the east?

What German division advanced the farthest into the Soviet Union?


Spent a whole hour pouring through my books, no luck so far. All I gathered that it must belong to Heeresgruppe A, fighting near the oil fields. But as it's now 3:10 am I'm off to bed.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 3:56:45 AM   
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OK I thought up a pair of land questions for a change.

What German division made it the farthest east?

What German division advanced the farthest into the Soviet Union?



I think I actually know this;

Farthest east - 16th inf div (mot)

Farthest into the SU - 13th panzer division. If I'm not mistaken they were less than 60 miles from Grozny, at a place I won't even try to write correctly...

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 3:57:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		though I like the trick question some times, no tricks. just the combat unit that made it the farthest east and lived to tell about it. their parent division, actually. it's not much of a hint to say it was a reconnaissance abteilung = battalion. they may have smelled salt air but they didn't see any blue water, at least not the land unit. there is an Axis naval unit involved too. What was it?

the farthest into the Soviet Union is a different answer.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 4:09:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		while I was typing that one niclasil got it correct on both counts. 13th Panzer was actually farther from the German border, just across the Tevek River I believe, than 16th Motorised was when it got the farthest east.

What Axis naval unit was along with the 16th Mot Recon? That is from a little sketchier bit of info.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 10:37:50 AM   
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while I was typing that one niclasil got it correct on both counts. 13th Panzer was actually farther from the German border, just across the Tevek River I believe, than 16th Motorised was when it got the farthest east.

What Axis naval unit was along with the 16th Mot Recon? That is from a little sketchier bit of info.

The 16th mot was nicknamed "Windhund-Division" the "Greyhound Div" because of their speed and far advance.


I know we are not allowed to use Google,(frowned upon) but may we use pages in the net that have not been googled such as our bookmarks?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 2:27:27 PM   
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That said, I'm playing an advanced form for Axis and Allies with 3-4 friends a couple of times each year - we're playing World at War with almost 100% changed rules, and we got into a discussion last time about how far the Germans actually got before they were turned back. So, I learned this one two months ago, but we did google it back then.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 7:13:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		A political WW II question: a German died in the Netherlands on the 4th. of juni 1941, being held under house arrest.

Who was he and what did Adolf Hitler send to the funeral against the deceased last wishes?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 7:37:31 PM   
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A political WW II question: a German died in the Netherlands on the 4th. of juni 1941, being held under house arrest.

Who was he and what did Adolf Hitler send to the funeral against the deceased last wishes?

It was the Kaiser Wilhelm 2
Hitler sent a wreath.


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 7:54:14 PM   
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quote:

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A political WW II question: a German died in the Netherlands on the 4th. of juni 1941, being held under house arrest.

Who was he and what did Adolf Hitler send to the funeral against the deceased last wishes?

It was the Kaiser Wilhelm 2
Hitler sent a wreath.


Mat

The name and what Hitler send is correct. But why was that against the deceased last wishes?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 8:02:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Although the Kaiser was overjoyed that Hilter had conquered France in such a short time, he hated the Nazi regime. I think he was also appalled that a Bömische Corporal ruled over the Army and Germany.
If I'm not mistaken Wilhelm was still upset that he had to leave Germany and live a simple life in Holland. He never visited Germany at all.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 9:03:20 PM   
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Although the Kaiser was overjoyed that Hilter had conquered France in such a short time, he hated the Nazi regime. I think he was also appalled that a Bömische Corporal ruled over the Army and Germany.
If I'm not mistaken Wilhelm was still upset that he had to leave Germany and live a simple life in Holland. He never visited Germany at all.

Mat

The moment he would try to enter Germany, Hitler would have him arrested. Also: when the Germans conquered the Netherlands a special unit was gathered to guard the castle of Doorn to prevent him leaving there. Hitler didn't want him anywhere in Germany at all. The Kaiser also made a vow never to return to Germany and even forbid the returning of his remains to Germany if the Monarchy wasn't restored first. That a Bömisches Corporal ruled over Germany was appalling to him, but so was the Weimar Régime or President Hindenburg in his eyes.
You are still right about the Kaiser hating the Nazi Regime. However: there was one very particular statement made in his wishes, regarding his funeral. This has to do with the wreath, but it wasn't the wreath itself that was against his wishes...

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 9:30:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did the wreath have a Nazi swastika on it? If memory seves, Wilhelm II wrote about several cultures in the Indian subcontinent (or thereabouts) which used swastikas as holy symbols; it turned out that the Nazi swastika was an inverted version of these symbols, and the inversion was thought to symbolize ill-fortune.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 10:17:21 PM   
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Did the wreath have a Nazi swastika on it? If memory seves, Wilhelm II wrote about several cultures in the Indian subcontinent (or thereabouts) which used swastikas as holy symbols; it turned out that the Nazi swastika was an inverted version of these symbols, and the inversion was thought to symbolize ill-fortune.

Yes, it did. The Kaiser didn't want any swastika to appear at his funeral. If that was because of religious or political reasons, is unknown.

The remains of the last German Kaiser are still in the mausoleum in Doorn, waiting for the day the monarchy will be restored in Germany...

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/3/2012 11:00:08 PM   
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Did the wreath have a Nazi swastika on it? If memory seves, Wilhelm II wrote about several cultures in the Indian subcontinent (or thereabouts) which used swastikas as holy symbols; it turned out that the Nazi swastika was an inverted version of these symbols, and the inversion was thought to symbolize ill-fortune.

Yes, it did. The Kaiser didn't want any swastika to appear at his funeral. If that was because of religious or political reasons, is unknown.

The remains of the last German Kaiser are still in the mausoleum in Doorn, waiting for the day the monarchy will be restored in Germany...


just thought ...

are the still a blood line to the German monarchy

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/4/2012 12:04:14 AM   
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There are still princes here in Germany. Check out Prinz Ernst August.
He's always involved in some kind of scandal.

But the "royals" don't really have much power, they more or less just have their lands and status.


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/4/2012 1:34:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I always thought 13th Panzer also made it the farthest east and read something recently about that actually being the 16th Mot. I went on to the net to get the details, and the details included a convoy of blue trucks advancing along with the 16th Mot's recon. On the blue trucks were said to be a squadron of Italian motor torpedo boats to launch in the Caspian Sea. I don't know how that turned out, just something I read online. Had never heard of that before.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/5/2012 10:10:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		On 3 January 1993 the people of St. Nazaire honored Alan Magee and the crew of his bomber by erecting a 6-foot tall memorial to the.
Magee was the ball gunner of the B-17. Why was he so honoured?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/6/2012 9:53:31 PM   
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Verrrrry interesting!


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 2:57:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Reading about this famous war again. ezz's question sounds interesting but I have never heard of the man. St Nazaire makes me think of a different bit of Allied equipment than a bomber.

Who was the first Allied General to enter Rome?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 4:52:17 AM   
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Reading about this famous war again. ezz's question sounds interesting but I have never heard of the man. St Nazaire makes me think of a different bit of Allied equipment than a bomber.

Who was the first Allied General to enter Rome?

As a POW or Free?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 4:52:52 AM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 2:46:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		you guys are sharp. had forgot the possible POW angle. no Vichy or Vlassov. entered Rome under orders from his high command.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 3:10:49 PM   
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(1) Check with the Ministry of War Transportation (MoWT).
(2) Check what they are carrying.
(3) The troops are getting in the boats.
(4) They carry landing craft.



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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 3:51:47 PM   
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Who was the first Allied General to enter Rome?


Mmmm Clarke lost his command after Anzio, I would try Montgomery but probably I am wrong (again).


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 4:02:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Would it have been possible that a General entered Rome to negotiate with the Germans before Rome was liberated by the Allies?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 6:56:40 PM   
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Would it have been possible that a General entered Rome to negotiate with the Germans before Rome was liberated by the Allies?


or negociate with the italians or with the 5th column? (spies, intelligence from the mafia)?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/7/2012 8:52:10 PM   
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you guys are sharp. had forgot the possible POW angle. no Vichy or Vlassov. entered Rome under orders from his high command.

We're not that sharp. It's just that you've developed a reputation.

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