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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 1:23:59 AM

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....and I have the golden ticket

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 3:26:11 AM

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Uhh, you could personally be assigned as a crewman aboard one of those AKs?

Well, they DID get two free drinks and were warned by that nice Rupert from the Royal Navy that there was a soupcon of danger. A contract is a contract.

Plus there is the wreckage of that R-class to cling to should they make it to Port Hedland.

The RN has reinstituted the press gangs

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 6:32:57 AM

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wreckage of that R-class

It's a breakwater. Duh.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 2:55:33 PM

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Yeah..good point. In an amazing display of prescience, the Allied Command has provided a breakwater at our landing beaches.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 3:00:33 PM

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Here is the problem. None of our air sorties went in over PH yesterday. Not even the night raids.

All 4 airfields, Meekathara, Exmouth, Carnovan and Geraldton have Air HQ prepped for PH. Except for Geraldton, the strike aircraft match the Air HQ's for the field at which they are based. None are overstacked, All have supply. The CO's are the biggest fire breathers we can find (except Chennault..don't know where he is).

I might actually have to watch the combat replay.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 3:08:53 PM

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Do a mouse-over of PH. What was the weather for today? Individual hexes can vary significantly from the weather forecast. If planes from all those base didn't fly it might have been the weather over the target.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 7:52:45 PM

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Not even the night raids.

This might account for some of it:

3 x No.18 Sqn RAAF B-25C Mitchell stray due to night
4 x 22nd BG/2nd BS B-26 Marauder stray due to night
3 x 22nd BG/33rd BS B-25C Mitchell stray due to night
6 x 11th BG/98th BS B-24D Liberator stray due to night
8 x 90th BG/319th BS B-24D Liberator stray due to night
3 x 90th BG/320th BS B-24D Liberator stray due to night
3 x 5th BG/394th BS B-24D Liberator stray due to night
3 x 90th BG/400th BS B-24D Liberator stray due to night
5 x 28th CG/404th BS B-24D Liberator stray due to night
4 x 38th BG/405th BS B-25C Mitchell stray due to night

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 7:54:27 PM

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the Allied Command has provided a breakwater at our landing beaches.

Just watch, some git in Europe will say they invented it and call it some stupid name like Loganberry or Kumquat.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 7:57:18 PM

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the Allied Command has provided a breakwater at our landing beaches.

Just watch, some git in Europe will say they invented it and call it some stupid name like Loganberry or Kumquat.

Ham and Jam?

ETA: No, that was some other ridiculous nonsensical limey code phrase.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 9:27:02 PM

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Do a mouse-over of PH. What was the weather for today? Individual hexes can vary significantly from the weather forecast. If planes from all those base didn't fly it might have been the weather over the target.

OK, here's what I found with mouseover....

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 9:32:32 PM

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I call foul on that! Clearly that was a rat, not a mouse. No one called for a "rat-over" of the target hex.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 9:42:43 PM

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Nope, that is most definitely an M4-"Easy Eight" Mouse. We have PDU on.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 9:47:44 PM

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Are you sure it's not the RO Dent?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 11:12:51 PM

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/1/2012 11:15:38 PM

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As long as it is not the Maus... I don't think that your 2lber AT rifles will have much effect on that one!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/2/2012 12:27:21 AM

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With all due repsect, I think our boys can handle anything the Japs throw at us. (Gen. McArthur)

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/2/2012 12:07:57 PM

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I've always loved the irony of calling a 150kg rugby lock "Shortie" or "Tiny".

Imagine some freakish alternate history where the German Ministry of Armaments managed to continue and complete the Landkreuzer P. 1500 "Monster".

42 metres long.

18 metres wide.

1500 tons heavy.

A crew of 100.

Main armament a 800mm K (E) gun, with secondary armament of two 15cm sFH 18/1 L/30 howitzers. Tertiary armament multiple 15mm MG 151/15 autocannons.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/2/2012 6:10:35 PM

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BOLO!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/2/2012 8:42:57 PM

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What is that thing? a co-axial 100mm machine gun!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/2/2012 8:56:47 PM

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What is that thing? a co-axial 100mm machine gun!

That is the last surviving M&M Enterprises "Ost-Maus". I think that is a low velocity 75 mm gun mounted in the turret so one doesnt waste a half ton of tungsten taking out a on old prospector's Jeep (or Ford)

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 4:39:14 AM

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You have too much time on your hands.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 11:26:05 AM

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Interesting observation on the Maus by Heinz Guderian in his book Panzer Leader:

"On May 1 [1943] a wooden model of the 'Maus', a tank project of Porsche and Krupp, was shown to Hitler. It was intended to mount a 150 mm gun. The total weight of the tank was supposed to reach 175 tons. It should be considered that after the design changes on Hitler's instructions the tank will weight 200 tons. The model didn't have a single machine gun for close combat, and for this reason I had to reject it. It had the same design flaw that made the Elefant unsuitable for close combat. In the end, the tank will inevitably have to wage a close combat sinec it operates in cooperation with the infantry. An intense debate started, and except for me, all of the present found the 'Maus' magnificent. It was promising to be exactly that, a 'giant'."

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 3:59:35 PM

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That was my experience with Guderian too...always the dreamer....at least in WWII(a). By WWII(c) he was 80% owner of a golf resort on Giglio. I think he was also the one who smuggled the OstMaus to Yamashita by submarine, but don't quote me on that.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 4:02:56 PM

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By WWII(c) he was 80% owner of a golf resort on Giglio.

Yes, I heard this too. Didn't Von Manstein and Rommel each own 60% of the same golf resort?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 4:27:24 PM

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By WWII(c) he was 80% owner of a golf resort on Giglio.

Yes, I heard this too. Didn't Von Manstein and Rommel each own 60% of the same golf resort?

Hope it wasn't in Libya.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 5:32:37 PM

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By WWII(c) he was 80% owner of a golf resort on Giglio.

Yes, I heard this too. Didn't Von Manstein and Rommel each own 60% of the same golf resort?

Yes, yes. Manstein was more of a passive investor by Rommel actually designed all the bunkers. On the South ("el Alemein") course, some of the bunkers actually had to be redesigned. The golfers complained about diffculty after several foursomes were taken out by teller mines.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 6:33:21 PM

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All the spots on the Come line are covered..with double odds...come on baby...you can do it....numbers...numbers......

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 6:35:24 PM

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..bounce...bounce...off the side..1st die is a 6...the second one is still spinning......spinning....the Allied side of the table is breathless.....

3 it's a 3..we live another day!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 6:36:09 PM

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Ground combat at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 45463 troops, 458 guns, 207 vehicles, Assault Value = 1214

Defending force 20892 troops, 563 guns, 401 vehicles, Assault Value = 466

Japanese adjusted assault: 909

Allied adjusted defense: 294

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3110 casualties reported
Squads: 51 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 25 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
778 casualties reported
Squads: 118 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 35 disabled
Guns lost 76 (12 destroyed, 64 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Infantry Regiment
77th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
66th Infantry Group
6th Guards Division
56th Recon Regiment
5th Division
56th Engineer Regiment
Yokosuka Assault SNLF /2
30th Fld AA Gun Co
16th Army
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
22nd Air Flotilla
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
51st JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
32nd Infantry Division
22nd (East African) Brigade
2nd British Division
7th RAN Base Force
34th Aviation Base Force
14th USN Naval Construction Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
10th USN Naval Construction Battalion
2nd Medium Regiment

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/3/2012 6:51:29 PM

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By WWII(c) he was 80% owner of a golf resort on Giglio.

Yes, I heard this too. Didn't Von Manstein and Rommel each own 60% of the same golf resort?

Yes, yes. Manstein was more of a passive investor by Rommel actually designed all the bunkers. On the South ("el Alemein") course, some of the bunkers actually had to be redesigned. The golfers complained about diffculty after several foursomes were taken out by teller mines.