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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 6:46:21 PM   
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The carrier planes from about 160 mi to the west. Yeah baby!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 57,129

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7



Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 34
SBD-3 Dauntless x 45
TBF-1 Avenger x 17


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 12, on fire
BB Hyuga, Torpedo hits 3
CL Isuzu, Bomb hits 1
CL Jintsu
CL Oi
DD Yugao


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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 6:48:03 PM   
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Nice raid over PH

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes


Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 3
Bolingbroke IV x 6
B-17E Fortress x 26
B-24D Liberator x 42
B-26B Marauder x 12


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
478 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 6:49:46 PM   
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B-17's over Broome. Recon was wrong. They have fighters up.

Morning Air attack on Broome , at 62,127

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21



Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 15
LB-30 Liberator x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 3 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 9

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 6:52:51 PM   
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More AK's about 80 WNW of PH. F4F's from the carriers try to help out. Evidently Broome is out of torps.



Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 9



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 30


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Selma City
xAKL Anakan, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 6:55:53 PM   
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Hyuga in for more punishment. Unescorted SBD's. LYB CAP over PH is now depleted.

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 21


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CL Oi, Bomb hits 1
CL Kiso


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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 6:59:05 PM   
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I may have misundersetimated the torpedo supply at Broome (or they might be coming from Timor). The P-38's are AWOL.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 57,128

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Elmdale
xAK Deslock, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Pardo, on fire, heavy damage


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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 7:01:45 PM   
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Carpender zigs when he should have zagged. F4F's from the carriers try to help out. Again the P-38's are AWOL.

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
B5N2 Kate x 24



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 37


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Valiant, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Decoy, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fortune

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 7:04:01 PM   
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ASW group that was leading some of the tranpsorts is hit by more carrier planes.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Hedland at 56,128

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N2 Kate x 20



Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AM Colac, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
KV Vancouver, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
KV Dawson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AM Deloraine, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 7:09:02 PM   
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I-155 is sunk by the carriers ASW group and I-165 is hurt badly. Then JJ attacks again at PH, again managing a 2:1 attack.

We lose more infantry squads but they have heavy disruption of their infantry as well.

Ground combat at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41699 troops, 447 guns, 206 vehicles, Assault Value = 1051

Defending force 19559 troops, 547 guns, 395 vehicles, Assault Value = 391

Japanese adjusted assault: 460

Allied adjusted defense: 218

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1727 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 146 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled


Allied ground losses:
649 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 32 (4 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 7:13:47 PM   
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Did you unload any supply with the few ships that got in?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 7:49:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have my doubts about how much supply got in. Certainly almost none from HMIS Cornwallis group.

But we do have more to the West perhaps one day out and 5 undamaged BB's will full ammo that can reach PH tonight. In addition, the Jap carriers will be low on torps and I think they will have suffered more fighter losses. We also have fresh SBD's and some fresh F4F's and Sea Hurricanes ashore.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 7:59:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hopefully we have more BBs than they have torps...

Lucky we ordered up those extra supply convoys. Or was that skill? let's put it down to skill.

Looks like we swapped Valiant for Hyuga and 1 very badly damged other BB.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 8:11:55 PM   
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Hopefully we have more BBs than they have torps...



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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 8:19:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sprior

Hopefully we have more BBs than they have torps...

Lucky we ordered up those extra supply convoys. Or was that skill? let's put it down to skill.

Looks like we swapped Valiant for Hyuga and 1 very badly damged other BB.


Yes, I think you are right +/- Hawkins.

Yamashiro has to be hurt pretty badly.

We lost 2 x DD, 2 x KV and 2 x AM, they lost Nagara and 1 DD and a sub with a few CA's damaged.

Yamato is still a threat.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 8:21:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

quote:

Hopefully we have more BBs than they have torps...





Well, technically, what we really need is about 1 BB for every 3 of their torps.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/14/2012 8:27:12 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 2:52:09 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		JJ have left a surface group or two at PH, though I am not sure of their ammo situation. Perhaps a fresh group snuck in after Valiant exited and manged to escape air attack. More likely these are survivors of the night fighting and air attacks.

JJ is definitely rearming at Broome (at least cruiser and DD's and perhaps even Yamato).

East African Brigade now has no infantry. It is quite desperate. Br. 2nd has a lot of fighting power left but is severly disrupted and fatigued.




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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 2:58:57 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Air losses for the day. JJ lost quite a few Zeroes although some of these may have been in Burma.

One Alf lost. This was probably on the CL that was sunk. Would Hyuga have aircraft? Mouseover on the carriers shows 70 fighters, 115 bombers. They may have back-filled from land bases.




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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:12:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like we send in the BB force (Adm Patterson, 5 x 21-22kt BB's with radar, Adelaide and 5 RN/USN DD's) tonight and clean up the vermin there while standing off the transports. Perhaps Adelaide or a DD could go in first to mop up the smaller vermin.

Several questions:

1) Do we set the BB's to bombard or surface combat?

2) Do we hold one or two back to bombard tomorrow night and cover the AK's?

3) Do we try to keep some surface force at PH with remain on station command?

4) How long can this go on? Should we send PoW and Washington from Sydney and Auckland?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:21:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Uggh. Carnarvon and Exmouth with severe storms. Geraldton with heavy rain. Meekathara seems to have good weather. Severe storms over Wyndham. Good flying weather over Broome.

Severe storms over PH. The weather might keep the fighters at PH grounded...or maybe not.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:29:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alleged Jap ship losses seem plausible. Yamashiro sustained 12 500-1000 lb bomb hits plus gunfire hits. This will not have been very salubrious.




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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:32:41 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:33:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Looks like we send in the BB force (Adm Patterson, 5 x 21-22kt BB's with radar, Adelaide and 5 RN/USN DD's) tonight and clean up the vermin there while standing off the transports. Perhaps Adelaide or a DD could go in first to mop up the smaller vermin.
IMO Adelaide plus a DD.

Several questions:

1) Do we set the BB's to bombard or surface combat?
'Bombard' will put them at a disadvantage in surface combat. IMO 'surface combat' will be best this time around.

2) Do we hold one or two back to bombard tomorrow night and cover the AK's?
IMO, send them all.

3) Do we try to keep some surface force at PH with remain on station command?
Pure guesswork. "115 bombers" seen on an ost-maus? Do they even need torpedoes to cause a very bad day?

4) How long can this go on? Should we send PoW and Washington from Sydney and Auckland?
If you are successful it will go on longer than you think. Send everything. If you do not plan for success then if you are about to be successful you might snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:35:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Uggh. Carnarvon and Exmouth with severe storms. Geraldton with heavy rain. Meekathara seems to have good weather. Severe storms over Wyndham. Good flying weather over Broome.

Severe storms over PH. The weather might keep the fighters at PH grounded...or maybe not.


That was the weather for the turn just passed - aka "today's" weather. The weather for the turn coming, the date shown in the top banner, is only a forecast and is shown via the "3" hot key or the "k" key.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:36:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Allied losses (+ 4 x PT). Canberra is not looking so good.





Phffft. It's a flesh wound.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:46:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Uggh. Carnarvon and Exmouth with severe storms. Geraldton with heavy rain. Meekathara seems to have good weather. Severe storms over Wyndham. Good flying weather over Broome.

Severe storms over PH. The weather might keep the fighters at PH grounded...or maybe not.


That was the weather for the turn just passed - aka "today's" weather. The weather for the turn coming, the date shown in the top banner, is only a forecast and is shown via the "3" hot key or the "k" key.


D'oh! Well, that explains why the P-38's and P-40K's were AWOL. Maybe I should have read the manual.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 3:55:24 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/15/2012 6:59:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		There´s a German phrase:
Außergewöhnliche Situationen erfordern außergewöhnliche Maßnahmen.
(extraordinary situations call for extraordinary actions)
Maybe its time to use an asymetric approach now.

Is it possible to evacuate some of your guys via sub?
You might bring in some supplies and evac your wounded on the way back.
You seem to have a lot of subs in the area, which might be more help supplying your troops than to ambush JJs ships.
Is it possible to mine some of his ports, especially Broome? This might make JJ think twice about supplying his precious BBs there. Even some 20 mines could be enough to sink or damage one ship. This might even work as a kind of very little protection against the bombardment of your troops by BBs.

Do you have Catalinas with high experience? It was possible to use them on naval attack in the night. They were quite effective that way. This might force JJ to keep the carriers out of the attack range of the cats. This only worked in cooperation with subs sighting enemy ships in the nightphase.



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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 12:39:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		We already have fragments of 2 Br Div, 22nd EAB and 32 ID at other locales in western Oz so if we lost the units in PH it wouldn't be the end of the world. However if we can ram some supplies into PH we tie down JJs units there. Then the capital ships go like buugery widdershins about Oz, pick up the ground units at Sydney and then do Darwin.

At least that's my idea, saner heads may prevail.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 2/16/2012 1:56:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Maybe I should have read the manual.



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