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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 6/3/2011 7:33:37 PM   
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While none of these may be accurate they are enjoyable to watch which is what a movie is for... It is nice if it's historically accurate but it's ok to me if it portrays the conflict in general rather then specifics.  Memphis Belle is like that for me.  It doesn't portray what happened to it's namesake but it nods to what the folks went through without being WAY off the path (PH for instance).


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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 6/9/2011 5:16:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I find it interesting that we are all tending to post the same films as ones to watch!

I'll just post my opinion on ones to watch, rather than saying whether they are historically correct etc:-

Ice Cold In Alex (1958) - it's been my favourite movie of all time for a long time!

The Thin Red Line - the atmosphere in this is just amazing - a WW2 story from a different perspective.

Conspiracy

Das Boot

Stalingrad (made by same people as Das Boot I believe)

Letters from Iwo Jima

Saving Private Ryan

Band Of Brothers

The Pacific

Battle of Britain

Enemy At The Gates

Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence

The Great Escape

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 6/10/2011 12:35:25 AM   
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I find it interesting that we are all tending to post the same films as ones to watch!


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That's because a good film is a good film in any language! Pleased to see you have Conspiracy on your list. An absolutely fantastic piece of drama.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/6/2012 10:43:59 AM   
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There is only one Number One for me "Das Boat".


Das Boot really is great.I love it! The soundtrack comes to my mind immediately as i think of it, lol!

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/6/2012 4:58:54 PM   
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1. Tora Tora Tora - quasi-documentary - great to see both sides of the story
2. Retreat from Kiska - deals with the Japanese Navy trying to rescue the soldiers from Kiska. The Japanese were able to take off the entire garrison of 5,183 officer's and men plus the remains of 115.
3.Fires on the Plain - Japanese soldiers retreating in the Phillipines in '45.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/6/2012 7:49:39 PM   
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Band of Brothers is not technically a movie, it is however the greatest piece of television ever made. imho..;D

Downfall is great, scary, but great (and also the most overdone meme of all time).

There some bw wwii film with David Niven which ends in N.Africa that I always enjoyed...anyone know the name?



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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/6/2012 11:33:42 PM   
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There some bw wwii film with David Niven which ends in N.Africa that I always enjoyed...anyone know the name?



Maybe this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_of_Enemies

I love "Land and Freedom" (Tierra y Libertad) by Ken Loach, about the story of the POUM (partido obrero de unidad marxista) during the Spanish Civil War.

There are many italian movies about war, maybe the more truthful (not realistic) is "La notte di San Lorenzo" with the conflict of italian partisans and italian black shirts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT_9db9IMzk

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/7/2012 8:24:47 AM   
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Kukurushka, a low budget production (i think finnish) about a finnish sniper pressed into german service, who is in a complex situation with a russian officer and a lappish woman, each speaking a different language.

By the way from my point of view I like the "fact moments" in Pearl Harbor, of course the plot is ridicoulos, but the Scense with the Japanese planning the attack etc. are very accurate i think.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/7/2012 3:25:56 PM   
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There some bw wwii film with David Niven which ends in N.Africa that I always enjoyed...anyone know the name?



Maybe this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_of_Enemies



Turns out it was 'The Way Ahead', which is pretty much a propaganda film but I still rather enjoyed it.

And a great quote from Niven on his wartime experiences
"I will, however, tell you just one thing about the war, my first story and my last. I was asked by some American friends to search out the grave of their son near Bastogne. I found it where they told me I would, but it was among 27,000 others, and I told myself that here, Niven, were 27,000 reasons why you should keep your mouth shut after the war."

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/7/2012 8:59:08 PM   
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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/7/2012 9:05:44 PM   
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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/8/2012 1:10:45 AM   
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The Russians produced a large number of movies never seen here for the most part. I have viewed some and they're quite good.

Welcome to the forum.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/8/2012 4:18:39 AM   
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It won 2 Oscars in 1950 & was nominated for 4 more including Best Picture.
I never see it mentioned in any thread like this but it is well worth watching.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041163/

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/8/2012 2:17:12 PM   
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The Beast of War
Tobruk
Waterloo
Spartacus
The Counterfeit Traitor
Von Ryans Express
The Long Ships


It's quite out of the WWII era for some In that case, I shall add some that are not about WW2 :
- Blue Max (fiction on a german pilot in WW1)
- Alexander Nevsky (soviet propaganda film 1938 in B&W, but I like it it's epic nevertheless)
- War and Peace (the one made in the 60's, the film with the best napoleonic era's battle scenes, showing the Battle of Borodino)
- Iron Cross (fiction on a decorated, desillusioned german soldier on the eastern front, WW2)

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/8/2012 2:17:44 PM   
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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/9/2012 12:51:10 AM   
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- Blue Max (fiction on a german pilot in WW1)



Starring George Peppard, also colonel John "Hannibal" Smith in A-Team tv series and starring in Blake Edward's masterpiece Breakfast at Tiffany's.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/9/2012 3:59:02 PM   
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- Blue Max (fiction on a german pilot in WW1)



Starring George Peppard, also colonel John "Hannibal" Smith in A-Team tv series and starring in Blake Edward's masterpiece Breakfast at Tiffany's.


And starring Ursula Andress wow!!!!

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/10/2012 4:16:03 AM   
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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/13/2012 12:04:21 AM   
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Das Boot

Letters from Iwo Jima


Band Of Brothers

The Pacific

I like them In this order. Tough list to beat!

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/13/2012 12:34:40 PM   
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Personally, I think that Stalingrad is the best movie about WW II on land. However, I am a little biased by this, because my greatuncle from Austria did fight at Stalingrad and there are some parts of his war diaries that were used in the movie (especially the scene early in the movie when they are on the train in Russia on the way to the front is taken largely from his diary).
He was one of the lucky ones: he was wounded (granatesplitter in his back and lost the use of his right arm) and was able to get out of the encirclement by walking to the airfield and catch a plane. He was in the elite "Sturmpioniere" battaljons who the German command send in to take the famous Tractor Works from the Russians. Of his battaljon (all coming from the same Austrian village) only a few came back out of Russia.
I've read his diaries on the war after he died (he did only give copies to the producers of the movie, we found out after his death that he did so and that that scene was taken from his diary). He never ever spoke of the Stalingrad period to his relatives, not even to his wife... The movie Stalingrad is good and looks very cruel at some places. However: it doesn't even come close to all the violence and strange things I've read in that diary...



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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/13/2012 1:10:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Centuur's last comment about his Great uncle immediately brought back memories of a book I read whilst still a teenager (likely 30 plus years ago) . The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer. That book is an incredible true story from a soldier fighting for the Germans on the Eastern Front. Well worth a read if you can get hold of a copy.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/13/2012 2:13:29 PM   
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There is one from a soldier in the 10th or 12th SS division ... 'The Black March'. A little chilling at times.

I like personal memoirs from soldiers. I don't think very many are translated....so in another country, you would only see the better ones.

In the USA, I have read a couple boring ones from American soldiers. One was from a guy in the Signal Corps......he is thus always behind the lines, and nothing all that interesting ever happened to him. So I doubt anyone in another country will ever read that one.


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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 3/13/2012 6:06:10 PM   
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Forgotten Soldier is good...I think that is the soldier from Alsace or Lorraine? And I think he is in the GrossDeutschland division?



That is correct, french from his father and german from his mother.

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/12/2012 8:41:57 AM   
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My favorite was always Patton, but for authintic equipment and fun (but nothing else authentic) you can't beat Kelly's Heroes

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/12/2012 4:14:54 PM   
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See how many things that are in this movie that they used in "The Great Escape (1963)".



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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/12/2012 4:26:09 PM   
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Most of the good ones have been mentioned.
My favorite was always Patton, but for authintic equipment and fun (but nothing else authentic) you can't beat Kelly's Heroes



I too was curious about all those Shermans etc. This is what I found:

"...Yugoslavia was chosen mostly because earnings from previous showings of movies there could not be taken out of the country, but could be used to fund the production.

Also the Yugoslav army had in its inventory U.S. Sherman tanks (part of the military aid packages received when Marshal Tito split ways with Joseph Stalin and the U.S. feared a Red Army intervention through Hungary)..."


The Tiger tanks were apparently T-34's already modified for a Soviet film shot a year before.


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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/16/2012 5:12:08 PM   
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The Longest Day the best
To Hell and Back
Midway (minus the father son story)
Patton (accurate story, not so accurate tanks)

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/22/2012 11:07:44 PM   
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I see some people mentioned Pearl Harbor on the worst list. I thought the question was about war films?

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RE: OT - Best WWII movie? - 4/22/2012 11:16:27 PM   
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I see some people mentioned Pearl Harbor on the worst list. I thought the question was about war films?
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borner, if you mention that film by name again I will report you to Erik okay? It is The Film That Shall Not Be Named or TFTSNBN .

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