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Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 7:54:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have made a modification of the Campaign, to be played as axis against the AI; starting february 1, 1940 (with the Poland invasion and the Finnland-URSS winter war finished).

I have changed the Germany, Norway and danish events to make a different Norway campaign. I have made Trondheim invasion hex, and also increased the mobility of german units (thats a personal preference, no essential for the scenario).

The main features are:

1. Scandinavia attack and surrender events deleted. You must declare war as usual to attack Norway and Denmark.

2. Scripted allied invasion and control of neutral Norway, cutting sweddish iron to germans. Probability 5% every february turn, 15% in march and 50% in april and may.

3. Scripted allied reaction to axis attack to Norway. Any non garrisonned norwegian coastal city will be occupied by allies. Also allied landings and Norway's army opposition.

4. Control by the allies of any norwegian coastal city decreases the gains from controling Narvik by the axis.

The main impact in gameplay is that you as axis must execute amphibious and air landings to take full control of Norway before it is too late, and that while building up for the attack in the west.

download Norway 41 scenario

Installation: place the downloaded "norway 41" scenario folder into your "\data\scenarios" folder.

Below is a short A.A.R.
Sorry for my poor english.
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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 7:58:51 PM   
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most key cities are taken by landings.
Alesund group is destroyed by the Royal Navy.





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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:03:06 PM   
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Allied reaction: British and french
landings, norweggian army units under allied control.





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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:04:38 PM   
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but the main objetive is the exposed city of Narvik.





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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:06:53 PM   
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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:11:04 PM   
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Some air units and the best commanders have been
sent back to Germany for the offensive against France.




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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:12:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Narvik is hanging by a thread .
Land support can take weeks to arrive and the Royal Navy
deters ship transport, so the Luftwaffe seems the only hope.




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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:13:54 PM   
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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:15:35 PM   
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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/21/2012 8:17:50 PM   
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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/22/2012 3:49:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is pretty close to the Fall Gelb scenario.

Most of our Beta was like this in the Grand Campaign where you have to fight for Denmark and Norway.

It was recently changed to simplify it.

I liked it the old way as you had to allocate your resources and divert troops to conquer these countries.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/23/2012 8:31:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great work, Peter123. I wish someone, or you, would incorporate that mod into the Grand Campaign.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/24/2012 1:26:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can do that as it was originally in the game before it was released.

This will solve the extra PP problem people complain about as you have to pay for amphibious units and extra troops.

You also have to divert your forces to accomplish this. You can easily spend 168PP in preparations. Then there is the cost of fighting and the diversion of other troops from France to the front.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/24/2012 2:12:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		We're talking about two different things, Razz. This scenario that Peter123 has done requires his events, and perhaps more. I don't recall any such set of events ever being part of ToF.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/24/2012 11:09:38 AM   
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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/24/2012 11:52:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gwgardner

Great work, Peter123. I wish someone, or you, would incorporate that mod into the Grand Campaign.

Thanks Gw,this is the Grand Campaign version of the Norway scenario: download Grand Campaign 1939- Norway scenario; of course it is not a substitute for the original 1939 Grand Campaign because it is only playable as axis against the A.I.(to make a scenario playable either side is well beyond my skill). I have not tested this version, but I think it should work fine.
The biggest problem I see is the need of 7 expensive amphibious points for the Germans. Unfortunately there is not an event to give amphibious points, so I must give 400 production points in January 1940 to purchase them.
The side effect is that you can invest those P.P. into something (a lot) else, although I dont think it worth losing Norway. In any case, if you dont like to cheat the AI, just returns the points in case of not attacking Norway.
To assign 7 amphibious points to Germany from the start is another possibility with its own side effects.
Please let me know if you think a better solution.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/24/2012 7:06:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gwgardner

We're talking about two different things, Razz. This scenario that Peter123 has done requires his events, and perhaps more. I don't recall any such set of events ever being part of ToF.


Believe me... We had it. It might have been under the Fall Gelb scenario back in the TOW 2 days, but we had it. In fact, I'm surprised it's not in the Fall Gelb scenario.

If you are correct, then I had that modified two years ago. When my PC crashed I lost some data, plus also deleted allot of games where all that data was incorporated.

By the way... you don't need that may amphibious units to take Norway. In fact you don't need to add any extra PP's with Germany in order to capture Norway.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/25/2012 10:39:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Razz

Believe me... We had it. It might have been under the Fall Gelb scenario back in the TOW 2 days, but we had it. In fact, I'm surprised it's not in the Fall Gelb scenario.



You must be talking about something else, because my events or anything like them cant have any pourpose in the Fall Gelb scenario. A set of events about a preventive allied invasión of Norway or an instant automatic allied reaction to a german invasion of Norway havent any sense in a scenario that starts with Norway already invaded by the germans.

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ORIGINAL: Razz

By the way... you don't need that may amphibious units to take Norway. In fact you don't need to add any extra PP's with Germany in order to capture Norway.



Again you are talking about a different thing because in my scenario you need those points to capture Norway and yon must get them for free.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/25/2012 11:12:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Peter123

Thanks Gw,this is the Grand Campaign version of the Norway scenario: download Grand Campaign 1939- Norway scenario;


Thanks!

Could provide the ATPs at the beginning of the scenario, but then remove them by event after May or June of '40. Use them or lose them. The German player would have to know this up front, so he wouldn't purchase any more for Sea Lion till after the removal of the original 7.


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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/25/2012 5:04:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		You are correct for your scenario. I was wondering if you were going to read that and catch it.


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ORIGINAL: Peter123


quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

Believe me... We had it. It might have been under the Fall Gelb scenario back in the TOW 2 days, but we had it. In fact, I'm surprised it's not in the Fall Gelb scenario.



You must be talking about something else, because my events or anything like them cant have any pourpose in the Fall Gelb scenario. A set of events about a preventive allied invasión of Norway or an instant automatic allied reaction to a german invasion of Norway havent any sense in a scenario that starts with Norway already invaded by the germans.

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ORIGINAL: Razz

By the way... you don't need that may amphibious units to take Norway. In fact you don't need to add any extra PP's with Germany in order to capture Norway.



Again you are talking about a different thing because in my scenario you need those points to capture Norway and yon must get them for free.



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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/25/2012 5:59:50 PM   
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there is such event
Try this:


METHOD:
Country.ChangeAIP (int countryID, int value )

DESCRIPTION:
Changes AIP value by given amount.


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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/26/2012 10:27:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: doomtrader

@Peter123,

there is such event
Try this:


METHOD:
Country.ChangeAIP (int countryID, int value )

DESCRIPTION:
Changes AIP value by given amount.




Thanks, Thats what I was looking for.


Does this one work properly?:

METHOD:
Hex.AddLandUnitAndPassControlOverHexIfEmpty (int hexX, int hexY, int countryID, int unitType, int unitLevel, int unitStrength, name)

DESCRIPTION:
Adds a land unit to pointed hex for given country with given type, level, strength and name.
If at hex already other unit is presented, nothing happens
If hex is controlled by other country then a control over hex goes to countryID

No unit is added in any case.

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ORIGINAL: gwgardner

Could provide the ATPs at the beginning of the scenario, but then remove them by event after May or June of '40. Use them or lose them. The German player would have to know this up front, so he wouldn't purchase any more for Sea Lion till after the removal of the original 7.



In this version you will get 7 amphibious points February 1st and will go back to 0 points around May 15 if not used.


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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/27/2012 12:09:03 AM   
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Show me the whole event

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/27/2012 12:51:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have seen that the event directory in the game contents a complete engine event manual for the game, it looks very interessant. Please, what xml editor do you use ? I use ordinary "Bonfire studio" for my own use, a free xml editor that works fine, but have you one other and better (free) ?

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/27/2012 1:26:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: doomtrader

Peter123

Show me the whole event

This event adds a british division south of Rostok (but does not change the control of the hex):

<!-- Event name -->
<event eventID="555" countryID="2" visibleByPlayer="0" oneTimeChecking="1">

<options>
<option optionID="1" chanceAI="100" >
<effects>
<!-- allied landings -->
<effect method="Hex.AddLandUnit" param0="124" param1="74" param2="9" param3="0" param4="2" param5="100" paramString0="unit name"/>
</effects>

</option>
</options>
</event>



this one does nothing:

<!-- Event name -->
<event eventID="555" countryID="2" visibleByPlayer="0" oneTimeChecking="1">

<options>
<option optionID="1" chanceAI="100" >
<effects>
<!-- allied landings -->
<effect method="Hex.AddLandUnitAndPassControlOverHexIfEmpty" param0="124" param1="74" param2="9" param3="0" param4="2" param5="100" paramString0="unit name"/>
</effects>

</option>
</options>
</event>



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ORIGINAL: welk

I have seen that the event directory in the game contents a complete engine event manual for the game, it looks very interessant. Please, what xml editor do you use ? I use ordinary "Bonfire studio" for my own use, a free xml editor that works fine, but have you one other and better (free) ?



Just wordpad and a lot of cut and paste.

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RE: Norway 1940 scenario - 3/27/2012 8:38:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, thanks for info about logicial. "Bonfire studo" is (may be) better than note pad, I want to say : more comfortable in use. It's a free logiciel that you may download on Internet, I used it when I modded Field Of Glory and it works very fine, with detailled arbor. and colors.

sample of donwload link for Bonfire studio
http://download.cnet.com/Bonfire-Studio/3000-7241_4-10070820.html

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