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Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/25/2012 8:03:00 PM   
JSBoomer


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Status: offline 		Does anyone know if the Hungarians get RE 2000 Heja (Falco I) or HE 112s?, I have never had the patience to get far enough into the game to find out. Or are the aircraft listed all you get?

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RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/25/2012 10:03:14 PM   
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  • Ar-79B Arado Courier 16 1944-45
    Ar-96A Arado Advanced Trainer 65 1939-45
    Ar-96B Arado Gunnery Trainer 45 1942-45
    B-534 Avia Fighter 3 1939-44
    Bf-108B Messerschmitt Courier / Spotter 7 1937-45
    Bf-109D-1 Messerschmitt Fighter 2 1941-42
    Bf-109E-4 Messerschmitt Fighter 50 1944.45
    Bf-109G-2 /4 Messerschmitt Fighter 84 1943-44
    Bf-109G-2 /4 /6 [5] MGW Fighter 150 1943-44
    Bf-109G-8 Messerschmitt Fighter / Short Range Recon 12 1944-45
    Bf-109G-10 /14 [5] MGW Fighter 238 1944.45
    Bf-110E-4 /G-2 Messerschmitt Twin-engine Fighter 6 1944.45
    Bf-110G-4 Messerschmitt Twin-engine Night Fighter 12 1944-45
    Bf-197F-4B Messerschmitt Fighter-Bomber 66 1942-43
    Blenheim I Bristol Observation 1 1941-44
    Breda 25 Breda Primary Trainer 3 1939-42
    Breguet XIX Breguet Observation 1 1941-44
    Bü-131D-2 Bücker Primary Trainer / Courier 150 1939-45
    Bü-81 Bücker Primary Trainer / Courier 23 1942-45
    C-600 Aiglon Caudron Courier 6 1943-45
    C-630 Simoun Caudron Courier 6 1943-45
    Ca.101/3m Caproni Bomber 15 1931-44
    Ca.135bis Caproni Heavy Bomber 68 1940-44
    Cimbora Rubik Glider Pilot Trainer 10 1942-44
    Cr.32 /32bis Fiat Fighter 76 1936-42
    Cr.32ter /32quater Fiat Fighter 36 1936-44
    Cr.42 Fiat Fighter 72 1939-45
    Cr.42bis Fiat Light Attack 12 1944-45
    DFS - Kranich DFS [2] Glider Trainer 3 1943-45
    DFS 230 DFS [2] Glider Trainer 3 1944-45
    Do-17Ka-3 Dorner Long Range Recon 1 1941-44
    Do-215B-4 Dornier Long Range Recon 10 1942-44
    Do-23 Dornier Bomber Trainer 3 1937-44
    E-39 Praga Courier 12 1939-44
    EM-29 EMESE Courier 25 1942-45
    Fi-156C /D Fiesler Courier 36 1942-45
    FN 305 & 315 Nardi Advanced Trainer 52 1941-44
    Fw 58K-7 /8 Focke-Wulf Trainer 84 1937-45
    Fw-189 Focke-Wulf Mapping 1 1944-45
    Fw-189A-1 /2 Focke-Wulf Short Range Recon 20 1943-44
    Fw-190F-8 Focke-Wulf Fighter-Bomber 72 1944.45
    Fw-56 Focke-Wulf Fighter Trainer 32 1937-44
    Fw-58C Focke-Wulf Courier 1 1937-45
    Fw-58C /B-2 Focke-Wulf Night Attack 17 1944-45
    Fw-58E-1 Focke-Wulf Weather 2 1939-45
    Fw-58K-1 /2 Focke-Wulf Transport 3 1943-45
    G.12 Fiat Transport 18 1942-45
    Gerle Bánhidi Tourer / Courier 1 1940-41
    Gipsy Moth De Haviland Courier 1 1939-42
    Go-242 Gothaer Waggonfabrik Transport Glider Trainer 15 1944-45
    He-111H-2 Heinkel Courier 1 1944
    He-111H-6 Heinkel Night Bomber 12 1944-45
    He-111P-2 /P-4 Heinkel Long Range Recon 7 1940-43
    He-112B-0 Heinkel Fighter 3 1939-44
    He-45C Heinkel Observation Trainer 6 1937-44
    He-46E-2 Heinkel Observation / Short Range Recon 36 1937-44
    He-46E-2 Un Heinkel Night Harassing 12 1943-45
    He-70K / He-170 Heinkel Long Range Recon 18 1937-42
    Honvéd Fábián Twin-eingined Trainer 4 1942-45
    Hs-129B Heinschel Ground Attack 4 1943
    HS-9 Hirtenberg Tourer / Trainer 1 1939-45
    IAR 37 IAR Short Range Recon 1 1940-41
    Il-2 Ilushin Ground Attack 1 1942-44
    Ju.86K Junkers Bomber Trainer 3 1937-45
    Ju-52/3m Junkers Tranport 23 1943-45
    Ju-52/3mg 3-9 Junkers Transport 7 1941-45
    Ju-86Ga-1 Junkers Courier 2 1943-45
    Ju-86-K Junkers Long Range Recon 2 1939-44
    Ju-86K-2 Junkers Bomber 63 1937-45
    Ju-87A Junkers Dive Bomber 4 1941-44
    Ju-87B-2 Junkers Dive Bomber 10 1941-43
    Ju-87D-1 /D-3 Junkers Dive Bomber 30 1943-44
    Ju-87D-5 Junkers Dive Bomber 20 1944-45
    Ju-88A-14/C-6 Junkers Bomber / Heavy Fighter 32 1944-45
    Ju-88A-4 /A-5 Junkers Bomber 51 1943-45
    Ju-88D-1 /3 /5 Junkers Long Range Recon 28 1942-44
    Káplár Varga Primary Trainer 5 1941-45
    Kevély Rubik Glider Trainer 5 1942-44
    Levente I Fábián Primary Trainer 2 1941-45
    Levente II Fábián Primary Trainer / Courier 80 1942-45
    M-22 Müegyetem Glider Pilot Trainer 2 1942-44
    M-24 Müegyetemi Courier 4 1940-42
    Me-210 / Da Messerschmitt Observation / Short Range Recon 6 1943-45
    Me-210Ca-1 [6] Messerschmitt Twin-engine Fighter 176 1944.45
    Móka Rubik Glider Pilot Trainer 2 1944-45
    NA-16 Harvard [1] North American Fighter Trainer 3 1943-45
    P.11a P.Z.L. Fighter 1 1939-44
    Pilis Rubik Glider Trainer 5 1942-44
    Potez 25 Potez Observation 1 1941-44
    Potez 63.11 Potez Destroyer Trainer 40 1944-45
    Re.2000 Falco Reggiane Fighter 70 1941-43
    Re.2000 Héja MŔVAG Fighter 196 1942-44
    Re.2000 Héja MŔVAG Dive Bomber 2 1943-45
    Ro.37 / 37bis Romeo Observation / Short Range Recon 14 1939-41
    Ro.41 /41B Romeo Fighter Trainer 8 1939-44
    RWD 8 Poland Primary Trainer and Tourer 2 1940-45
    Si-204D Siebel Courier 5 1944-45
    SM.75 Savoia-Marchetti Transport 5 1938-45
    SM.79 Savoia-Marchetti Heavy Bomber 1 1941.42
    Tücsök Rubik Glider Trainer 5 1942-44
    UT-2 Yakovlev Courier 1 1942-44
    Vöcsök Rubik Glider Trainer 5 1942-44
    WM-10/13 Weiss Manfred Primary Trainer 9 1933-44
    WM-21A & B Sólyom Weiss Manfred Observation / Short Range Recon 128 1938-41
    WM-16 Budapest Weiss Manfred Light Bomber 9 1933-42
    WM-Fokker C.Vd Weiss Manfred Observation 50 1928-42
    Yak-4 Yakovlev Fighter 1 1942-43

    This list is why I ask.

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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/26/2012 1:35:29 AM   
    Bronze

     

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    Status: offline     		Bf-197F-4B? Anyone have a picture or link about this aircraft? I have never heard of it.

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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/26/2012 6:56:28 AM   
    Omat


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    I think a typographical error. List of RLM aircraft designations shows that the Number 197 was used by Arado for the Ar 197 a Naval fighter. Maybe Bf 109F-4B was meant.

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    Bf-197F-4B? Anyone have a picture or link about this aircraft? I have never heard of it.



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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/26/2012 11:02:33 AM   
    Naughteous Maximus


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    Status: offline     		Yes, I do remember playing the '41-'45 campaign and seeing the Hungarians receive from Italy a large amount of RE 2000 Heja aircraft (200). I believe it happens before autumn in '41.

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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/26/2012 12:33:08 PM   
    Denniss

     

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    Status: offline     		A Bf 109 F-4/B did not exist - all Bf 109 since the E-7 were capable of holding bombs or a drop tank. The /B was only used for pre E-7 aircraft modified to act as fighter-bomber (E-1/B, E-3/B, E-4/B, E-4/BN).

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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/26/2012 1:04:18 PM   
    Omat


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    I think you completly missed the point. And also your statement is not very helpful.

    A Bf-197 does not exit and also not Bf-197F-4B. But something was meant....when you read the list you did not see the Bf 109F-4 which where used by RHAF's 1./1. vadászszázad. Some sources using Bf 109F-4B. If this is corrected or not does not matter because it is clear what was meant....the author made a miske ..typo and used designation which was not official. But the hungarians used the 109f.

    So please don't split hairs. And help a litle more to find out was meant...


    Omat



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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/26/2012 11:53:33 PM   
    JSBoomer


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    Status: offline     		Thanks NM, that was the answer I was looking for. As for the list, well I cut and pasted it and I must assume that it has a typo or some other mistake. I was really interested in the Falcos and the HE 112. Thanks everyone for your input! THis is why I love these forums.

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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/27/2012 12:25:46 AM   
    Denniss

     

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    Status: offline     		AFAIR they called the Reggiane-built Re.2000 Heja and the MAVAG-built Re.2000 Heja II.

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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/27/2012 12:33:17 AM   
    JSBoomer


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    Status: offline     		Denniss, is the Hungarian Heja II production in the game?

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    RE: Royal Hungarian Airforce TOE - 3/27/2012 1:58:58 PM   
    Denniss

     

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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: J Boomer

    Denniss, is the Hungarian Heja II production in the game?

    Currently only as import from italian Re.2000 pool

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