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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 12:15:43 PM   
HansBolter


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Status: offline 		Castor, I don't want to come across as critical and belittling as it seems the others who recently asked if you are intending to put up a fight seemed to do, but I was wondering why you allowed him to take so many of those useless dot hexes without putting up at least some kind of resistance that would have attrited his forces.

I kow the dot hexes are mostly worthless and the point isn't to prevent him from taking them so much as using the oppurtunities to attrite his forces. It seems most of them were surely taken out of range of IJ LBA and without carrier cover so a few judiciously placed SAGs could have done some real damage, although I recognize that it would also have attrited your surface combat force as well.

I have been hoping that you were simply conserving your force and marshalling it for a counterstrike that I'm awaiting with great anticipation.

Looking forward to seeing how you put up a fight in Australia so I can learn from it.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 12:24:37 PM   
castor troy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Castor, I don't want to come across as critical and belittling as it seems the others who recently asked if you are intending to put up a fight seemed to do, but I was wondering why you allowed him to take so many of those useless dot hexes without putting up at least some kind of resistance that would have attrited his forces.

I kow the dot hexes are mostly worthless and the point isn't to prevent him from taking them so much as using the oppurtunities to attrite his forces. It seems most of them were surely taken out of range of IJ LBA and without carrier cover so a few judiciously placed SAGs could have done some real damage, although I recognize that it would also have attrited your surface combat force as well.

I have been hoping that you were simply conserving your force and marshalling it for a counterstrike that I'm awaiting with great anticipation.

Looking forward to seeing how you put up a fight in Australia so I can learn from it.



because all it takes to take all those dot bases in SOPAC are three SNLF or navguard units and halve a dozen xAK and even if I would have sunk those it would not attrit the enemy at all. The fact that he took all those dot bases means pretty much nothing and if you wonder where my carriers are, they have been brought into position where I wanted them to be and that took some time, so hunting a couple of xAK through SOPAC would have been a waste.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 12:32:20 PM   
castor troy


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ASW attack near Carnarvon at 47,135

Japanese Ships
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
SS O24



SS O24 is sighted by escort
O24 diving deep ....
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arashio is out of ASW ammo
DD Arashio is out of ASW ammo
DD Arashio is out of ASW ammo
DD Arashio is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

we do have a couple of subs in the Perth area but not enough to be a real threat, perhaps we land a lucky hit on an important target at some point...

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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
APD Shimakaze
PB Nichi Maru #1
DMS W-13
AV Sanuki Maru
APD Nadakaze
xAK Unkai Maru #6
xAK Satsuma Maru
xAK Hokusei Maru
xAKL Hokuzan Maru
xAKL Anbo Maru
xAKL Oridono Maru
DD Shikinami
TB Tomozuru
TB Hatsukari
TB Manazuru

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 3



SS KXII launches 4 torpedoes at APD Shimakaze
KXII bottoming out ....
DD Shikinami fails to find sub and abandons search
TB Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Hatsukari fails to find sub and abandons search
TB Manazuru fails to find sub and abandons search
TB Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
TB Tomozuru attacking submerged sub ....
TB Tomozuru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Bundaberg (96,155)

TF 76 troops unloading over beach at Bundaberg, 96,155

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 83rd Nav Gd
12 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 83rd Nav Gd
12 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 8th Base Force
12 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 8th Base Force
12 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 8th Base Force /2
10 troops of a SNLF HMG Section lost in surf during unload of 84th Nav Gd
12 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 8th Base Force /3

Nav Gd landing further North of the main invasion on Aussie East Coast...

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 29
Ki-30 Ann x 29
Ki-36 Ida x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 37
Ki-51 Sonia x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
14 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 69
Ki-30 Ann x 16



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 103 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 24
Ki-30 Ann x 25



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 5th Division, at 49,141 (Geraldton)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 17


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

only two Hudson I squadrons at Perth at the moment to bomb the enemy that came ashore but I will fly in some B-17 to have some more punch...

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Amphibious Assault at Reao (189,186)

TF 124 troops unloading over beach at Reao, 189,186





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Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35378 troops, 325 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 1048

Defending force 13494 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 377

Japanese adjusted assault: 502

Allied adjusted defense: 1231

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
733 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 129 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled


Allied ground losses:
391 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

we hold another time but in the long run we won't have a chance...

Assaulting units:
15th Division
22nd Division
36th Division

Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
25th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6318 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 218

Defending force 2217 troops, 45 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Japanese adjusted assault: 108

Allied adjusted defense: 61

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Assaulting units:
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Coastal Gun Battalion
Tarakan Base Force


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Ground combat at Aoba Island (121,150)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 320 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aoba Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-), supply(-)



Assaulting units:
5th Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 997 troops, 28 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Defending force 6211 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 207



Assaulting units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Coastal Gun Battalion
Tarakan Base Force

Defending units:
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment


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Ground combat at Maryborough (96,157)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20178 troops, 170 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 726

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 419

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 419 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Maryborough !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
4th Div /4
4th/C Division
38th/C Division
38th/A Division
4th/A Div /1

the two divs aren't in full strenght here, this could turn out to be problematic for the enemy...
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Ground combat at Geraldton (49,141)

Japanese Shock attack


Attacking force 1522 troops, 24 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 64

Defending force 1209 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese adjusted assault: 19

Allied adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

lol, our Fortress and the low value base force holds... looks like the ground attacks of the Hudson I squadron had some effect... we need the B-17 now and if the enemy doesn't land the rest of his invasion armada (don't know why he doesn't) then we should be able to knock out that part of 5th Div...


Assaulting units:
5th Div /6

Defending units:
Geraldton Fortress
6th RAAF Base Force


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Ground combat at Reao (189,186)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 722 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 17

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Reao !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF /3




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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 12:39:58 PM   
castor troy


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From: Austria
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Amphibious Assault at Pantar (69,114)

TF 227 troops unloading over beach at Pantar, 69,114





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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 69
Ki-30 Ann x 5



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 11



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 97 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 24
Ki-30 Ann x 25



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 4 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 49,141 (Geraldton)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 11
B-17E Fortress x 22


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
204 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

we now have B-17 support... four or five such airstrikes and the enemy troops here should be rendered useless...

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Brisbane at 96,160

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
D3A1 Val x 7



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 59


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

had some low value ships at Brisbane and they were target of an enemy airstrike coming from the carriers now sitting in Maryborough's base hex... four of my P-40 squadrons were at Brisbane too as I expected an airstrike against the base and the fighters tangle with the enemy strike for some good effect... mind you, these are KB's elite pilots so achieving a better than 1:1 kill rate is a success for me as his pilots can never be replaced and we down quite a couple of them today...

CAP engaged:
3rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (8 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
17th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (6 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
20th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (5 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
33rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Brisbane at 96,160

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
D3A1 Val x 4



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 53


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

we suffer a lot of damaged fighters and a lot of them are write offs but overall result today is near a 2:1 A2A vs the Zeroes plus we have downed a dozen Vals...

CAP engaged:
3rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (8 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
17th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
20th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
33rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers



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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6270 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 214

Defending force 2071 troops, 44 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Japanese adjusted assault: 40

Allied adjusted defense: 37

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
146 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Assaulting units:
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Coastal Gun Battalion
Tarakan Base Force


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Ground combat at Bundaberg (96,155)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2943 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 136

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 36

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 36 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bundaberg !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
83rd Naval Guard Unit
84th Naval Guard Unit
8th Base Force


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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 893 troops, 27 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Defending force 6207 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 207



Assaulting units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Coastal Gun Battalion
Tarakan Base Force

Defending units:
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment







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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 12:42:29 PM   
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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 12:59:02 PM   
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Pre-Invasion action off Bandjermasin (60,99)

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Toyama Maru
xAK Syoan Maru



xAK Toyama Maru firing at Bandjermasin Base Force
xAK Toyama Maru fired at enemy troops
xAK Syoan Maru fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Bandjermasin (60,99)

TF 13 troops unloading over beach at Bandjermasin, 60,99





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Amphibious Assault at Sibuyan (80,82)

TF 166 troops unloading over beach at Sibuyan, 80,82





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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 29
Ki-30 Ann x 29
Ki-36 Ida x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 28
Ki-51 Sonia x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 69
Ki-30 Ann x 5



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 11



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

the usual daily air attacks in the SRA we have seen for months already...

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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 49,141 (Geraldton)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 12
B-17E Fortress x 16


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

and we keep hitting the enemy at Geraldton and I have no clue why he doesn't land more here... we spot enemy convoys West of Perth every day, seems like an invasion armada plus some cruisers (probably BB)... but why they just sit there, no idea... doubt it is a good idea though...


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 49,141 (Geraldton)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kingscote at 62,167

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
D3A1 Val x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAKL Oorama, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk

I am operating small convoys in the area and the IJ carriers find a scattered one as the carriers now seem to move SE towards Melbourne... hmm, his convoys are sitting off Perth and he moves his carriers SE? He might recombine this carrier division with the carriers sitting NE of Brisbane...


Aircraft Attacking:
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Oorama





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Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 34718 troops, 325 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 979

Defending force 13300 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 362

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1391

Allied adjusted defense: 895

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1174 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled


Allied ground losses:
701 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled

damn, we are going to lose soon and the enemy won't pay for it with destroyed squads...

Assaulting units:
15th Division
22nd Division
36th Division

Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
25th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at Malang (55,105)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2538 troops, 238 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 452

Defending force 35649 troops, 305 guns, 124 vehicles, Assault Value = 632


Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
2nd KNIL Regiment
Marinier Battalion
3rd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
1st Regt Cavalerie
Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion
4th KNIL Regiment
2nd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Lijfwacht Cav Sqn
Barisan KNIL Regiment
1st KNIL Regiment
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
6th KNIL Regiment
Batavia Base Force
South Java Base Force
Commandement Marine
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
2 ML-KNIL Aviation
ML-KNIL
MLD
KNIL Army Command
Soerabaja Base Force
ABDA
North Java Base Force
Bandoeng Base Force


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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6228 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 208

Defending force 1973 troops, 43 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Japanese adjusted assault: 79

Allied adjusted defense: 34

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarakan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
2525 casualties reported
Squads: 51 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 103 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 44 (44 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3


Assaulting units:
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Coastal Gun Battalion
Tarakan Base Force






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Does he go for all of Australia?



good question, he is currently landing North East of Brisbane (two divs plus some support), his carriers are coming from the Perth area down towards Melbourne and he has several convoys sitting West of Perth doing nothing (which is something I don't understand at all).

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ASW attack near King Island at 79,172

Japanese Ships
SS I-165

Allied Ships
DD Thracian



SS I-165 is sighted by escort
DD Thracian fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thracian fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thracian fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thracian fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thracian fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Perth at 41,146, Range 7,000 Yards




Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
DD Harusame
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Shinonome
DD Mikazuki, Shell hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Voyager
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1
DD Vendetta, Shell hits 1

have sent out my destroyer squadrons that are based in the Perth area to investigate those convoys sitting West of Perth and the first TF we meet is a single heavy cruiser that is screened by four destroyers... not really a frightening force even though it should have bene enough for my destroyers but my second line DD win that encounter... I also have a RN cruiser squadron in the area and I have kept them secret so far but seeing this cover force for all those convoys sitting off Perth I have ordered the cruisers to engage, takes two days to be in striking range... when my cruisers will show up there will probably be some battlewaggons and more cruiser stuff around but who knows, we might get some good hits and I just have to react now as an invasion of Australia is surely stepping across the line I have drawn...



Reduced sighting due to 14% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 14% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 7,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
CA Myoko engages DD Vendetta at 7,000 yards
DD Mikazuki engages DD Vendetta at 7,000 yards
DD Vendetta engages DD Mikazuki at 7,000 yards
DD Vampire engages DD Mikazuki at 7,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Vampire at 7,000 yards
CA Myoko engages DD Vendetta at 7,000 yards
DD Mikazuki engages DD Vampire at 7,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Vendetta at 7,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Vendetta at 7,000 yards
DD Vampire engages DD Harusame at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Vampire engages DD Mikazuki at 8,000 yards
DD Mikazuki engages DD Voyager at 8,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Voyager at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Vendetta engages DD Mikazuki at 10,000 yards
DD Vendetta engages DD Mikazuki at 10,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Shinonome at 10,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Voyager at 10,000 yards
DD Vampire engages DD Harusame at 10,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Perth at 41,147, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Murasame, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Shimushu, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 1
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 1
DD Banckert, Shell hits 3, on fire

the second destroyer squadron are the Dutch and while I've thought the Brits would be whiped out by CA Myoko I expected the Dutch to outperform Murasame which shows up with E Shimushu which seems another rather strange TF for me... Murasame easily handled my four destroyers though, sinking Kortenaer and hitting the other three... Murasame should be done too though...

so if the enemy convoys stay where they are then they should encounter my RN cruisers in two turns and I have another surprise for the IJN if the situation stays as it is this turn...


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 21,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Haack G. crosses the 'T'
didn't help, Murasame put out more shells than my four DD together...
DD Murasame engages DD Witte de With at 15,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 15,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 9,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 9,000 yards
DD Kortenaer engages DD Murasame at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 7,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Murasame at 7,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DD Murasame at 7,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Banckert at 6,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages E Shimushu at 6,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DD Murasame at 6,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 6,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Banckert at 6,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Murasame at 6,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DD Murasame at 6,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 6,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Murasame at 6,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 6,000 yards
DD Kortenaer engages DD Murasame at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DD Murasame at 5,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Murasame at 5,000 yards
DD Kortenaer engages E Shimushu at 5,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Murasame at 5,000 yards
DD Kortenaer engages E Shimushu at 5,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 5,000 yards
DD Kortenaer engages DD Murasame at 5,000 yards
Suenaga, Naoji orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 7,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Witte de With at 7,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Banckert at 9,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 9,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Murasame at 12,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 12,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Kortenaer at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Banckert at 14,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages E Shimushu at 14,000 yards
DD Evertsen engages DD Murasame at 14,000 yards
DD Kortenaer engages DD Murasame at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Banckert at 18,000 yards
DD Witte de With engages DD Murasame at 18,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Evertsen at 18,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 69
Ki-30 Ann x 5



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Do-24K-1: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 11



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 28
Ki-30 Ann x 29
Ki-36 Ida x 9
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 34
Ki-51 Sonia x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 4 damaged
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 107 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20
Ki-30 Ann x 20



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 5th Division, at 49,141 (Geraldton)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 8
B-17E Fortress x 18


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Amphibious Assault at Hao (183,183)

TF 124 troops unloading over beach at Hao, 183,183

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



75mm Infantry Gun lost from landing craft during unload of Maizuru 1st SNLF /2


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Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 34136 troops, 326 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 911

Defending force 12396 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 264

Japanese adjusted assault: 1268

Allied adjusted defense: 337

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wenchow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
575 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 94 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled


Allied ground losses:
4456 casualties reported
Squads: 183 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 122 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (9 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 3


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
22nd Division
15th Division
36th Division

Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
25th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force

we lose Wenchow and in the end the enemy mostly only suffers disablements...

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Ground combat at Malang (55,105)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2538 troops, 238 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 452

Defending force 35664 troops, 305 guns, 124 vehicles, Assault Value = 630



Assaulting units:
16th Infantry Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
3rd Mortar Battalion
56th Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
3rd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
2nd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Lijfwacht Cav Sqn
Marinier Battalion
2nd KNIL Regiment
Barisan KNIL Regiment
Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
4th KNIL Regiment
1st Regt Cavalerie
1st KNIL Regiment
6th KNIL Regiment
KNIL Army Command
Commandement Marine
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
ML-KNIL
Batavia Base Force
MLD
Soerabaja Base Force
North Java Base Force
ABDA
2 ML-KNIL Aviation
South Java Base Force
Bandoeng Base Force


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Ground combat at Probolinggo (56,105)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 684 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 21

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Probolinggo !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
II/81st Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Hao (183,183)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 698 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 32

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 16

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hao !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF /3






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Submarine attack near Maryborough at 98,157

Japanese Ships
xAK Kosei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Nautilus



xAK Kosei Maru is sighted by SS Nautilus
SS Nautilus launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kosei Maru

got a couple of fleet subs operating off the enemy's invasion beaches but they are all useless anyway carrying the Mk-14...

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Pre-Invasion action off Port Augusta (75,159)

WTH?

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CL Tama
AK Kaga Maru
DD Uranami


Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


CA Suzuya firing at RAAF OTU Augusta
CL Tama firing at RAAF OTU Augusta
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Port Augusta (75,159)

TF 253 troops unloading over beach at Port Augusta, 75,159

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)



Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 2nd Recon Rgt
16 troops of a IJA Cavalry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 1st Recon Rgt
Motorized Support lost from landing craft during unload of 1st Recon Rgt
Type 97 Medium Tank lost overboard during unload of 3rd Tank Rgt /2
Motorized Support dropped into water during unload of 3rd Tank Rgt /2
Type 95 Light Tank lost overboard during unload of 9th Tank Rgt

damn it, enemy tank Army landing at Port Augusta, vital spot in the defense of Australia as it cuts the rail connection between Western and Eastern Australia... I've just railed in a tank unit and a mot inf bgd but I doubt they will be able to hold, especially as we now have spotted several convoys, not just the carriers and an unidentified task force! Seems like another MAJOR amphib operation is probably bringing a whole Army to Port Augusta...

anybody like to discuss the amphib bonus?

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Invasion Support action off Port Augusta (75,159)

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Kaga Maru
DD Uranami


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 16



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 49,141 (Geraldton)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 11
B-17E Fortress x 19


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

at least that part of 5th Div won't be able to do anything... rest of the IJN convoys is still sitting halve a dozen hexes West of Perth... please stay there...

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Adelaide at 75,163

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 81 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45
B5N2 Kate x 18
D3A1 Val x 35



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 49


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Thracian, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc Warrawee, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Thanet

I wasn't really sure what the enemy is up to, in fact I didn't expect him to land at Port Augusta, nor did we spot that big number of convoys going all the way around Perth down to Port Augusta and I thought some ships could go to Adelaide so I've sent two destroyers to disrupt things a little... there was also an AMc at the base for mine sweeping duties if needed, all three vessels are attacked by a strike launched by Hiryu and Zuikaku which is met by four P-40 squadrons that did really well but there weren't enough of them to wreck havoc even though we downed quite a number of carrier aircraft again, hopefully this will pay off at some point... Thracian won't make it and Warrawee was sunk, Thanet retreats South...

this invasion of Port Augusta can prove to be a real danger for us, excellent move while it would be all five times harder without the amphib bonus but I am tired complaining about such a feature as it doesn't help anyway so I just have to live with it for another 17 days...

I was quite surprised by the high number of escorts, which convinces me that there are Hiryu, Zuikaku, Shokaku and at least two or three CVL as I am sure most of the Zeroes would be flying Cap and not escort... lots of Cap fighters turned back due to low fuel or ammo or whatever other defects, none of the escorts suffered from these factors... is this wad? see it all the time... that means 1/3 of your Cap turns around due to these issues while the escorts aren't... shouldn't it go for both sides?

unfortunately there was no strike in the afternoon as this could have meant a good dozen IJN losses more...




Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
3rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
13rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
20th PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
33rd PS (P) with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes



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Invasion Support action off Port Augusta (75,159)

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Kaga Maru
DD Uranami


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Ground combat at Malang (55,105)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2544 troops, 238 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 452

Defending force 35826 troops, 305 guns, 124 vehicles, Assault Value = 638

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Barisan KNIL Regiment
2nd KNIL Regiment
Lijfwacht Cav Sqn
2nd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
1st Regt Cavalerie
Marinier Battalion
1st KNIL Regiment
4th KNIL Regiment
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
3rd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
6th KNIL Regiment
South Java Base Force
ML-KNIL
MLD
Commandement Marine
2 ML-KNIL Aviation
ABDA
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
KNIL Army Command
Soerabaja Base Force
North Java Base Force
Batavia Base Force
Bandoeng Base Force


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Ground combat at 54,49 (near Prome)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1990 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 80

Defending force 528 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Japanese adjusted assault: 44

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: morale(-)

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
146 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
55th Cavalry Regiment
7th RTA/B Division

Defending units:
Rangoon BAF Battalion
6th Burma Rifles Battalion


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Ground combat at Roxas (79,83)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1181 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 142 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 38

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 38 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Roxas !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:


Allied ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
I./124th Infantry Battalion

Defending units:
3rd PI Base Force







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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 5:14:25 PM   
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Are these West cost invasions below the line where you get the extra Aussie reinforcements or is he walking that tight rope as well?

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 6:37:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		He has quite a long supply line and two distinct separate invasion points to support. If you can keep KB engaged at one, it might be a chance to use your carriers to disrupt supply to the other. Or counter invade a key hex on his line of supply route. (Milne Bay or Rossell Island come to mind). Even if you eventually lose it, it will throw a wrench into his plans and force him to react-and no invasion bonus soon. Right now he seems to be on a very tight timetable. Anything to disrupt him might just really screw him up. And given the date, he can't have very much defending his rear areas.

I also concur in that I don't think you need to fret about him grabbing all the dot bases in the Pacific. He can't sustain them and you only need to take the ones back that suit your needs. I don't really know why he is doing it except to perhaps confuse you.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 8:14:28 PM   
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Are these West cost invasions below the line where you get the extra Aussie reinforcements or is he walking that tight rope as well?

Wa



no, not yet, but he probably will take some bases on the East coast that will trigger reinforcements

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/4/2012 8:16:26 PM   
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He has quite a long supply line and two distinct separate invasion points to support. If you can keep KB engaged at one, it might be a chance to use your carriers to disrupt supply to the other. Or counter invade a key hex on his line of supply route. (Milne Bay or Rossell Island come to mind). Even if you eventually lose it, it will throw a wrench into his plans and force him to react-and no invasion bonus soon. Right now he seems to be on a very tight timetable. Anything to disrupt him might just really screw him up. And given the date, he can't have very much defending his rear areas.

I also concur in that I don't think you need to fret about him grabbing all the dot bases in the Pacific. He can't sustain them and you only need to take the ones back that suit your needs. I don't really know why he is doing it except to perhaps confuse you.



I doubt he would care about Milne Bay at all, because I own PM and he doesn't care. I don't worry about the dots in the Pacific nor can I take them all back as I would have to prep my units for three months for each dot, otherwhise landing at empty dots would cause too many losses, no amphib fantasy bonus for the Allied, even if they were the ones doing real amphib operations, not the Japanese.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 2:38:15 AM   
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But hey, this thread is called ending an IJ wet dream and this is what I intend to do. So far it looks impressing what the enemy did, but basically I can only repeat myself, he took EMPTY ground and when he tried to tangle with a place that was defended it didn't go according to his plan. We'll see how his adventure will turn out, I can asure you, even if he would succeed taking Australia, it will for sure NOT GO ACCORDING TO HIS PLANS!


Haha, that's the spirit! To be clear, I didn't mean anything bad by my comments - they were just me being silly mostly, although I don't think you took them wrong way. The idea of IJ amphibious landings in Antarctica was too funny, made me respond.

His logistical constraints in southern/western Australia are an interesting puzzle. Does he sail all the way back to the DEI to replenish ammo and sorties, or has he brought along nav support and auxiliaries to turn one of the small local ports into a base of operations? 5th fleet over on Fiji or New Caledonia would work too, but transiting the Tasman Sea for resupply seems like sheer craziness. I guess if he overruns Adelaide or Perth the problem goes away.

Regarding the fight with Murasame, I've often wondered if the surface combat model actually has any penalty for getting shot at more than one time in a combat round. Seems like one ship can return fire effectively to any number of attackers in a single combat round, which feels a little counterintuitive.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 2:50:48 AM   
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Speaking as a mostly Japan player this is just utterly preposterous. It's game engine optimisation gone mad.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 2:28:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the plus side, KB's fighters being used on escort missions into heavy P40 CAP is surely pretty much the ideal situation for you. The edge should be taken off KB fairly quickly at this rate.

As for dot hexes, if they are totally undefended you could run rampant with some paras. Sub raid on one atoll, get some transport a/c there, and then everything in range thats exposed is yours, all bloodlessly. I think paras can drop by Catalina no? so you need a sub, an AV, a para battalion and and a Catalina squadron.

Assuming you have any paras at this point in the war, and that assumes that they really are empty.

Probably a good idea to take as much as you can bloodlessly when you can, as even a baseforce there will stop that and force the slow route. It sounds like he's relying on the landing losses alone to deter rapid counterinvasion.

added: especially as his amphib bonus is about to expire so he wont simply be able to march back in at will.

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But hey, this thread is called ending an IJ wet dream and this is what I intend to do. So far it looks impressing what the enemy did, but basically I can only repeat myself, he took EMPTY ground and when he tried to tangle with a place that was defended it didn't go according to his plan. We'll see how his adventure will turn out, I can asure you, even if he would succeed taking Australia, it will for sure NOT GO ACCORDING TO HIS PLANS!


Haha, that's the spirit! To be clear, I didn't mean anything bad by my comments - they were just me being silly mostly, although I don't think you took them wrong way. The idea of IJ amphibious landings in Antarctica was too funny, made me respond.

His logistical constraints in southern/western Australia are an interesting puzzle. Does he sail all the way back to the DEI to replenish ammo and sorties, or has he brought along nav support and auxiliaries to turn one of the small local ports into a base of operations? 5th fleet over on Fiji or New Caledonia would work too, but transiting the Tasman Sea for resupply seems like sheer craziness. I guess if he overruns Adelaide or Perth the problem goes away.

Regarding the fight with Murasame, I've often wondered if the surface combat model actually has any penalty for getting shot at more than one time in a combat round. Seems like one ship can return fire effectively to any number of attackers in a single combat round, which feels a little counterintuitive.



When I see how many IJN ships (hundreds) operate SOUTH!!! of Australia one can not speak about any logistical constraints at all for the IJN in this game, it just does not exist, no matter what ppl are saying, this is once more a good prove for it. I am struggling in every game to have enough fuel at the frontline using EVERY available tanker and the IJN happily sails two hundred xAK/xAP covered by literally all available BB/CV/CA into positions West, East and South of Australia and we are in MARCH 42!

As to surface combat, yeah, every ship that is fired upon seems to be able to fire back at each and every enemy that shoots the ship. Counterintuitive is spot on in this regard.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 2:33:14 PM   
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On the plus side, KB's fighters being used on escort missions into heavy P40 CAP is surely pretty much the ideal situation for you. The edge should be taken off KB fairly quickly at this rate.

As for dot hexes, if they are totally undefended you could run rampant with some paras. Sub raid on one atoll, get some transport a/c there, and then everything in range thats exposed is yours, all bloodlessly. I think paras can drop by Catalina no? so you need a sub, an AV, a para battalion and and a Catalina squadron.

Assuming you have any paras at this point in the war, and that assumes that they really are empty.

Probably a good idea to take as much as you can bloodlessly when you can, as even a baseforce there will stop that and force the slow route. It sounds like he's relying on the landing losses alone to deter rapid counterinvasion.



Bluebook surely isn't happy about his carriers launching strikes against targets covered by Cap and he sure isn't deliberately doing so. But all in all, we haven't killed enough of KB's airwing yet.

I guess I will never care about all the dots, let alone at this stage now. The para + patrol ac idea is a good one though.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 3:10:18 PM   
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When I see how many IJN ships (hundreds) operate SOUTH!!! of Australia one can not speak about any logistical constraints at all for the IJN in this game, it just does not exist, no matter what ppl are saying, this is once more a good prove for it. I am struggling in every game to have enough fuel at the frontline using EVERY available tanker and the IJN happily sails two hundred xAK/xAP covered by literally all available BB/CV/CA into positions West, East and South of Australia and we are in MARCH 42


Read Greyjoy vs. Radier ...Here in Scenario #2 the IJ not only took India & China .. but sank almost the entire USN/RN including AP's .. but in '44 the Allies get so much stuff that this IJ strategy of extension failed when Greyjoy pulled off the Hokkido Hurricane .. .The game ended because the system cannot handle at least the number of platforms in scenario #2 [Allied fighter/IJ fighters and Allied bombers OOB] that were all within range on the home islands. My own evaluation of the situation is that the IJ would have been hard pressed to last unitl '46.

Such is the opporunity here is you are paitent.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 3:45:09 PM   
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When I see how many IJN ships (hundreds) operate SOUTH!!! of Australia one can not speak about any logistical constraints at all for the IJN in this game, it just does not exist, no matter what ppl are saying, this is once more a good prove for it. I am struggling in every game to have enough fuel at the frontline using EVERY available tanker and the IJN happily sails two hundred xAK/xAP covered by literally all available BB/CV/CA into positions West, East and South of Australia and we are in MARCH 42!



Bluebook is burning lot of fuel by doing that. Early 1942 Japan have enough fuel reserves to support that kind of operations, but he must be losing fuel rapidly.

It almost seems like your opponent is not going to play this game past 1942...

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 3:51:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Guys, I never meant to spark a discussion on the value or lack thereof for dot hexes in empty wasteland areas of the south pacific. I was only trying to point out that the forces being used to take them were likely very susceptable to attrition and possibly open to putting an outright stop to such mad island grabbing by the intervention of very little force.

Castor discounted the usefullness of going after them by stating that he did it all with an xAK and a small assault unit that wasn't worth wasting his carriers on. I agree, but a force of 2 DDs or a light SAG of a CL and a couple of DDs could just as easily have put a stop to it.

Personally, I think it's worth shutting down his expansion wherever and whenever you can. Surely he would have just loaded up another xAK with another small assault unit and went right back to his old tricks serving up another small force for the slaughter.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 4:54:13 PM   
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When I see how many IJN ships (hundreds) operate SOUTH!!! of Australia one can not speak about any logistical constraints at all for the IJN in this game, it just does not exist, no matter what ppl are saying, this is once more a good prove for it. I am struggling in every game to have enough fuel at the frontline using EVERY available tanker and the IJN happily sails two hundred xAK/xAP covered by literally all available BB/CV/CA into positions West, East and South of Australia and we are in MARCH 42


Read Greyjoy vs. Radier ...Here in Scenario #2 the IJ not only took India & China .. but sank almost the entire USN/RN including AP's .. but in '44 the Allies get so much stuff that this IJ strategy of extension failed when Greyjoy pulled off the Hokkido Hurricane .. .The game ended because the system cannot handle at least the number of platforms in scenario #2 [Allied fighter/IJ fighters and Allied bombers OOB] that were all within range on the home islands. My own evaluation of the situation is that the IJ would have been hard pressed to last unitl '46.

Such is the opporunity here is you are paitent.



I know GJ and Rader's game and I don't worry about me at all, not even if he would take all of Australia, I can wait for 18 months and land anywhere I like to. But I really had to wonder how it is possible for the IJN to operate more or less the whole Navy 1800 miles away from the next bigger port.

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When I see how many IJN ships (hundreds) operate SOUTH!!! of Australia one can not speak about any logistical constraints at all for the IJN in this game, it just does not exist, no matter what ppl are saying, this is once more a good prove for it. I am struggling in every game to have enough fuel at the frontline using EVERY available tanker and the IJN happily sails two hundred xAK/xAP covered by literally all available BB/CV/CA into positions West, East and South of Australia and we are in MARCH 42!



Bluebook is burning lot of fuel by doing that. Early 1942 Japan have enough fuel reserves to support that kind of operations, but he must be losing fuel rapidly.

It almost seems like your opponent is not going to play this game past 1942...



bluebook said he wants to do better than real life and even if he would take losses (he will, I can guarantee you this) he will not give in. It's not really about having the fuel, but you also have to have it where you need it which makes me just even more shaking my head when I see where all those massive convoys are operating.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/5/2012 4:59:38 PM   
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Guys, I never meant to spark a discussion on the value or lack thereof for dot hexes in empty wasteland areas of the south pacific. I was only trying to point out that the forces being used to take them were likely very susceptable to attrition and possibly open to putting an outright stop to such mad island grabbing by the intervention of very little force.

Castor discounted the usefullness of going after them by stating that he did it all with an xAK and a small assault unit that wasn't worth wasting his carriers on. I agree, but a force of 2 DDs or a light SAG of a CL and a couple of DDs could just as easily have put a stop to it.

Personally, I think it's worth shutting down his expansion wherever and whenever you can. Surely he would have just loaded up another xAK with another small assault unit and went right back to his old tricks serving up another small force for the slaughter.

Just my two cents.



yeah, but the dots won't help nor harm me. The target is Australia and we'll have to focus on it. Letting him do what he did so far without opposition everywhere got one big reason, I don't give a lot on the areas he took. And like I've said earlier already, he might have a chance to take Australia but I can asure you, it won't go as smooth as taking empty area's in SOPAC.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/6/2012 11:58:11 AM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 15, 42
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Invasion Support action off Port Augusta (75,159)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Kaga Maru
DD Uranami

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Busselton at 39,150, Range 24,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Shell hits 8, on fire
DD Harusame, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Fubuki

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
CL Glasgow, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Boise, Shell hits 1
DD Stronghold, Shell hits 2
DD Tenedos
DD Encounter, Shell hits 1, on fire

this engagement pretty much confirms what we have said recently, a single ship will fire at every ship it is fired from and in the case of the Japanese, it means these ships constantly turn out as super heroes... you just have to read below's combat summary which shows that Myoko fired like wild, literally knocking out my Brit/US cruiser force... all of those hits were either penetrating or exploded in the super structure, leaving my two British heavy cruisers in a poor state... once again an IJN super hero result we see just too often but one can keep insisting this is all fine... Myoko's belt armor was strong enough to see the British 8 inch shells bouncing from longer range...

so with the way it is working, you see one cruiser putting out more shells than four cruisers together... clear IJN victory... would there have been a second IJN CA we would probably not have a single ship left... this is a daylight encounter for those that would like to bring up another argument how super hero like the IJN was in night engagements...

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 24,000 yards
Japanese open fire on surprised Allied ships at 24,000 yards
CA Myoko fires at CA Dorsetshire at 24,000 yards
CA Myoko fires at CA Dorsetshire at 24,000 yards
CA Myoko fires at CL Glasgow at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Myoko at 18,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Harusame at 18,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Boise at 18,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 18,000 yards
CA Myoko engages DD Stronghold at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
DD Tenedos collides with CL Boise at 39 , 150
DD Fubuki engages DD Encounter at 13,000 yards
DD Harusame engages CL Boise at 13,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages CA Myoko at 13,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Encounter at 13,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Harusame at 13,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Fubuki at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Cornwall at 10,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages CA Myoko at 10,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Myoko at 10,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Encounter at 10,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Fubuki at 10,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stronghold at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Cornwall at 9,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Dorsetshire at 9,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Tenedos at 9,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 9,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Encounter at 9,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Tenedos at 9,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stronghold at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Cornwall at 11,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Dorsetshire at 11,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Stronghold at 11,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 11,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Encounter at 11,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Tenedos at 11,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Harusame at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Myoko at 14,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Encounter at 14,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Encounter at 14,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 14,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Encounter at 14,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stronghold at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Myoko at 18,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Encounter at 18,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Harusame at 18,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 18,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Encounter at 18,000 yards
DD Harusame engages DD Stronghold at 18,000 yards
Yamazumi, Teijiro orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 21,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Cornwall at 21,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Fubuki at 21,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Harusame at 21,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 21,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Myoko at 21,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Harusame at 21,000 yards
Range increases to 22,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Fubuki at 22,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages CA Myoko at 21,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Myoko at 21,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Fubuki at 21,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CL Glasgow at 21,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Cornwall at 21,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Fubuki at 21,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Harusame at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages CA Myoko at 21,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Harusame at 23,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages CA Myoko at 23,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages CA Myoko at 24,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Fubuki at 24,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Harusame at 24,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages CA Myoko at 24,000 yards
Range increases to 26,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Myoko at 26,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA Dorsetshire at 26,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Harusame at 26,000 yards
CA Cornwall engages CA Myoko at 26,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages CA Myoko at 26,000 yards
CL Boise engages CA Myoko at 26,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Busselton at 39,150, Range 25,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Wakatake

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
CL Glasgow, heavy fires
CL Boise
DD Stronghold
DD Tenedos

Cornwall was so heavily damaged by Myoko that she was split off the cruiser squadron and she's retiring to Perth together with DD Encounter... amazingly enough, Dorsetshire was still part of this TF, it was Boise to sink Shinonome with 6 inch shell hits...

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Wakatake at 25,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages DD Shinonome at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Shinonome at 19,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages CL Glasgow at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Wakatake at 15,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Shinonome at 15,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages DD Shinonome at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Wakatake at 13,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Shinonome at 13,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages DD Shinonome at 13,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Wakatake at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages DD Wakatake at 11,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Stronghold at 11,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Tenedos at 11,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Wakatake at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
DD Wakatake engages CA Dorsetshire at 7,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Shinonome at 7,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages DD Shinonome at 7,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Shinonome at 7,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Shinonome at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Wakatake at 9,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Shinonome at 9,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages DD Shinonome at 9,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages DD Wakatake at 9,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages DD Wakatake at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Shinonome at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Tenedos at 16,000 yards
Range increases to 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages DD Shinonome at 21,000 yards
Range increases to 26,000 yards
CL Boise engages DD Shinonome at 26,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Busselton at 39,150, Range 21,000 Yards




Japanese Ships
xAK Kinugawa Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAK Zenyo Maru
xAK Nako Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Johore Maru, Shell hits 28, and is sunk
xAP Manzyu Maru, Shell hits 2
xAP Koan Maru, Shell hits 2
xAP Kongo Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAP Huso Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAP Dairen Maru
xAP Hoten Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
xAP Tsingtao Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAP Taizan Maru
xAP Shanghai Maru, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Naminoue Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Ukishima Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire, heavy fires
CL Glasgow, heavy fires
CL Boise
DD Stronghold
DD Tenedos

Japanese ground losses:
2163 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 152 destroyed, 190 disabled
Engineers: 24 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 74 (37 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Vehicles lost 43 (30 destroyed, 13 disabled)


WOW! I just can't believe that bluebook really only covers this huge armada (there are more than just this TF in the hex) with only one heavy cruiser and not even halve a dozen destroyers... imagine if our cruiser squadron would have performed as you would expect it during a daylight engagement of a far superior force vs a totally outgunned enemy, we would probably have whiped out halve of this convoy... we sink one and heavily damage another freighter but ground losses are severe already... this is what I earlier called "not working according to plan" for the enemy... am sure this convoy is carrying at least one IJA div... and there should be another surprise for the IJN...

there wasn't a single escort for this troop convoy...

we pay with two heavy and one light cruiser in a pityful state, all three of them in worse state than Myoko... while they aren't in imminent danger of sinking another engagement with enemy cruisers would probably finish them, don't want to think about the IJN CV showing up but they are still covering the invasion at Port Augusta... mistake, BIG mistake...


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
CL Glasgow engages xAK Johore Maru at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAK Johore Maru at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAK Kinugawa Maru at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Naminoue Maru at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAK Johore Maru at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Koan Maru at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Manzyu Maru at 21,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAK Kinugawa Maru at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Naminoue Maru at 20,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAK Johore Maru at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Johore Maru at 18,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Koan Maru at 18,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Manzyu Maru at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Naminoue Maru at 14,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Koan Maru at 14,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Manzyu Maru at 14,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Nako Maru at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Shanghai Maru at 11,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAK Johore Maru at 11,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Manzyu Maru at 11,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Johore Maru at 11,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages xAK Nako Maru at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Johore Maru at 7,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Shanghai Maru at 7,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages xAK Johore Maru at 7,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Johore Maru at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Johore Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Glasgow engages xAP Shanghai Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages xAK Johore Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAP Tsingtao Maru at 8,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Hoten Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAP Dairen Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAP Kongo Maru at 8,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages xAK Johore Maru at 8,000 yards
Somerville, James F orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAP Ukishima Maru at 10,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Johore Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages xAP Shanghai Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Tenedos engages xAK Johore Maru at 10,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages xAP Koan Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAP Manzyu Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAK Nako Maru at 10,000 yards
DD Stronghold engages xAK Kinugawa Maru at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages xAP Ukishima Maru at 15,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Naminoue Maru at 15,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Hoten Maru at 15,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Kongo Maru at 15,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages xAK Johore Maru at 15,000 yards
CA Dorsetshire engages xAK Kinugawa Maru at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 19,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Naminoue Maru at 19,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Tsingtao Maru at 19,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Huso Maru at 19,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAK Johore Maru at 19,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Ukishima Maru at 23,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Tsingtao Maru at 23,000 yards
CL Boise engages xAP Huso Maru at 23,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 52



Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
AMc Gunbar, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

with the enemy invasion of SOUTHERN Australia I had to fly out my fighters that were based at Darwin to to fight the Japanese some 1500 miles further SOUTH...

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Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 109 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAKL Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AMc Beryl, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk



Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Massive explosion on AMc Beryl

I do have quite a number of heavy flak guns at Darwin but the effect isn't really notable...

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field USAAF Base Force, at 80,76 (Cabanatuan)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 24
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 6
Ki-30 Ann x 54
Ki-36 Ida x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 37
Ki-51 Sonia x 15



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-36 Ida: 2 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Clark Field USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Manila USAAF Base Force ...

I have moved my base forces out of Clark Field, those units alone used up 80% of all supply there, they are now on suicide mission... NEVER, I say NEVER have flak guns at a base under siege when you can't bring in supplies, no notable effect but those units alone will use up all your supply...

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Morning Air attack on Clark Field USAAF Base Force, at 80,76 (Cabanatuan)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 22



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 69
Ki-30 Ann x 5



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 11



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 3rd Tank Regiment, at 75,159 (Port Augusta)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 20
B-26 Marauder x 40


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 59 (3 destroyed, 56 disabled)

ordered my bombers from Melbourne to attack the enemy tank Army landing at Port Augusta and in good weather we do some nice damage... this attack nearly had the PBEM being abandoned as result as I was told that this turn had to be redone because I have used my B-17 at 6000ft. Now there was never a hr for 4E A2G attacks, only for nav attack below 10000ft and I replied that I would never redo that turn... I was forced into a new hr of no 4E on ground attack below 10000ft as result, otherwise my opponent would have dropped the game as he said the 4E (not even three dozen of them mind you) would kill his Army in Australia alone... funny, someone throws all realism over board doing those crazy invasions that are nothing but pure game fantasy and then insists my 4E are too powerful - this is Babeslite, bomb effect was HALVED!

at least in the end he had to admit that there was no hr I have broken but the game only continued with a new hr on 4E... that the 40 Marauders did far more damage here is for sure...

we identified leaking Cap from two enemy CV and a CVL...



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 9th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 9th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 5th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 26th Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking 5th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Recon Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Tank Regiment ...


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Morning Air attack on 5th Tank Regiment, at 75,159 (Port Augusta)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 7


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Also attacking 26th Recon Regiment ...


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Afternoon Air attack on 5th Division, at 49,141 (Geraldton)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 8


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Amphibious Assault at Catbalogan (82,84)

TF 166 troops unloading over beach at Catbalogan, 82,84





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Ground combat at Port Augusta (75,159)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4567 troops, 12 guns, 422 vehicles, Assault Value = 247

Defending force 5335 troops, 29 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 160

Japanese adjusted assault: 143

Allied adjusted defense: 111

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
239 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
407 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 19 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 56 (46 destroyed, 10 disabled)

in bluebook's oppinion the two dozen 4E at 6000ft were the reason this shock attack failed... the fact how totally silly the overall situation is with a tank Army being unloaded in one turn at Port Augusta, 2000 miles away from the next IJ base is of course perfectly fine... screw the silly amphib bonus...

Assaulting units:
5th Tank Regiment
1st Recon Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
26th Recon Regiment

Defending units:
2/4th Armoured Regiment
6th Aus Cav Brigade
RAAF OTU Augusta


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Ground combat at Malang (55,105)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2536 troops, 237 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 452

Defending force 35930 troops, 305 guns, 124 vehicles, Assault Value = 646

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
2nd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
4th KNIL Regiment
1st KNIL Regiment
Lijfwacht Cav Sqn
1st Regt Cavalerie
3rd KNIL Landstorm Battalion
2nd KNIL Regiment
1st KNIL Landstorm Battalion
Barisan KNIL Regiment
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
Marinier Battalion
Tjilatjap KNIL Battalion
6th KNIL Regiment
1 ML-KNIL Aviation
Soerabaja Base Force
Commandement Marine
KNIL Army Command
North Java Base Force
Batavia Base Force
ML-KNIL
South Java Base Force
2 ML-KNIL Aviation
ABDA
MLD
Bandoeng Base Force


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Ground combat at Port Augusta (75,159)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2046 troops, 18 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 107

Defending force 4336 troops, 12 guns, 421 vehicles, Assault Value = 209



Assaulting units:
6th Aus Cav Brigade
2/4th Armoured Regiment
RAAF OTU Augusta

Defending units:
9th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
1st Recon Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
26th Recon Regiment






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Post #: 356
RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/6/2012 2:33:50 PM   
crsutton


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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

He has quite a long supply line and two distinct separate invasion points to support. If you can keep KB engaged at one, it might be a chance to use your carriers to disrupt supply to the other. Or counter invade a key hex on his line of supply route. (Milne Bay or Rossell Island come to mind). Even if you eventually lose it, it will throw a wrench into his plans and force him to react-and no invasion bonus soon. Right now he seems to be on a very tight timetable. Anything to disrupt him might just really screw him up. And given the date, he can't have very much defending his rear areas.

I also concur in that I don't think you need to fret about him grabbing all the dot bases in the Pacific. He can't sustain them and you only need to take the ones back that suit your needs. I don't really know why he is doing it except to perhaps confuse you.



I doubt he would care about Milne Bay at all, because I own PM and he doesn't care. I don't worry about the dots in the Pacific nor can I take them all back as I would have to prep my units for three months for each dot, otherwhise landing at empty dots would cause too many losses, no amphib fantasy bonus for the Allied, even if they were the ones doing real amphib operations, not the Japanese.



No, but in retaking most of these bases the Allied don't need much help. Most will be weakly garrisoned if at all and when the Allied get LST, LCI, LCI and the smaller landing craft, they can pretty much throw any unprepped or lightly prepped unit ashore and the disruption will be moderate. Only real issue are atolls with a decent defense. They require a lot more preparation. A lot of players are in a hurry to recombine the gull, lark and sparrow units into their larger organic units but I find these units are prefect for this sort of mission. They all have great organic artillery support and are very strong for their size. Disruption aside, the Allies have plenty of small units available when time comes to retake some of these basses.

Like you said. It is more a nuisance than anything else.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/6/2012 2:41:01 PM   
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ordered my bombers from Melbourne to attack the enemy tank Army landing at Port Augusta and in good weather we do some nice damage... this attack nearly had the PBEM being abandoned as result as I was told that this turn had to be redone because I have used my B-17 at 6000ft. Now there was never a hr for 4E A2G attacks, only for nav attack below 10000ft and I replied that I would never redo that turn... I was forced into a new hr of no 4E on ground attack below 10000ft as result, otherwise my opponent would have dropped the game as he said the 4E (not even three dozen of them mind you) would kill his Army in Australia alone... funny, someone throws all realism over board doing those crazy invasions that are nothing but pure game fantasy and then insists my 4E are too powerful - this is Babeslite, bomb effect was HALVED!

at least in the end he had to admit that there was no hr I have broken but the game only continued with a new hr on 4E... that the 40 Marauders did far more damage here is for sure...


I'm a long time lurker on the forums and greatly enjoy your AARs but really have to comment on this: I find it really dissapointing that an opponent who constantly pushes the game rules to the breaking point would insist on a new HR at this point. I think it really reflects badly on Bluebook.

IMO, a bunch of tin can IJA tanks and tankettes running around Australia would have been mauled by bombers in real life so it's a bit rich to complain about it happening in the game.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/6/2012 3:06:11 PM   
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ordered my bombers from Melbourne to attack the enemy tank Army landing at Port Augusta and in good weather we do some nice damage... this attack nearly had the PBEM being abandoned as result as I was told that this turn had to be redone because I have used my B-17 at 6000ft. Now there was never a hr for 4E A2G attacks, only for nav attack below 10000ft and I replied that I would never redo that turn... I was forced into a new hr of no 4E on ground attack below 10000ft as result, otherwise my opponent would have dropped the game as he said the 4E (not even three dozen of them mind you) would kill his Army in Australia alone... funny, someone throws all realism over board doing those crazy invasions that are nothing but pure game fantasy and then insists my 4E are too powerful - this is Babeslite, bomb effect was HALVED!

at least in the end he had to admit that there was no hr I have broken but the game only continued with a new hr on 4E... that the 40 Marauders did far more damage here is for sure...


I'm a long time lurker on the forums and greatly enjoy your AARs but really have to comment on this: I find it really dissapointing that an opponent who constantly pushes the game rules to the breaking point would insist on a new HR at this point. I think it really reflects badly on Bluebook.

IMO, a bunch of tin can IJA tanks and tankettes running around Australia would have been mauled by bombers in real life so it's a bit rich to complain about it happening in the game.

Cheers,
DRF


Couldn't agree more. Your opponent appears to be the typical JFB who overexploits every over the top advantage the game designers gave to the Japanese while demanding that one of the only real threats the Allies have be nerfed by a house rule. I would recommend you look for a real man for an opponent in place of this spoiled child.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 4/6/2012 3:17:42 PM   
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When I see how many IJN ships (hundreds) operate SOUTH!!! of Australia one can not speak about any logistical constraints at all for the IJN in this game, it just does not exist, no matter what ppl are saying, this is once more a good prove for it. I am struggling in every game to have enough fuel at the frontline using EVERY available tanker and the IJN happily sails two hundred xAK/xAP covered by literally all available BB/CV/CA into positions West, East and South of Australia and we are in MARCH 42!



Bluebook is burning lot of fuel by doing that. Early 1942 Japan have enough fuel reserves to support that kind of operations, but he must be losing fuel rapidly.

It almost seems like your opponent is not going to play this game past 1942...



bluebook said he wants to do better than real life and even if he would take losses (he will, I can guarantee you this) he will not give in. It's not really about having the fuel, but you also have to have it where you need it which makes me just even more shaking my head when I see where all those massive convoys are operating.


We'll see about that...

He is using japanese biggest transports, those have very good range. I'll admit it's totally historical to operate ships that far south, but what I said is still valid. He has enough tankers and oilers to support that kind of operation, but that means home island is losing fuel rapidly. It takes lot of fuel to refuel battleships and carriers.



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IMO, a bunch of tin can IJA tanks and tankettes running around Australia would have been mauled by bombers in real life so it's a bit rich to complain about it happening in the game.



Not talking about Castor's game but in general, level bombers are way too effective vs. ground attack. In stock game allies could destroy one japanese infantry division in three days just by using level bombers. Historically it was totally impossible to destroy entire combat formation of a division just by dropping bombs at 10000 feet...

I think that was one of the reasons Babes team reduced bomb effectiveness. I sertainly hope that Babes scenarios have fixed that issue. It was not issue of 4Es, but level bombers in general.

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