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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/11/2012 11:29:25 PM

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************************************ 23 NOV 42 ***********************************************

Leadership 46 Naval 50 it looks like the Commander of the O-21 cannot get it done and will be replaced upon arrival to port .. then executed ..

Sub attack near Sangi at 76,96

Japanese Ships
xAK Canberra Maru
TK Kaizyo Maru
xAK Kano Maru
xAK Kagu Maru
xAK Seattle Maru
DD Shikinami
SC Ch 5

Allied Ships
SS O21

SS O21 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Canberra Maru

Bombing in China again .. no respite ..

Two interesting messages ..

33rd/B Division is planning for an attack on Lashio.

2/1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment is planning for an attack on Katherine.

If this was set this turn then the IJ have something in store. The 33rd B division is stuck at Bhamo facing 1:1 odds that will change if he starts moving . the 2/1 Hvy.Artillery Regiment is trapped being surrounded right now in Northern Oz ..

More later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/12/2012 4:33:49 PM

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We are in a very interesting postion in Burma. To the north Bhamo has 200 AV vs IJ 450 AV unsupplied. To the East two hexes southeast of Lashio the IJ have 450 AV and south of that is another 1000 AV. In Mandalay is 2000 AV and growing. Magwe has 400 AV right now. We have About 800 AV in Swebo, anthor 1400 AV at the railhead rough jungle hex next to Mandalay. 1000 AV north of that protecting the rail/road junction. To the west is 1000 AV moving on Magwe slugging it out in the rough jungle taking another month or so ..

The 7th Indian division is 300 AV we are about to bring into the fray. It can move on Bhamo and attrite the forces there. The division can reinforce Swebo. Or it can support the move on Magwe which will take another 2 months of marching through rough jungle.

Decisions Decisions :) I am thinking more of cleaning up the mess at Bhamo....bringing enough forces that the end of '43 a clear line is drawn north/south of Mandalay ....

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/12/2012 7:25:43 PM

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We exchange xAK's the SS Tautog has a live one ..

Sub attack near Hengchun at 85,68

Japanese Ships
xAK Jusan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Busho Maru
SC Ch 33
SC Ch 25
xAK Teisin Maru
xAK Sydney Maru #2
xAK Kosin Maru
DD Sanae
DD Harukaze
PB Yamahagi Maru #3
PB Shinko Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS Tautog

SS Tautog launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Jusan Maru

Then 4 DUD's ...
Submarine attack near Laoag at 82,70

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyunyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tautog

xAK Zyunyo Maru is sighted by SS Tautog
SS Tautog launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Zyunyo Maru

a PB hunts down the Tambor ..

Sub attack near Pescadores at 85,62

Japanese Ships
PB Bisaku Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

SS Tambor launches 2 torpedoes at PB Bisaku Maru

and the IJN have parked a submarine off of Perth ..

Submarine attack near Perth at 47,147

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
xAK Yoma, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAK Yoma is sighted by SS I-169
SS I-169 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Yoma

Bombing in China ...

Otherwise quiet ..

Next turn we unload a bombing run on a IJA target in the open .. at the very least it will provide some training ..

More later .

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 12:35:58 AM

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***************************** * 25 NOV 42 ***********************************************

I had a lot more bombing planned but one raid executed .. we smacked the 2nd raiding rgt that was a trigger to watch for my forces in the West ..

Morning Air attack on 2nd Raiding Regiment, at 57,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
Vengeance I x 32
.................

Morning Air attack on 2nd Raiding Regiment, at 57,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
Hurricane IIc Trop x 29
Liberator II x 16
Wellington Ic x 29
B-24D Liberator x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
357 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Morning Air attack on 2nd Raiding Regiment, at 57,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
B-24D Liberator x 23

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
162 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
..................

Morning Air attack on 2nd Raiding Regiment, at 57,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 60

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

700 casulties from about 1,800 troops ..

The Tambor goes cold ..

Sub attack near Taihoku at 88,62

Japanese Ships
xAK Kisaragi Maru
PB Bisaku Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

SS Tambor launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kisaragi Maru
.....................
Submarine attack near Taihoku at 88,62

Japanese Ships
xAKL Rozan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

xAKL Rozan Maru is sighted by SS Tambor
SS Tambor launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Rozan Maru

More bombing in China ...

More later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 3:05:35 PM

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BURMA 26 NOV 42:

The map below shows the IJ dispositions in Burma. They are occupying the rough jungle with 400 AV, which is about enough given the stacking restrictions as rough jungle X3 defense and one cannot get the adjusted 2:1 needed to move the defenders out.

One huge mistake was to get armor committed on the East side of Swebo. These units are locked in for '43 as moving them will take months. Probably the best thing to do is pull all the armor North and engage the units at Bhamo. At least the rules state that a line from Ledo can be drawn into China and the IJ are blocking this path now.

To the West, 1200 AV are gathering to put pressure on Magwe. At the very least more forces will move up from Rangoon and forces will move from Mandalay.

More later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 5:04:45 PM

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**************************************** 26 NOV 42 ******************************************

We scare an AKL ..

Sub attack near Pescadores at 85,62

Japanese Ships
xAKL Eiwa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

SS Tambor launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Eiwa Maru

More bombing in China .. but the ops losses are increasing ..

Morning Air attack on Changsha , at 82,52

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 7 damaged
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed by flak
..................
Morning Air attack on Changsha , at 82,52

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 damaged
Manpower hits 19
Fires 3024

Heavy rain and long range in OZ produces little casulties ..

Morning Air attack on 2/7th Armoured Regiment, at 74,127 , near Katherine

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

We bomb Tualgi for practice ..

Morning Air attack on Tulagi , at 114,137

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 11

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 10

Sweeps do not draw out the IJNAAF .. they're on the ground or hiding somewhere ...

IN Burma I forgot about a unit that did not fly .. they decide to do it now ..

Morning Air attack on 53rd Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

More later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 9:07:37 PM

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I think one thing Scenario #2 does not take in account is the reaction Congress had given real life and Two-Ocean Navy Act. I feel very confident that if the IJ decided to somehow ramp up for war like scenario #2 that we would in kind have devoted a lot more toward engaging the Japaneese. One can be selective with context and the facts at hand although :)

As it is in scenario #1 and the current 60 day variation in OOB the Allies have a challange in '43. In my game here .. the challange is keeping the pressure on Burma, while developing force projection in the Marshall's and Solomon's .. so far the IJ have pulled thier Air force into positions I cannot yet get at but they can project force unopposed. I have to figure out how to change that ...

Otherwise time clicks off the clock toward Hellcats and effective torps ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 9:29:13 PM

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I think one thing Scenario #2 does not take in account is the reaction Congress had given real life and Two-Ocean Navy Act. I feel very confident that if the IJ decided to somehow ramp up for war like scenario #2 that we would in kind have devoted a lot more toward engaging the Japaneese. One can be selective with context and the facts at hand although :)

I have thought this, but I'm beginning to wonder now. The more I learn the more I wonder if it's true. Where do the forces come from? Do you pull them from the Italian invasion? From the bombing over Germany? From the North Atlantic?

In '43 all of those areas were very closely run operations. It would have been tough to get more into the Pacific, and if more did come, it might not be that much more. Even about 20 more Lightnings a month from mid-42 on would really change the picture though, so maybe it wouldn't take that much.

I would like an Allied production system, maybe linked to PPs somehow. Changing would be a one-time cost of some PPs and then you could make 20 Lightnings a month instead of 40 P-39s.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 9:47:12 PM

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I think one thing Scenario #2 does not take in account is the reaction Congress had given real life and Two-Ocean Navy Act. I feel very confident that if the IJ decided to somehow ramp up for war like scenario #2 that we would in kind have devoted a lot more toward engaging the Japaneese. One can be selective with context and the facts at hand although :)

I have thought this, but I'm beginning to wonder now. The more I learn the more I wonder if it's true. Where do the forces come from? Do you pull them from the Italian invasion? From the bombing over Germany? From the North Atlantic?

In '43 all of those areas were very closely run operations. It would have been tough to get more into the Pacific, and if more did come, it might not be that much more. Even about 20 more Lightnings a month from mid-42 on would really change the picture though, so maybe it wouldn't take that much.

I would like an Allied production system, maybe linked to PPs somehow. Changing would be a one-time cost of some PPs and then you could make 20 Lightnings a month instead of 40 P-39s.

It took the S&G for Congress to wake up ..and start building the Navy. Simply it would be begining a mobilization one year ealier and one less year of WPA ;) I do not propose '44 in '43 but I would propose for example Montana platforms ... Simply the United States took an isolationist stance, which allowed for the transfer of GDP to a domestic agenda. That debate I contend would be way different in scenario #2. I cannot see the hawks in congress not going ape .... The S&G / German build out spured a 70% increase in military budget in 1940 .. the forces in scenario #2 as they built up I do propose would cause congress to rethink Roosevelts social / domestic agenda ... that is where I propose the resources would come from ..

[Interestingly we are facing the same questions in 2012 ...care for our vulnerable populations or ramp up the military for a possible conflcit in Iran ..]

I do think the Reluctant Admiral scenario is more likely to get under the radar ...

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:00:36 PM

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Well, after the severe losses suffered by the surface fleet at Guadacanal the Americans did find and shift a fair number of warships to the Pacific to compensate, so it did and could happen. I have no doubt that if the Japaese were pumping out 250 tojos a month and threatening Northern OZ in late 1942 that the Allies would have certainly put a lot more aircraft at the disposal of the Pacific commanders. I don't think that Europe first was an unflexible policy and success had its on way of changing things. The American early sucesses in the Pacific caused a shift in this policy and Admiral King was able to send far more force than initially planned to the Pacific theater.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:07:45 PM

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Well, after the severe losses suffered by the surface fleet at Guadacanal the Americans did find and shift a fair number of warships to the Pacific to compensate, so it did and could happen. I have no doubt that if the Japaese were pumping out 250 tojos a month and threatening Northern OZ in late 1942 that the Allies would have certainly put a lot more aircraft at the disposal of the Pacific commanders. I don't think that Europe first was an unflexible policy and success had its on way of changing things. The American early sucesses in the Pacific caused a shift in this policy and Admiral King was able to send far more force than initially planned to the Pacific theater.

I am also proposing that things get started in 1939 rather than 1940 .. I am not sure scenario #2 could get fired up in one year .. that program would have to be in full swing in 1937 and I propose a much different debate in 1939 [which culminated with the 2 Oceans act in 1940 ..]

Certainly the Oil and heavy industry needed to build up scenrario #2 would be more than alarming ..here I am proposing Naval expansion rather than community projects ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:18:01 PM

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BURMA 26 NOV 42:

... One huge mistake was to get armor committed on the East side of Swebo. These units are locked in for '43 as moving them will take months. Probably the best thing to do is pull all the armor North and engage the units at Bhamo. At least the rules state that a line from Ledo can be drawn into China and the IJ are blocking this path now...

If the bolded part of above is meant to refer to opening the Burma Road to China and the auto 500 supply points thereby delievered daily, you are mistaken. This is one of the few areas where the manual is quite wrong.

The Burma Road is only opened from Rangoon, not from Ledo.

Alfred

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:23:37 PM

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So if Rangoon is taken this extra 500 supply a month does not move to China?

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:23:52 PM

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********************************* 27 NOV 42 *****************************************

Wooooosh Woooosh .... thud ..

ASW attack near Truk at 109,106

Japanese Ships
APD Hatakaze
xAP Huzi Maru
APD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
SS Trigger

SS Trigger launches 2 torpedoes at APD Hatakaze
............................
Sub attack near Hengchun at 85,68

Japanese Ships
xAK Hokkai Maru

Allied Ships
SS Swordfish

SS Swordfish launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Hokkai Maru

More bombing in China ..

Ok we reduce Roi-Namur to dust .. it will be a week before this base could be used .. A simple denial of service attack .

Afternoon Air attack on Roi-Namur , at 132,114

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 27

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 41
................

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 18

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 14

Magwe gets its first dose of low level bomber attacks .

Morning Air attack on 6th Tank Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
Vengeance I x 32

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

...............

Morning Air attack on 6th Tank Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 60

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Heavy Rain and the B-24's did not fly ...

Ok more later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:28:09 PM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

BURMA 26 NOV 42:

... One huge mistake was to get armor committed on the East side of Swebo. These units are locked in for '43 as moving them will take months. Probably the best thing to do is pull all the armor North and engage the units at Bhamo. At least the rules state that a line from Ledo can be drawn into China and the IJ are blocking this path now...

If the bolded part of above is meant to refer to opening the Burma Road to China and the auto 500 supply points thereby delievered daily, you are mistaken. This is one of the few areas where the manual is quite wrong.

The Burma Road is only opened from Rangoon, not from Ledo.

Alfred

Ok even though you are the bearer of bad news I am glad I got this clarified .. as I was ready to spend 1.2K AV to move the IJ out of Bhamo ..Ok I have to extend my power projection all the way to Rangoon .. this is not happening soon .. so I guess the Chineese have to learn to eat cake ...or mud pancakes ...

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:30:08 PM

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So if Rangoon is taken this extra 500 supply a month does not move to China?

No.

The Burma Road is Rangoon - Tsuyung. For the daily supplies to be delivered there must be no Japanese units on any part of the road/trail/rail.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:37:26 PM

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So if Rangoon is taken this extra 500 supply a month does not move to China?

No.

The Burma Road is Rangoon - Tsuyung. For the daily supplies to be delivered there must be no Japanese units on any part of the road/trail/rail.

Alfred

Interesting. But I guess what I'm wondering is as long as the rest of it is open, say just after the capture of Rangoon, will the supply flow until the IJA takes the roads in the mountains? For instance until a para-drop at Paoshan?

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 10:54:36 PM

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The supply flows when there is no Japanese unit in any of the hexes between the two sites. It stops when there is a Japanese unit. Then reopens again when there is no Japanese unit.

That means capturing Rangoon alone is not enough. There must be no Japanese unit in Rangoon as well.

A Japanese player who wanted to be gamey would simply paradrop 1 squad on any part of the route to close it.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 11:20:24 PM

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The supply flows when there is no Japanese unit in any of the hexes between the two sites. It stops when there is a Japanese unit. Then reopens again when there is no Japanese unit.

That means capturing Rangoon alone is not enough. There must be no Japanese unit in Rangoon as well.

A Japanese player who wanted to be gamey would simply paradrop 1 squad on any part of the route to close it.

Alfred

That's good news for the IJ. I had thought it would continue to flow until the IJ had captured anything past the junction of the roads into the mountains, the one from Myitkyna and the one from Lashio, or captured bases along both of those roads.

Thanks for the clarification.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/13/2012 11:59:26 PM

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At least we had an interesting discussion rather than my boring combat reports!

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/14/2012 3:07:25 AM

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************************************* 28th NOV 42 ************************************

Strategic Bombing in China ...

Ok we forget to shut off the B-24's .. remember they did not attack last turn ..

Morning Air attack on 6th Tank Regiment, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
Liberator II x 16
B-24D Liberator x 33

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Ok quiet turn ...

December 42 is a big month for Submarine upgrades .. we shall start gathering in our submarines ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/14/2012 6:28:36 PM

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************************************ 29 NOV 42 **************************************

I-169 finds another xAK near Perth .. our ASW is not doing very well which means escorting everything in and everything out ..

Submarine attack near Busselton at 47,150

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
xAK Chilka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Chilka is sighted by SS I-169
SS I-169 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Chilka

Long ranged Lilly's smack us ..

Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Brigade, at 57,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Followed by an Oscar sweep ..

Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Brigade, at 57,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14

No Japanese losses

The IJ have come to play. I have been lazy saving my fatigue ...The USAAF can up over 100 fighters over this area .. we shall see how this turns out ..

The IJ are anticipating the next step in our operations ..

2/29th Division is loaded on xAP Hakusan Maru moving to Guam.

Ok more later ....

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 12:09:08 AM

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*************************************** 30 NOV 42 ****************************************

The Betty's are coming at night again .. they get an airbase and runway hit ..

Night Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

First we go after a tank rgt ..

Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled)
..............
The 77th Inf Reg feels death from above as we attack a possible river crossing ..

Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
Vengeance I x 32

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
Vengeance I x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 35 (6 destroyed, 29 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
244 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Afternoon Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 15
Wellington Ic x 29

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
299 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 21 (3 destroyed, 18 disabled)

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Few squads .. but 87 vehichles destroyed or disabled ..

Another practice bombing run ..

Morning Air attack on Mili Naval Fortress, at 136,121 (Mili)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 10
B-26B Marauder x 22

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

The IJ bomb china ..

More later .... December should be interesting for the IJ ...

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 2:58:04 AM

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****************************************** 01 DEC 42 *******************************

A look at the map below and the USMC 2nd Division is dropping on Narau Island this turn. The IJ have zero detection of this attack. I have brought along the 6 main CV's and 4 CVE's for aircover incase the KB show up while off loading. B17's and B24's will provide an intial air assault. I think there is maybe 20 AV left here ...

Narau Island is key because it builds to a level 5 airbase and that will provide a base for 4E's. advance

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 3:07:16 AM

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I'd say your ahead of schedule. To have 6 fleet carriers must be bliss. On another note, the bombing results from Burma are outstanding. I assume the 77th is in clear terrain? To lazy to open a new game to check (turns away). Even at Mili in severe weather your pilots are putting the eggs in the basket. Looking forward to whats next.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 3:34:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

I'd say your ahead of schedule. To have 6 fleet carriers must be bliss. On another note, the bombing results from Burma are outstanding. I assume the 77th is in clear terrain? To lazy to open a new game to check (turns away). Even at Mili in severe weather your pilots are putting the eggs in the basket. Looking forward to whats next.

I am focused on the 77th in Burma, which is in open terrain as you point out . I will continue to bomb and eventully cross once I have everythng in place.

I have 9 Heavy bomber groups 5 on Tabiteua and 4 on Tarawa that now have 60% acc. but are still avg rookie experince ... so they have ops losses . The B-24's on Tabiteueua can reach Roi-Namur and now the B-17 E's can join them .. the plan is to first take narau island and then start my drive with Jalluit and Milli at the same time in Feb 43.

My CV play has been very very careful ... only committing to battle under the protection of PBY's and Land Based air ... The probabilites of an advantaged exchange are not good IMHO .. so I use my CV's as moble airbases rather than a platform to exchange "queens" ....

I am right on my schedule .. the next steps after the Marshall's will be very very very bloody. No way can I attack the Marianas before '44 -- so its either back into the Solmons or maybe slug it out with Pompe then Truk ,,.I will have soon two bases in which to bomb Truk and have a fight ...we shall see ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 4:36:43 PM

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******************************************** 01 DEC 42 ***********************************

On the 30th Nov 42 I stated it would get intersting ...

BURMA:

The IJNAAF come again at night at Akyab .. one less than last turn ..

Night Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

As Dawn breaks the RAF & USAAF begin their missions -- take out the 77th Rgt holding the Irrawandy River crossing ..

Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 30
Vengeance I x 32

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
191 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

The 8th Tank Rgt is occupying a strategic position on the Irrawandy and they feel the wrath from above:

Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
Liberator II x 16
B-24D Liberator x 24
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
499 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (3 destroyed, 6 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 58,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 15
Wellington Ic x 29

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)

About 1100 men .. 23 destroyed sqds 2 destroyed vehicles .. lots of disabled squads but these recover ..

Later that day the IJAAF comes cordinated first a sweep and then the Lilly's come very low ..

Afternoon Air attack on 23rd Indian Division, at 57,45 , near Shwebo

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

Afternoon Air attack on 18th Canadian Brigade, at 57,46 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 25

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 3000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb

In the end we trade a Trop IIc for a Lilly ..& 40 Canadians ,,,

CENPAC:

Training mission on Milli ..

Morning Air attack on Mili Naval Fortress, at 136,121 (Mili)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 22
P-40E Warhawk x 50

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

We execute a landing at Narau Island TF 1 carries teh 2nd Marine Division command and TF 80 carries the rest .. along with a Base Force and the 2nd EAB.

Pre-Invasion action off Nauru Island (127,128)

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD Gansevoort
DD Frazier
AP Fuller

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
...............

Pre-Invasion action off Nauru Island (127,128)

15 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD Evertsen
DD Banckert
DD Voyager
DD Stuart
PG Yarra
PG Swan
AP McCawley
.................
Pre-Invasion action off Nauru Island (127,128)

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD Laffey
xAP President Madison
DD Buchanan

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Pre-Invasion action off Nauru Island (127,128)

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
DD MacDonough
DD Jarvis
DD Helm
PG Lawrence
PG Hindustan
AP Leonard Wood
DD Cushing

Japanese ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Invasion Support action off Nauru Island (127,128)

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
AP Fuller
DD Gansevoort

Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
...............

Invasion Support action off Nauru Island (127,128)

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
xAP Republic
xAP President Fillmore
xAP President Madison
DD Buchanan
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Invasion Support action off Nauru Island (127,128)

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
PG Hindustan
PG Lawrence
AP Leonard Wood
DD Cushing
DD MacDonough

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
.......................

Invasion Support action off Nauru Island (127,128)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
PG Yarra
AP McCawley
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Invasion Support action off Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Ships
xAP Republic
xAP President Fillmore
xAP President Madison
DD Buchanan
...................

Invasion Support action off Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Ships
PG Hindustan
PG Lawrence
AP Leonard Wood
DD Cushing
DD MacDonough
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Amphibious Assault at Nauru Island (127,128)

TF 1 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 127,128

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

10 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 2nd Marine Div /7
Motorized Support lost overboard during unload of 2nd Marine Div /10
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Amphibious Assault at Nauru Island (127,128)

TF 80 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 127,128

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 3 (0 destroyed, 3 disabled)
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Amphibious Assault at Nauru Island (127,128)

TF 92 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 127,128

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Amphibious Assault at Nauru Island (127,128)

TF 344 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 127,128

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Then the Airpower Comes

Morning Air attack on 52nd Naval Guard Unit, at 127,128 (Nauru Island)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 21
B-24D Liberator x 51
F4F-4 Wildcat x 68

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
312 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on 52nd Naval Guard Unit, at 127,128 (Nauru Island)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 60

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

The IJ cannot help but notice 128 Wildcat's escorting the bombers and do the Math.. My CV's must be here . I suspect "heavy volume of radio traffic" next turn

Then the shock attack ..

Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 484 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Defending force 13649 troops, 292 guns, 223 vehicles, Assault Value = 454

Japanese ground losses:
148 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
52nd Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
2nd Marine Division
2nd USMC Engineer Aviation Battalion
223rd USN Base Force /2
..................

Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 13315 troops, 288 guns, 213 vehicles, Assault Value = 454

Defending force 292 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 188

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 188 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Nauru Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
225 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
2nd USMC Engineer Aviation Battalion
223rd USN Base Force /2

Defending units:
52nd Naval Guard Unit

When the smoke cleared one IJN soldier surrendered ...

However, this landing was much more expensive than the combat report shows ..

2nd USMC Engineer Aviation Battalion DISPERSES!!

I am not sure what this means and I wait for the turn to come back .. but I am thinking an entire Aviation Battalion has been eliminated!!!

Clearly they landed too close in the time period to the original landing even though only 1 AV was left on the target when the smoke cleared ...

Overall a good turn. Look at the map above. Next turn the PBY's extend range 200 miles deeper into the IJ battlespace. By Feb 43 we should have a level 4 base here that will hold 2E's ..

More later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 5:47:19 PM

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I recieved the turn and the situaiton is not as bad as I thought. 50% of the 2nd Marine EAB is disabled. Overtime these troops will rest up and recover. On the SIGINT front as I suspected the KB is at Truk and firing up the boilers. We can see just 4 hexes short of Truk so the USN will get plenty of warning should the KB decide to sortie.

In other news, I was able to help the IJ with their industry. It seems that a factory went into repair mode with repair off. The details and behaviors in this game are mind boggling. I never want this game to be frustrating -- just challenging .. so I do not mind helping with things like setting up WitPStaff or thinking of things to check when results are not as expected.

This unlike maybe some other AAR's where players have the championship of the free world at stake ..

Ok consolidation this turn and getting engineers on Narau Island. We need a level 5 airfield ASAP!

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 6:23:01 PM

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Late to the party here. I agree with you about Scen 2. Congress would of changed things in the military. Look up Perfect war mod.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 4/15/2012 11:14:52 PM

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quote:

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Late to the party here.� I agree with you about Scen 2.� Congress would of changed things in the military.� Look up Perfect war mod.

Yes ...

Japan would have had to build up under the table a little more .. and if Japan had 1M HI/Fuel stocked up .. then they would not have been as desperate position

Instead a policy of focusing on China while keeping the Brits and US negotiating .. as it is oil/fuel was at a crisis stage and ony the seizing of the DEI would save the empire. The miscalculation is briniging the US into the war, which the IJ did not understand our politics at the time.

Right now in this game the IJ are really wondering why they woke up the sleeping tiger ..