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damn good Books - 5/4/2012 11:21:05 AM   
secadegas

 

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Status: offline 		A friend of mine left the town and gave me some good books. Unfortunately I have some of them already:


The World War I Databook
John Ellis & Micheal Cox
Editor: Aurum Press
Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/The-World-War-Databook-Combatants/dp/1854107666


Antony Beevor Colection (4 vols.)
Paris - After the liberation 1944-1949
Berlin - The downfall 1945
Crete - The battle and the resistance
Stalingrad

Antony Beevor
BCA
Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/Antony-Beevor-Collection-Stalingrad-Resistance/dp/1780811365


German battle tactics in the Russian front, 1941-1945
Steven H Newton
Schiffer
Hardcover
http://www.wook.pt/ficha/german-battle-tactics-on-the-russian-front-1941-1945/a/id/4984670


Army Group North - The Wehmacht in Russia 1941-1945
Army Group Center - The Wehmacht in Russia 1941-1945
Army Group South - The Wehmacht in Russia 1941-1945
Werner Haupt
Schiffer
Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/Army-Group-Center-Wehrmacht-1941-1945/dp/0764302663


All books are in impeccable condition.


Prices are whatever you find fair for the book. My expectations are low and i'm doing this in sake of the books rather than to make a profit. At least it must cover postal expenses (i'm in Europe)...


If interested please post here or email jrrusso(at)mail.telepac.pt




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RE: damn good Books - 5/5/2012 9:23:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just out of interest, can you (or anyone really) recommend some really good books for teaching military strategy and tactics, possibly suitable for a relative newcomer to wargames? Sorry if this is a little off-topic.

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RE: damn good Books - 5/6/2012 7:24:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well... depends which epoch, era, and branch? Please, elaborate.

Books that still apply about tactics, strategy, etc:

Sun-Tzu - The Art of War (http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html)
von Clausewitz - Principles of War (http://www.clausewitz.com/readings/Principles/)
von Moltke - (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/317213.Moltke_on_the_Art_of_War)
Major General Sir Ernest Dunlop Swinton - The Defense of Duffer's Drift (http://www.marines.mil/news/publications/Documents/FMFRP%2012-33%20%20The%20Defense%20of%20Duffer%27s%20Drift.pdf)

Hope that helps. Be more specific about the points I mentioned above.

Klink, Oberst

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RE: damn good Books - 5/6/2012 10:34:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, well I recently bought TOAW and wanted something that would be useful with it. I'll look into the books you mentioned.

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RE: damn good Books - 5/6/2012 11:22:08 AM   
Oberst_Klink

 

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Status: offline 		For TOAW related stuff visit this -

http://sites.google.com/site/toawredux/Home/toaw-articles

You will find all articles quite useful. For a tutorial, including slides, visit the Oberst's
Tutorial '41 - https://gefechtsstand.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/toaw-tutorial-2/

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RE: damn good Books - 5/6/2012 4:09:46 PM   
rfrizz


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Status: offline 		I'll add jimdunnigan.com.

And do a search on Amazon for James F. Dunnigan. He is pretty well respected in the wargaming community, and has written many books on both war and wargaming. He's an old-school hex & counter man from the days when you had cardboard units on a foldout, cardboard map. His book are also available on Amazon.com.

In the USA, on Amazon, you can find MANY used books for ($5.00) shipped from the Amazon book vendors. The books often for for one cent, and the shipping per item is 4.99, far less than than what it costs to ship it.

So long as you stick to sellers with sales of at least a few hundred and reputations of 96% and up, most books listed in "good" condition aren't bad, and are quite useable. Usually they are as good or better than slightly shopworn books that go for full price at local bookstores.


As for using Google/Yahoo, even looking for a compare and contrast of strategy vs. tactics, there isn't much good stuff out there because what is out there is often contradictory, and tends to equate the two.

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RE: damn good Books - 5/6/2012 4:58:08 PM   
sad git

 

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Status: offline 		I've read Dunnigan's Wargames Handbook, which was a pretty good introduction to wargaming history. I hadn't realized he was so prolific, I will have to check his other stuff out.

As you say I wasn't having much luck doing random searches. It's difficult to find good material for aspiring Generals, as opposed to the more mass-market kind of stuff. I think O-Klink has given me enough to probably last a few years so thank you!


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RE: damn good Books - 5/6/2012 5:00:49 PM   
rfrizz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

Well... depends which epoch, era, and branch? Please, elaborate.

Books that still apply about tactics, strategy, etc:
[snip]


All excellent books!

One important thing to keep in mind is the generally static nature of strategy. Most all of the strategic concepts that were true in the era before firearms still apply today.

In addition, many tactics have only changed in the details. As an example, slipping a small, mobile force (horses) through the lines to go ape in the enemy's rear is just as important today as it was centuries ago.

Just the details have changed.

And using terrain to shut down the enemy's strong points? Or using a valley to constrict infantry for an ambush? Examples of these exist from 2500 years ago. Yep, Two thousand, five hundred. And flanking? Prehistoric, no doubt. Organized pack animals such as wolves do this fer cryin' out loud!


From what I understand (and I'm a rank amateur) many fundamental concepts of strategy have changed little compared to the changes in tactics. But if you are going to play a Civil War game, you need to understand how tactics applied in the day, or else...

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RE: damn good Books - 5/8/2012 3:55:36 PM   
secadegas

 

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ORIGINAL: Sekadegas

A friend of mine left the town and gave me some good books. Unfortunately I have some of them already:


The World War I Databook
John Ellis & Micheal Cox
Editor: Aurum Press
Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/The-World-War-Databook-Combatants/dp/1854107666


Antony Beevor Colection (4 vols.)
Paris - After the liberation 1944-1949
Berlin - The downfall 1945
Crete - The battle and the resistance
Stalingrad

Antony Beevor
BCA
Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/Antony-Beevor-Collection-Stalingrad-Resistance/dp/1780811365


German battle tactics in the Russian front, 1941-1945
Steven H Newton
Schiffer
Hardcover
http://www.wook.pt/ficha/german-battle-tactics-on-the-russian-front-1941-1945/a/id/4984670


Army Group North - The Wehmacht in Russia 1941-1945
Army Group Center - The Wehmacht in Russia 1941-1945
Army Group South - The Wehmacht in Russia 1941-1945
Werner Haupt
Schiffer
Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/Army-Group-Center-Wehrmacht-1941-1945/dp/0764302663


All books are in impeccable condition.


Prices are whatever you find fair for the book. My expectations are low and i'm doing this in sake of the books rather than to make a profit. At least it must cover postal expenses (i'm in Europe)...


If interested please post here or email jrrusso(at)mail.telepac.pt





A necessary update...

I've already got home for every title but - probably - the best one (if you care for WWI):


The World War I Databook
John Ellis & Micheal Cox
Editor: Aurum Press
Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/The-World-War-Databook-Combatants/dp/1854107666


If somebody interested i can add to the let go list these two:

The First World War - An illustraded history
John Keegan
Pimlico
Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-History-First-World-War/dp/037541259X

The First World War - A new illustrated history
Hew Strachan
Simon & Schuster
Hardcover
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/96409.The_First_World_War


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