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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/2/2012 2:06:27 AM

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It takes some time to cross these was and empty area.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/2/2012 2:39:04 AM

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oh my...looks very bad for moscow.

maybe you can send every single AC of the red air force there to gain air superiority around moscow and fly non-stop attacks against his panzers?

he has to fight for every inch of ground from now so i would build a carpet directly infront of his panzers. if they attack through the carpet he will get causalties and if he tries to surround them he spends MP.

good luck for your battle of moscow.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/2/2012 9:01:02 PM

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Not many fresh divisions are available, so despite being behind the river I fear for my troops here.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/2/2012 9:02:33 PM

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Forces were withdrawn to main defensive line in front of Moscow. In the meantime Tula area was reinforced heavily by units stripped from the south.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/2/2012 9:04:51 PM

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More and more units are railed away from this area, so I move another few hexes east.

From now on I plan to fight, especially near Rostov.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/3/2012 12:19:28 AM

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Fate of Leningrad seems to be sealed. Now it is only the case of delaying him for a few more turns.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/3/2012 12:22:55 AM

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Saper arrived at my main defensive line in force. He will probably assault it next turn, while simultaneously putting some pressure on my flanks.

Tula is encircled and loss of city will expose souther approaches to Moscow.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/3/2012 12:25:22 AM

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He almost catched up with my withdrawing forces.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/3/2012 1:06:40 AM

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I do not even pretend, that there is something like cohesive defensive line.

Doom is approaching.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/3/2012 1:09:58 AM

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All reinforcements are sent here, so every turn makes me stronger, that is why I decided to risk (sacrifice?) few divisions to reopen Tula pocket and buy one more turn for souther Moscow approaches.

My boys performed extremely well. Why can't they fight like that on regular basis?

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/3/2012 1:14:39 AM

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Defences here are weaved out of thin air.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/3/2012 12:44:56 PM

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This is going to be tight!

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/4/2012 4:23:44 AM

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It's another example of how horribly biased the game is against German players.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/4/2012 4:51:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: hfarrish

It's another example of how horribly biased the game is against German players.

are you kidding?

the german player made huge mistakes so far. why his tanks are gimping around in difficult terrain east of novogrod? rthere is no need for a "right hook" against leningrad because his infantry already isolated the city.

his panzers should be around moscow in panzer friendly terrain instead.

dont blame the game for german players mistakes.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/4/2012 4:56:20 AM

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[/quote]

are you kidding?

the german player made huge mistakes so far. why his tanks are gimping around in difficult terrain east of novogrod? rthere is no need for a "right hook" against leningrad because his infantry already isolated the city.

his panzers should be around moscow in panzer friendly terrain instead.

dont blame the game for german players mistakes.

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That was sarcasm...I can attest from experience that '41 is ridiculous right now from a Soviet point of view. Maybe blizzard and beyond is terribly biased against the German, but given the amount of carping you would think that decent Soviet players could tie the German up in knots around Smolensk. Laughable.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/4/2012 5:19:42 AM

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sorry after several hours of working at night i seem to have lost my sense for sarcasm.:)

the first 17 turns are like hell for the russian player now. you can only cross your finger and pray for your opponents mistakes.

the german panzers would beat the hell of the russians when they would operate around tula and get moscow from the south. Kamil has almost no troops south of tula.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 3:47:24 AM

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Once panzers started to face front longer than few hexes my defences became paper-thin and outcome of his next punch could be only one - deep penetration.

Unfortunately I was stupid enough to keep western part of my defence in better shape than units positioned in centre so price paid for my shortcomings is pretty high.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 3:50:28 AM

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I am very uncertain of what will happen next in this area.

Exposed divisions near Tula was obviously overrun, but apart from that Saper didn't take any meaningful action.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 3:53:26 AM

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It looks like AGS caught up with my retreating army.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 4:09:51 AM

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Leningrad is lost cause, so to avoid further losses I moved east.

Simultaneously I increased amount of level bombers and transport planes in the area - city will be supported via air.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 4:12:45 AM

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4/5 of reinforcements go here. Obviously every units is in reserve mode.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 4:14:14 AM

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Rest of fresh units is sent south to protect Rostov.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 4:39:47 AM

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Leningrad pocket was sealed.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 4:42:24 AM

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Surprisingly all quiet on Moscow front.

Units near Tula were destroyed, but there have been no attacks against my main defensive lines.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 4:45:11 AM

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I am really pleased by developments in this area - several German divisions used to capture empty cities. Good.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 4:49:39 AM

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Surprise here. Don was crossed and Rostov partially encircled. Losing few divisions and activation of new Army Group isn't good news.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 12:11:12 PM

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ihope his tanks south of moscow do not turn to the north behind the city.:)

beside that:

i see a lot of german RCT (regimental combat teams) in the south. a opportunity for some soviet action?

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 1:26:34 PM

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i see a lot of german RCT (regimental combat teams) in the south. a opportunity for some soviet action?

Reinforcing Moscow area has absolute priority and any offensive action in secondary area could lead to disaster in the centre.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 8:00:57 PM

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Withdrawal.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222) - 5/6/2012 8:03:03 PM

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Reinforcing all of the lines continues.

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