el cid again
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In a historical scenario, what should the names of US aircraft carriers be? IRL several were named or renamed, for other ships lost, or for battles during the war. How can we, as scenario designers, know what ships will be lost - or what battles fought - during a game war? Except, perhaps, for Bataan, I don't think we can. So I believe the best system is to use the ORIGINAL name of the ship - and not rename it at all. This itself sometimes presents problems - as that name may have been used later. Another issue is WHEN should they appear? Stock (the latest build) has inconsistency. Several appear before they were commissioned! Others appear at (or within days after) they commissioned. Still others appear months later. It seems to me that one standard should be used. Either use the date it entered the theater in any sense, or use the date it commissions WHERE it commissions (even if off map). The manual says a new ship should work up before going into combat. Delaying when that work up starts does not change it is STILL required. Also, if Japanese ships appear when they commission, should not the same standard apply to USN? Here is my suggested names and dates for USN CVs. Historical Name Suggested Name Date Stock Date CV-9 Essex Essex CV-9 21 May 43 19 May 43 CV-10 Yorktown (ii) Bon H Richard CV-10 15 Apr 43 2 July 43 CV-11 Intrepid Intrepid CV-11 16 Aug 43 4 Dec 43 CV-12 Hornet (ii) Kearsarge CV-12 29 Nov 43 2 Feb 44 CV-13 Franklin Franklin CV-13 31 Jan 44 1 May 44 CV-14 Hancock Ticonderoga CV-14 8 May 44 5 Aug 44 CV-15 Randolph Randolph CV-15 9 Oct 44 7 Dec 44 CV-16 Lexington (ii) Cabot CV-16 17 Feb 43 15 Jul 43 CV-17 Bunker Hill Bunker Hill CV-17 25 May 43 9 Sep 43 CV-18 Wasp (ii) Oriskany CV-18 24 Nov 43 11 Mar 44 CV-19 Hancock Ticonderoga CV-19 15 Apr 44 16 Aug 44 CV-20 Bennington Bennington CV-20 6 Aug 44 11 Dec 44 CV-21 Boxer Boxer CV-21 16 Apr 45 13 Jul 45 4 CV-31 Bon H Richard Valley Forge CV-31 26 Nov 44 30 Mar 45 CV-32 Leyte Crown Point CV-32 11 Apr 46 Not in Stock CV-33 Kearsarge Kearsarge CV-33 2 Mar 46 9 Aug 45 CV-34 Oriskany (ii) Not in RHS Not in RHS Not in Stock Completed in 1950 CV-35 Reprisal Not in RHS Not in RHS Not in Stock Cancelled in 1945 CV-36 Antietam Antietam CV-36 28 Jan 45 21 May 45 CV-37 Princeton Valley Forge CV-37 18 Nov 45 Not in Stock CV-38 Shangra La Shangra La CV-38 15 Sep 44 15 Jan 45 CV-39 Lake Champlain Lake Champlain CV-39 3 Jun 45 15 Sep 45 CV-40 Tarawa Tarawa CV-40 8 Dec 45 7 Mar 46 CVB-41 Midway Midway CVB-41 10 Sep 45 10 Sep 45 CVB-42 F D R Coral Sea CVB-42 27 Oct 45 27 Oct 45 Renamed FDR CVB-43 Coral Sea Not in RHS Not in RHS Not in Stock Completed in 1947 CVB-44 No Name Not in RHS Not in RHS Not in Stock Cancelled in 1945 CV-45 Valley Forge Not in RHS Not in RHS Not in Stock Completed in 1946 CV-46 Iwo Jima Not in RHS Not in RHS Not in Stock Cancelled in 1945 CV-47 Philippine Sea Philippine Sea CV-46 11 May 46 Not in Stock
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