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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/18/2012 9:50:16 PM   
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subs: S-35 tries for the CL Sendai TF near Tanna, missing DD Fubuki with 2 fish.

Triton announces its arrival with a hit on Yamaoka Maru near Daito Shoto. Looks like the Jakes here didn't really thwart this attack at least. Later in the day Triton surfaces again and hits a second time. So 2 exploding torps out of 4. That makes up for a lot of misses lately. At least the ship was empty on it's way back to Borneo.

Seal also attacks a TK TF in the shallow water near Hong Kong. I have good ASW here as well. I'll be scraping up some surface forces to patrol this route.

So Pac: Heavies hit Noumea. This time they go for the troops. Only a few squads disabled. No sign of stragglers from the combat two days ago, so all hunter TFs will move back to Noumea to refuel.

Burma: Nothing happening.

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Type TL (Modified) Sugar Able Love
Gross tonnage: 10,000
Length, o. a.: 517'
Beam 67'
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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/20/2012 8:37:11 AM   
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I opened the forum today to see angelina has posted in my thread. That was a welcome surprise. A lady? Interested in my babble and incessant posting of pictures of 70-80 year old ships? Alas, it was not to be. I opened the page to find only my latest post, (with its recently discovered and proudly displayed image of IJN standard tanker designs), but nothing else. Too sad.

Thank you to LarryFulkerson for posting on the main page to have the spam posts removed.


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The year in game is passing quickly. The period of Japanese control is gently slipping away, and now I have to scurry to provide defenses to areas in the second tier of the Solomons, the Cent Pac area, Sumatra and the Andamans, as well as figure out what MLR I should use in Burma. Daunting tasks, but all part of the fun of playing Japan. I actually look forward to defense, but I'm also very aware I have little experience of it in this game. I hope I can figure parts of it out before there is a major shift in game balance.

subs: I also have to get some better coordination of ASW air and sea forces near the HI, where many new subs are popping up each turn.

Today Grayling goes for a tanker near Saisho To and is forced to dive by escorts before getting a shot off.

Near Samah, where the IJAAF 2E ASW group is upgrading planes to Sallys, the Swordfish attacks TK To a Maru in the shallows. not so good for the sub, as the extensive array of escorts pound her with 2 penetrating hits and 2 more damaging misses. This sub has a long way to go toward home.

MLs attack I-166 inconclusively near Karachi.

S-34 goes for a DD escorting CA Suzuya back to safety and repair. The sub misses.

So Pac: The KB makes it down to Tulagi. No issues or sightings by subs thus far. The Judy recno planes are just beginning production (10 a month) and I am desperate to have them now to assess the strength of Nadi/Suva and see if it's possible to hit the 4E base there. With at least 80-90 planes, it would be great to knock some out and maybe hit the port to see if Phoenix and other damaged ships came back there. I don't want to stroll into a buzz-saw of 120 fighters though, so it would be great to have a quick look before committing.

Burma: Nothing.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/20/2012 12:18:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the D4Y C series recon planes: have you noticed how few units can actually fly them? I have just ONE unit and another due to arrive in Spring 1943. The rest of the groups arrive from late 1943 onwards. And that one unit already active happens to be the Yokosuka Ku T-1 that flies the flying boats. The 1 or 2 groups you have that can fly the D4Y1-C are sizes 9 and 18 - are you sure that you want to produce 10 a month?

The J1N1-C Gecko is probably the better recon plane for the Navy, unless you want to have those handful on one of your carriers. The C5M2 groups you already have can fly it, and the same groups that can fly the D4Y1-C can also use it. It has better range, flies a little higher and uses the Ha-35 engine which you probably have and produce in hundreds but which you need less as new, better types of fighters become available, so production wise its better use of resources as you dont need to convert, expand and repair factories as much.

Of course you have probably already built the factory...

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/20/2012 7:50:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Erkki

On the D4Y C series recon planes: have you noticed how few units can actually fly them? I have just ONE unit and another due to arrive in Spring 1943. The rest of the groups arrive from late 1943 onwards. And that one unit already active happens to be the Yokosuka Ku T-1 that flies the flying boats. The 1 or 2 groups you have that can fly the D4Y1-C are sizes 9 and 18 - are you sure that you want to produce 10 a month?

The J1N1-C Gecko is probably the better recon plane for the Navy, unless you want to have those handful on one of your carriers. The C5M2 groups you already have can fly it, and the same groups that can fly the D4Y1-C can also use it. It has better range, flies a little higher and uses the Ha-35 engine which you probably have and produce in hundreds but which you need less as new, better types of fighters become available, so production wise its better use of resources as you dont need to convert, expand and repair factories as much.

Of course you have probably already built the factory...


Ha! Another one of those moments playing Japan where you just sit and think, 'Ahhhh, crap! lets make a note of that and figure out what to do next.'

Thanks Erkki. I never considered that the C5M2 groups wouldn't upgrade to the D4Y1-C. I just thought, Navy, recon, better range, build it.

I'll take a look through tracker and find out what to do next when I get to my game computer tomorrow again. If indeed I find no useful groups now to fly them (I can't take away a Mavis/Betty group for that task), I'll build 20-30 for the future, then check to see if the Irving recon plane that comes next month works in the groups I have now, and if not, I'll check the J1N1-C Gecko and see if that makes more sense. I didn't really look into the upgrade paths as I thought, well, there are only 3 starting groups of recon for the IJN, they must fly that plane. Live and learn.

It looks like for my intended task I may have to send Emilys in and hope they can pick up decent recon results.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/20/2012 7:53:05 PM   
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J1N1-C Gecko = "Irving"!

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/20/2012 7:57:41 PM   
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J1N1-C Gecko = "Irving"!


Thanks. One less to learn!

I do have to say as a historian of Japanese planes and other fighting devices I am a bit of a novice. Part of what I like in playing this side is learning about all of the varieties. I just found a site that goes into some detail even about models that were planned but not built. Many of the stats seem nearly identical to the ones in game, which is different than some other sites I've seen.

http://www.daveswarbirds.com/Nippon/Japanese.htm

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/22/2012 2:05:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Erkki

On the D4Y C series recon planes: have you noticed how few units can actually fly them? I have just ONE unit and another due to arrive in Spring 1943. The rest of the groups arrive from late 1943 onwards. And that one unit already active happens to be the Yokosuka Ku T-1 that flies the flying boats. The 1 or 2 groups you have that can fly the D4Y1-C are sizes 9 and 18 - are you sure that you want to produce 10 a month?

The J1N1-C Gecko is probably the better recon plane for the Navy, unless you want to have those handful on one of your carriers. The C5M2 groups you already have can fly it, and the same groups that can fly the D4Y1-C can also use it. It has better range, flies a little higher and uses the Ha-35 engine which you probably have and produce in hundreds but which you need less as new, better types of fighters become available, so production wise its better use of resources as you dont need to convert, expand and repair factories as much.

Of course you have probably already built the factory...


I'm not sure if it's different in the scenario you're playing, Erkki, but I just double-checked and found that I hadn't been as careless as I'd thought. All three of the IJNAF recon groups do fly the D4Y1-C as well as the J1N1-C Gecko "Irving" later. So I may get some working in a week or two, which is great.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/22/2012 2:48:26 PM   
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I just checked out all the possible upgrades to my C5M2 and patrol units in the game, and not just in the Tracker. Unfortunately it seems that the DBB differs from stock game here, as only the Yokosuka Ku T-1 has the D4Y recon versions on their upgrade list.

Its the same thing with the C6N. I dont think either series are worth the R&D or production much in the da babes...

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/23/2012 8:49:03 AM   
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subs: I-2 is attacked by AMs near Port Kembla. No hits.

So Pac: A strong SCTF came into Noumea today unexpectedly. It must have shot up at flank speed from NZ. I had sent a sub after a reported CL there yesterday.

The Mauritius and CL St Louis caused havoc among the surprised IJN forces. On the day 4 DD were lost and CL Kuma went down. The Allies lost only 1 DD confirmed.

Strangely, in the second engagement, after retreating out of the Noumea hex, the IJN crosses the T but still does poorly against the Allied ships. Looks like we'll have to step up the level here and get some strong CA TFs into the area to keep control.


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Noumea at 115,160, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Tokitsukaze, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Sawakaze
DD Fuyo, Shell hits 15, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius
CL St. Louis, Shell hits 1
DD Bagley, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Blue
DD Wilson
DD Preston


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 50% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
DD Fuyo engages DD Blue at 8,000 yards


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Noumea at 115,160, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kagero
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Kamikaze
DD Asakaze
DD Karukaya
DD Karii

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius
CL St. Louis
DD Bagley, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Blue
DD Wilson
DD Preston


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 39% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Karii at 8,000 yards


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Noumea at 116,160, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kagero, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kamikaze
DD Asakaze, Shell hits 3
DD Karukaya
DD Karii

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius
CL St. Louis, Shell hits 1
DD Blue, Shell hits 1
DD Wilson
DD Preston, Shell hits 6, on fire



Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 26,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 26,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Komazawa, Katsumi crosses the 'T'
CL St. Louis engages DD Kagero at 20,000 yards


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Also, the KB is in position to hit some of the retreating slightly damaged Allied forces which appear to all have been heading toward Suva. It will move down from Tulagi and we'll begin to think about testing the defenses of Fiji for a strike there. There are sigint reports every day from Suva, so there is a potential for a good raid there.

Soryu is arriving post-upgrade near Rabaul and will join the KB after refueling.

Burma: With the added troops n the area supply is becoming a factor. I'll be sending some large shipments form the HI soon. Right now a lot of garrison units arrived so I need the supply to go with them. Some are coming to the Andamans.

Palembang has been providing top ups on supply until the main shipments can arrive.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/23/2012 10:34:26 AM   
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subs: O-19 is still near Balikpapan. An ASW PB found her today, but no attacks.

Skipjack was located near Truk. No attacks.

So Pac: The KB moves out. I put all of the faster CVs in one TF and the slower ones in another. This will be a good test of coordination for such a large TF if we find targets. Tomorrow it should be near Luganville. No rise in detection levels yet.

A 4 BB 6 DD TF will follow as well as another with 3 CA and 5 DD.

Burma: Nothing today.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/24/2012 11:42:40 PM   
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subs: PC Kaki hits S-28 near Belep Islands with one damaging shot.

Halibut is forced to submerge by DDs near Hamamatsu.

So Pac: The KB is still not showing detection level rises. It is near Luganville now.

Luganville is bombed by 4E and 1 Jake is lost. Nothing else of consequence.

Burma: Nothing.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/24/2012 11:50:03 PM   
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subs: Some good sub action off of SW OZ.

I-122 and I-153 both did their jobs today.

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Submarine attack near Albany at 50,153

Japanese Ships
SS I-122

Allied Ships
xAK Zannis Cambanis, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



xAK Zannis Cambanis is sighted by SS I-122
SS I-122 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Zannis Cambanis


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Submarine attack near Albany at 50,153

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
xAK Demosthenes, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage



xAK Demosthenes is sighted by SS I-153
SS I-153 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Demosthenes


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So Pac: The KB continues to sneak South. The SCTF shows a detection increase, one hex away from the KB, but the KB seems as yet undetected.

Burma: Now that more groups ar updated to Helens, some raids will commence. The first most likely against Chittagong, which shows 34 fighters now.

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RE: Wild Sheep's Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A) - 5/26/2012 6:59:19 PM   
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A bit of excitement and a little disappointment today. Some good some bad.

subs: Grayling sighted near the HI. Still getting a lot of new subs into convoy zones. No hits on a supply TF heading out.

O-16 is hanging out near Cam Rahn Bay, which is right on the TK convoy path. Lots of ASW there, but I might move things for a few days to throw him off the track. The sub misses DD Yumikaze with a spread of two.

Amberjack hits an amphib TF near Sorong, taking an engineer unit to one of the islands off of Sumatra. The xAK Taito Maru takes one fish and will try to limp two hexes to Sorong. The rest will high tail it out of there.

So Pac: Now for the exciting part. The KB hits Fiji. There is a lot of CAP at Fiji, mostly P-39s. Now this might seem like a good thing, but it hasn't proven so yet. Today 100 zeros set to sweep didn't fly in the morning phase, and so the strike package went in short of protection and got hit hard.

Many bombers were lost, but many made it through and hit the almost 200 ships in the area!! There were 7 separate TFs in the port plus over a 100 ships disbanded. Our strike mostly took out the fuel laden TKs and hit some CLs. It could have been so much better. We'll have to retire and lick wounds tomorrow, but I'll leave the sweep on to see what that will do.

Several late strikes went in with no escort and got skewered. Those are the breaks. Over 80 planes down on the day, but Only 43 pilots listed as KIA, MIA or WIA. Subs in the area must have helped a lot.

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Afternoon Air attack on Suva , at 132,160

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 44 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
B5N2 Kate x 69
D3A1 Val x 142



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 65
P-40E Warhawk x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 25 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Northampton, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
AM Wallaroo
xAK Benjamin Franklin, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Cummings
DD Caldwell
DD Kane, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Hagood, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DM Montgomery
xAK Pennsylvanian, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Woodworth
AP President Hayes, Bomb hits 1
DD Hatfield
TK Gulfland, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
TK Eidsvold, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
BB Mississippi, Bomb hits 4, on fire
DD Wilson
xAK Hawaiian
AP President Jackson
TK Mobilube, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
DD Bancroft
xAK Robert Morris, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Fuller, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Gulfdawn, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Mauritius
xAK Am. Packer, Bomb hits 2
TK Elsa
TK William Sunoco, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Samuel Adams, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Utahan
TK Manatawny, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires



Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
15 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
16 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
14 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
347th FG/68th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

Also attacking Suva ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Eidsvold
Also attacking Suva ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Kane
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Mobilube
Also attacking Suva ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Gulfdawn
Also attacking Suva ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Northampton
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK William Sunoco
Also attacking Suva ...


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Suva at 132,160

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 83 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
B5N2 Kate x 16



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 53
P-40E Warhawk x 9


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
TK Erling Brovig



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on Nadi , at 131,160

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 12
D3A1 Val x 18



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses



Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters to 4000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes


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Burma: Nothing.

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subs: Swordfish continues to plague the area around Samah. An amphib TF was attacked here but 2 torps shot at DMS W-16 both missed.

AM Horsham attacks RO-67 near Newcastle but no hits.

So Pac: Sweeps went today but were only mildly successful. Not sure why 20k sweeps aren't doing better against P-39s. Some were set to LR CAP, some to sweep.

Looks like only the Wildcats were set to higher than 20k, at 31k. The P-39s seemed to be the ones doing the damage though in the replay.

Any ideas?

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Morning Air attack on Suva , at 132,160

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 96



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 115
P-40E Warhawk x 23
F4F-3 Wildcat x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 5 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
30 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet
16 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet
17 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (8 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
347th FG/68th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes


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Burma: I also tried a Tojo sweep of Chittagong today that turned out poorly. Or at least only achieved parity. Losses were even here after ops were accounted for.

What I don't understand is that even though the CAP came up slowly, and numbers were always in our favor, we couldn't take advantage and get kills. The pilots are good, the planes are good. They did get a good radar warning, but the numbers were never in favor of the defense.


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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 84



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 32
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 4 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
42 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
27 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet *

CAP engaged:
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 8 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 8 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 8 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 17
A6M3a Zero x 30



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.17 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 7 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
No.67 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
No.135 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes


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subs: Kingfish is sighted by a PB near Tandjoengbalai. No attacks.

A big sub hitting mine sound was heard this turn, and it looks like some subs decided to sneak into Singapore harbor. Or they were trying to move through the area and the mine-field was not yet known. Either way, looks like we got one.

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TF 82 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Ships
SS Amberjack, Mine hits 1

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So Pac: The KB moves South followed by 3 separate SCTFs. We'll have a look at Auckland.

Burma: Nothing today.

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subs: I-122 is located by the AM Eland Dubois near Albany. Then it pops up and nails the AM with one torp later in the day.

Trusty is sighted by DD Yomogi near Tavoy. The last ASW Lilys are being changed out for Sallys over here.

So Pac: Buka was invaded. Somehow this remained an Allied base until now. There are just a few dot bases in the Solomons that are still Allied owned. Mostly South of Tulagi. I'll try to take these so nothing happens too easily here.

Burma: The first airfield attack by the IJAAF in months hit Chittagong today. The field was empty, but decent damage was put on the field. It's just good to know I can get things to fly in a coordinated way in Burma. I'm launching from Toungou which has an Air HQ. Tmomorrow I'll transfer all of the Helens to Moulmein out of the way of a retaliatory strike.

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 56
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 88



No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
31 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


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What I don't understand is that even though the CAP came up slowly, and numbers were always in our favor, we couldn't take advantage and get kills. The pilots are good, the planes are good. They did get a good radar warning, but the numbers were never in favor of the defense.


Unfortunately, I think it comes down to the fact the Japanese aircraft just lack the punch to finish off most enemy armoured fighters at this stage of the war. The Tojo's gun value of 10 is obviously better than the Oscar's 6 (if not by much ), but unless you get on an enemy aircrafts 6 o'clock, most passes simply cause damage from anything other than an elite Japanese pilot.

I try and make sure my best aircraft are flown by my best pilots. So far not much joy, but not from lack of trying.

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The AM Eiland Dubois looks much more like a Mississippi river boat gambler's paradise than anything related to a vessel of war.


I agree!

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subs: Near Suva 3 DDs hit RO-63 with 4 DCs causing minor damage.

So Pac: I sent 40 Kates to try a City attack on Auckland, but to no avail. Not one hit.

It's time for the last trick now before withdrawing North to replenish. In a few days I'll try a bombardment run on Suva with a TF led by Yamato and 3 other BBs. I know mines will be there, but if I set them far enough out I've had good luck with them not hitting any previously, (not this game). Hopefully there will be some ships in the hex to hit as well.

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Morning Air attack on Auckland , at 115,185

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
B5N2 Kate x 41



No Japanese losses




Aircraft Attacking:
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Burma: Jocke finally decided to go for the rest of the oil at Magwe today. He sent a very large bombing raid.

It worked. The oil is now at 62 (239).

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 78
Wellington Ic x 31
B-17E Fortress x 44
B-17F Fortress x 8
B-26 Marauder x 44
P-40E Warhawk x 47
P-40K Warhawk x 48


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak
Wellington Ic: 2 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed



Oil hits 121

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x Wellington Ic bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x Wellington Ic bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (19 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(19 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
19 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
77th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 11 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 14 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 12 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes


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This first raid was most likely meant to come after the sweep. All of our fighters took part, and even though the Nicks were nearly at the incoming altitude, they couldn't get to the bombers, where the Tojos from much higher did get in there.

I'm rethinking Nick usage. I will from now on put them in rear bases at 10k CAP where they are not likely to see any fighter sweeps or escorts. In Burma they will move to Moulmein, where I've been stashing bombers after a strike form Toungou. Still in range for Lightnings, but he seems careful with his raids, and likes a lot of support.
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 17
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 31
P-38E Lightning x 23
P-38F Lightning x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 31000 feet
12 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet
7 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet
4 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (2 airborne, 2 on standby, 11 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 87 minutes


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Can't do much here. Too many Lightnings.
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 11
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13



Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed by flak



Oil hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 80 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 113 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
77th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 83 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers


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This is interesting. Obviously those Marauders didn't shoot down so many fighters. The LR CAP is not listed. The Hurris were there as well. Still should have been much better. This is the round I'm not happy with at all. That should be a lot of bombers turned back and quite a few killed off.
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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 13


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged



Oil hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
1 planes vectored on to bombers
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
27th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead
2 planes vectored on to bombers


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This was also a poor showing considering the numbers.
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At Chittagong I also tried to destroy the LI, but again no hits. I've heard LI is harder to hit than HI, but in this turn NOTHING was hit in either case. Now I know not to waste my time here, but think about Calcutta later at some point.

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Morning Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 83 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 57
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 69



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


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No 4Es shot down on the day, but 9 Marauders look to have been knocked down. A few Lightnings and Hurris bit the dust also, which is so much better over our base.

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A quiet day for combat.

subs: Today near Suva I-16 takes 2 minor hits from 3 Subchasers. It's carrying a mini-sub. The idea is to launch after the BB bombardment hoping there are some wounded. Worth a try, I guess.

So Pac: The KB and the SCTFs move north. It'll be a few days before all is in place for the bombardment run.

JPC: A few units are trying to move out of the mountains back to the Chinese territory, but are messing with my supply. I asked Jocke whether they would be moving along soon. He said it might take a while, so if I want to eliminate them, that was okay.

I may send a brigade to just knock them off the road and get on with my forts and field building at Mangtze and Kunming. Oscars are now at Kunming, as are a Dinah group. Helens that are in restricted Chinese groups will operate from up here. No sense paying PPs to move them to Burma when I can get good use out of these fields. It'll give the Allies more to have to close down, and without as much support from LR CAP and sweeps, except the Lightnings. Next month if all goes well this area should be operational.

Burma: Nothing.

A few 120 AV garrison units are moving to the Andamans. Thai units will man the coast from Moulmein to Megui. I own Ramree Island and I think I should start flying stuff in there now that there are enough troops in Burma, just to keep it out of Allied hands. I'll start off with a construction unit, a naval guard, and an AF Coy. See how that goes.

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subs: Lots of subs attacking my ships this turn. Working US torps will hurt.

Seal goes for a TK TF near HongKong. It is sighted by escorts before attacking and forced to dive.

Drum takes a shot at our DDs running ASW near the HI. It misses Mochizuki with 2. It surfaces later in the day and is sighted again.

Snapper attacks a PB in a TF of 13 knot AOs near Jolo. It then comes up again and duds on AO Ondo.

Guardfish attacks xAKLs near Taihoku, running resources back to the homeland. No hits.

So Pac: The KB moves North to within 9 hexes of Suva. Orders are given to the bombardment TF, but because of fueling it won't complete its mission tomorrow. A 4 DD TF will move with it hopefully ready to battle any PTs that might be at Suva.

Burma: Nothing.

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subs: Tambor 'elects not to launch' at some xAKLs near Kme-jima! Getting a bit picky, aren't we?

So Pac: The BB TF moved a few hexes in front of the KB, a full 6 from Suva. It will be followed in by 4 DDs. The KB will move to the West of Nadi and LR CAP the BBs, but will stay 7 hexes out with planes set to 6 hexes so as to avoid the CAP.

There appear to be several SCTFs in the Suva hex as well as PTs, SCs, and probably some YMS.

An SNLF Coy unit will take Stuart Island South of Tulagi tomorrow. Just turning dots red.

Burma: Nothing.

Home Isands: I almost forgot to mention, a lot of needed goodies arrived today! These will head toward the South Pacific, a few to the DEI and about half to Burma and the Andamans.

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51st Construction Battalion arrives at Tokyo
52nd Construction Battalion arrives at Tokyo
53rd Construction Battalion arrives at Shanghai
54th Construction Battalion arrives at Keijo
55th Construction Battalion arrives at Keijo
56th Construction Battalion arrives at Keijo
57th Construction Battalion arrives at Keijo
58th Construction Battalion arrives at Tokyo

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A good result today. This was fun to watch. At least I can say I got something out of the HI it cost to build Yamato.

So Pac: The bombardment of Suva went just about perfectly. The only hitch was several forays by ambitious KB group commanders that hit CAP and resulted in over 40 airplanes shot down. A lot of pilots were again saved by the subs all over the place.

The Yamato and company tangled with a SCTF led by CL Raleigh first. They sank all but one ship in this TF! Banzai!

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Suva at 132,160, Range 5,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Yamato
BB Hyuga
DD Yugumo
DD Makinami
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Natsugumo
DD Hatsuharu

Allied Ships
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DD Ralph Talbot, Shell hits 1
DD Cummings, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Drayton, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Lamson, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Conyngham, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DD Shaw, Shell hits 12, and is sunk



Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 21% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 21% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 5,000 yards
CL Raleigh sunk by BB Hyuga at 5,000 yards
DD Shaw engages BB Hyuga at 5,000 yards
DD Conyngham sunk by BB Hyuga at 5,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Lamson at 5,000 yards
DD Lamson engages DD Hatsuharu at 5,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Cummings at 5,000 yards
DD Cummings sunk by DD Asashio at 5,000 yards
DD Hatsuharu engages DD Shaw at 5,000 yards
DD Shaw sunk by BB Yamato at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Lamson at 6,000 yards
DD Drayton engages DD Natsugumo at 6,000 yards
DD Lamson sunk by BB Mutsu at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Drayton at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Drayton sunk by DD Hatsuharu at 9,000 yards
DD Ralph Talbot engages DD Hatsuharu at 9,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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After that there were several small DD skirmishes (that were marred by one of ours hitting a mine and slowing up the whole small SCTF I think). At least they didn't perform very well, and the DD Shirayuki is severely damaged and will sink tomorrow for sure.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Suva at 132,160, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 1
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Allen, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Fox
DD Electra



Reduced sighting due to 21% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 21% moonlight: 7,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 4,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 4,000 yards
Sugawara, Rokorou crosses the 'T'
DD Isonami engages DD Electra at 4,000 yards
DD Allen engages DD Isonami at 4,000 yards
DD Hull engages DD Isonami at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Allen engages DD Isonami at 2,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Shinonome at 2,000 yards
DD Hull engages DD Fubuki at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Shinonome at 4,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Allen at 4,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Allen at 4,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Allen at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
DD Electra engages DD Shirayuki at 6,000 yards
DD Fox engages DD Isonami at 6,000 yards
DD Allen engages DD Shinonome at 6,000 yards
DD Allen engages DD Fubuki at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Electra at 8,000 yards
DD Allen engages DD Shinonome at 8,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Allen at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Allen at 12,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Hull at 12,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Hull at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Suva at 132,160, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki
DD Shinonome
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius
DD Laffey
DD Bancroft
DD Sterett
DD Wilson, Shell hits 1



Reduced sighting due to 21% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 21% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 4,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 4,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Fubuki at 4,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Wilson at 4,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Wilson at 4,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Wilson at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Wilson at 2,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Wilson at 2,000 yards
DD Sterett engages DD Shirayuki at 2,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Bancroft at 2,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Fubuki at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Shinonome at 5,000 yards
DD Bancroft engages DD Isonami at 5,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Sterett at 5,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Wilson at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Laffey at 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Wilson at 8,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Laffey at 8,000 yards
DD Bancroft engages DD Shirayuki at 8,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Shirayuki at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages DD Shirayuki at 11,000 yards
DD Wilson engages DD Shirayuki at 11,000 yards
DD Shinonome engages DD Sterett at 11,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Bancroft at 11,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Then the BBs went in and nailed Suva fields. A decent number of planes were taken out and Jocke said he had a lot of work to do this turn, presumably switching out groups to heal. A decent number of troops were hit as well. Surprising considering the fort levels the place must have and that it's a level 9 field.

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Night Naval bombardment of Suva at 132,160

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 14 damaged
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 23 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed on ground
SBD-3 Dauntless: 15 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 30 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 4 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 12 damaged
F-4 Lightning: 2 damaged
F-4 Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
B-25C Mitchell: 11 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Yamato
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
355 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (15 destroyed, 12 disabled)


Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 44

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Hyuga
BB Hyuga firing at Suva
BB Yamato firing at Suva
BB Mutsu firing at Suva
BB Nagato firing at Suva


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After this the BBs took on another SCTF led by CL Mauritius. This ship went down in a hurry. The DDs were harder to take out, but several took big shells and could be hurting for the next round.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Suva at 132,160, Range 8,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Walrus II: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 4
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 1
BB Yamato, Shell hits 2
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 2
DD Yugumo, Shell hits 1
DD Makinami
DD Asashio, Shell hits 1
DD Oshio, Shell hits 3
DD Natsugumo
DD Hatsuharu

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
DD Laffey, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Bancroft, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Sterett
DD Wilson




Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 32% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Annesley, J.C. crosses the 'T'
BB Yamato engages DD Wilson at 8,000 yards
DD Sterett engages BB Yamato at 8,000 yards
BB Nagato engages CL Mauritius at 8,000 yards
BB Yamato engages DD Laffey at 8,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Asashio at 8,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Makinami at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages CL Mauritius at 3,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Wilson at 3,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 3,000 yards
CL Mauritius engages BB Nagato at 3,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Yugumo at 3,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Wilson at 3,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Asashio at 3,000 yards
DD Yugumo engages DD Laffey at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
BB Yamato engages CL Mauritius at 5,000 yards
DD Wilson engages DD Makinami at 5,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages CL Mauritius at 5,000 yards
DD Bancroft engages DD Asashio at 5,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Laffey at 5,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Laffey at 5,000 yards
DD Bancroft engages DD Oshio at 5,000 yards
DD Yugumo engages DD Bancroft at 5,000 yards
CL Mauritius sunk by BB Hyuga at 5,000 yards
DD Sterett engages DD Yugumo at 5,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Hatsuharu at 5,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Natsugumo at 5,000 yards
DD Laffey engages DD Yugumo at 5,000 yards
Annesley, J.C. orders Allied TF to disengage
BB Hyuga engages DD Bancroft at 5,000 yards
BB Yamato engages DD Bancroft at 5,000 yards
BB Yamato engages DD Bancroft at 5,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Laffey at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Bancroft at 4,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Sterett at 4,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Bancroft at 4,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Laffey at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
BB Hyuga engages DD Bancroft at 8,000 yards
DD Sterett engages DD Oshio at 8,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Bancroft at 8,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Laffey at 8,000 yards
DD Bancroft engages DD Hatsuharu at 8,000 yards
DD Oshio engages DD Sterett at 8,000 yards
DD Yugumo engages DD Laffey at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
DD Natsugumo engages DD Wilson at 12,000 yards
DD Sterett engages DD Makinami at 12,000 yards
BB Mutsu engages DD Bancroft at 12,000 yards
DD Asashio engages DD Laffey at 12,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Bancroft at 12,000 yards
DD Yugumo engages DD Laffey at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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There were a few other small engagements before the BBs got out to a safe distance.


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Suva at 132,160, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Yamato
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 1
DD Yugumo
DD Makinami
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Natsugumo
DD Hatsuharu

Allied Ships
CM Oglala, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Suva at 132,160, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Yamato
BB Hyuga
DD Yugumo
DD Makinami
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Natsugumo
DD Hatsuharu

Allied Ships
YMS-94, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
YMS-95, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
YMS-117, Shell hits 2, and is sunk





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After this the KB got involved as daylight broke. Scouts found that several SCTFs retreated into range and although some CAP covered certain hexes, many were left vulnerable. A lot of DDs were hit hard and likely sunk. As many as 10-12 may have been sunk on the day, plus some SCs, putting a dent in his escort and anti-sub activities for a short while at least.

SBDs also took off after our wounded DDs but the LR CAP skewered almost 40 of them on the day with one minor hit on DD Isoname leaving 25 system damage and knocking off the forward gun turret.


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Nadi at 128,159

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12



Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 20


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
DD Isonami, Bomb hits 1



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Hosho-1/A with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
Hiyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Suva at 132,161

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41
B5N2 Kate x 10
D3A1 Val x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Laffey
CM Oglala, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Wilson, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Bancroft, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CM Oglala
Massive explosion on DD Bancroft


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Suva at 132,160

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 48 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
B5N2 Kate x 9



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 64
P-40E Warhawk x 13
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses



CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 32100.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Nadi at 128,159

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21



Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Isonami



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Kaga-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Suva at 132,161

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
B5N2 Kate x 7
D3A1 Val x 47



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 5 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Allen, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Sterett, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Laffey, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Fox
DD Wilson, heavy damage
DD Electra, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Hull, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Laffey
Massive explosion on DD Allen
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Allen
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Electra


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Suva at 132,160

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 49 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N2 Kate x 12



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 63
P-40E Warhawk x 13
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses



CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/40th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
35th FG/41st FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/67th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/68th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
8th FG/80th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers


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All in all, a good day for the IJN. Only 1 DD lost and although quite a few pilots went under the water, so did A LOT of Allied ships, planes and pilots. Plus it was fun!

subs: At Suva just after the naval battles, DD Shinonome hits S-31 14 times, with a few direct. It doesn't list heavy damage, but it can't be doing well after this.

Burma: Notihng.

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subs: Under a waning moon and a clear sky mini-sub SSX Ha-5, launched yesterday by the large mother sub I-16, eases quietly into Suva harbor. Even during the early morning hours a few smoking and damaged ships are entering port from the surrounding areas, some being towed, others limping in under their own power. Only a few ships seem to be on patrol duty. Among them is the destroyer Fox.

As the Ha-5 comes within sight of the port Fox turns and moves in it's direction. LT Murananka O., with only his periscope above water does not know if he's been sighted but takes no chances and orders the sub down, changing course to the East, then back out to the South. After 30 minutes of maneuvering he resurfaces to find his bearings. He is further out than where he last sighted Fox. He cannot see anything moving now, as the last stragglers appear to have anchored or moored in the inner harbor.

LT Muranaka is then startled by the sudden appearance of a destroyer not 500 meters away off of his port bow. He realizes quickly that it is moving very slowly and then sees the smaller yard craft towing the ship into port. Judging by the seeming list of the ship he deduces that it is badly damaged and returning from the previous day's battles. He has only a few seconds to calculate the distance and speed of his target and the resulting deflection angle while the ship is in front of him at such an ideal attack position and before its crew sights his own small vessel in the phosphorescence of the South Pacific waters.

At 04:37 he fires two of the new Type 98 torpedoes at what turns out to be the destroyer Wilson, (which had been hit the previous day by both a 12.7cm shell from the destroyer Shirayuki and later by an air-launched torpedo). Less than 30 seconds later he is jolted by a severe explosion and sees the ship seemingly leap from the water in two pieces cut just aft of the bridge.

The remains of the Wilson pirouette over and sink quickly as LT Muranaka steers away and orders the boat submerged for the journey back out to the open ocean rendezvous with the I-16 to report the success of his attack to the Empire. Banzai!

Also near Suva I-176 hits DD Allen, (already heavily damaged by 3 250kg bomb hits), with two torpedoes.

Drum hits supply ship xAK Nisso Maru near Nagoya.

So Pac: The KB and SCTFs move North to Tulagi. Several subs are sighted and attacked near the fleet.

Burma: Many divisions are now in Burma. Seven full divisions are here plus the pieces of the 1st and 2nd armored divisions, still awaiting their arty units to be bought out from Manchuria to reform. This means I need to send more supply here. I'm still struggling to find enough supply from the HI to bring all areas of the Empire to comfortable levels.

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Here are some short updates on ships I've been following during the entire campaign. It's getting more interesting as these ships and units survive, happily, to fulfill the diverse missions to which they are assigned and to take part in multiple distant operations.

DD Shiranui

After spending most of the war with the KB this ship is now escorting an 18 knot AO for quick fuel deliveries to Rabaul and Tulagi. I've resorted to using some of the fast AOs for this as I can't qute get enough fuel to the area to keep things topped up. Mostly due to the overemphasis I'm putting on getting fuel and oil to the HI before the US torps start working. About a TF a day docks at Fukuoka. Some are also now moving from Babeldaob to Tokyo and Osaka.

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This ship has been traveling all over the map since the beginning of the campaign. Currently it is in Tulagi being used as an ASW hunter and as an escort to troop ships in the area.

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The I-25 has been stationed around Hawaii and then in the North Pacific near the West coast during the war. It was DCed and went back to Hakodate to be repaired, and now is back out working the approaches to the Puget Sound.

although it has sunk a ship and has been involved in several encounters, including the one during which it was nearly sunk, the experience level of the crew has not gone up appreciably. (See the next page image of the history of the ship).

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