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New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:49:06 PM   
Hotschi


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This is a somewhat "de-blurred" version of my previous one in Don Bowen's request thread.

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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.
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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:51:11 PM   
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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:52:34 PM   
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:53:18 PM   
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:54:23 PM   
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:55:29 PM   
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:56:50 PM   
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This file is a edit of Big B's original Oakland-Class CLAA, not my original work. If this causes any issues, I apologize in advance.

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< Message edited by Hotschi -- 6/30/2012 5:43:14 PM >

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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 8:58:07 PM   
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Newer version in post 13

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< Message edited by Hotschi -- 6/20/2012 10:34:14 AM >

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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 9:01:53 PM   
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/3/2012 11:53:38 PM   
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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/4/2012 2:42:05 PM   
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Very good indeed. Thanks.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/20/2012 10:27:21 AM   
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Redo of the superstructure - stumbled upon a few pictures which revealed to me that it looks quite different compared with the older CLAA's. The area aft between the fire control radar and #4 turret is mainly guesswork by me.

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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/20/2012 10:31:46 AM   
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/20/2012 4:52:35 PM   
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Appreciate all this fine work!

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/21/2012 2:09:11 AM   
ssquibb79

 

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/26/2012 8:24:07 PM   
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Anything on Des Moines??

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/26/2012 8:50:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Working on it - expecting to finish it Friday this week at the latest. I want to get away from releasing stuff in a hurry, only to get back at it again and again just because it just ain't right.

And I have a 3-year old little dude at home - who, as soon as he sees daddy turning on the laptop, insists on watching caterpillar (excavator?) movies on YouTube

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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/26/2012 10:59:02 PM   
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Thanks, appreciate it. Your stuff is well worth waiting for.

I know about those young distractions. I have a 5 1/2 year old granddaughter who is 100% sure her grandmother and I only exist to do things with her.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/27/2012 1:40:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Thanks, appreciate it. Your stuff is well worth waiting for.

I know about those young distractions. I have a 5 1/2 year old granddaughter who is 100% sure her grandmother and I only exist to do things with her.


You didn't know that? Its in Chapter 2 of the Grandparents handbook. The all important Chapter 3 explains how to pump the child up with sugar right before you send them home

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 6/30/2012 5:39:31 PM   
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But to show you all that I am actually doing something, here's a preview, putting my stuff in comparison;




Ships from top to bottom; Baltimore-Class (Big B), Oregon-Class (Big B), the Des Moines, Worcester-Class - and Big B's Fargo-Class.

Latest stage as of 15/7 - getting closer. Still not satisfied.






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< Message edited by Hotschi -- 7/15/2012 5:25:51 AM >

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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 8/11/2012 9:54:11 PM   
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DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
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CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.
DEAD PERSON: I'm not!

This could be the release version of the Des Moines - the 3rd ship in the row. If it's okay, I'll post the stuff later this weekend. Please tell me honestly what you think - and yes I can take punches as long as it serves to improve things






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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 8/12/2012 9:06:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, here it is - and because it can't be me without changing things over and over again, it's different as in the comparative preview above - the bow section is different.







I've used existing bits and pieces of the original AE-art, namely the fire-control radars, the cones(?) for the forward and aft range-finders. The 5 inch turrets are taken from the Gearing DD's. The hull colour and shading/pixeling (whatever the correct term) is also from existing art done by Big B - no need to reinvent the wheel, and after all I think it should blend into existing art.

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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 8/12/2012 9:11:35 PM   
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"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.

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RE: New Ship Art - Late War US Cruisers - 8/21/2012 3:28:09 PM   
el cid again

 

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as the summer of 1946 - I served alongside the USS Newport News twice - once in the Atlantic Fleet and later
in Viet Nam. In that conflict, she set the all time record for heavy gunfire support per unit time. I forget the
numbers, but coming under fire by probably 152mm gun howitzers acting as shore batteries, she responded
with something like 254 heavy shells (8 inch and 5 inch) in five minutes - and silenced the battery! We -
in our aluminum superstructured destroyers - would run when under fire! What did Nelson say? "No sailor
but a fool" (would engage shore batteries). Unless you were on USS Newport News - or perhaps on USS New
Jersey!

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