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Warning - 6/7/2012 9:34:32 AM   
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Came across this on a Napoleonic Wars forum. Thought it may be of interest here...


FAO: ALL FORUM MEMBERS WHO COLLECT MILITARIA

I know many of you post images of valuable items in your personal collections such as medals, swords and other Napoleonic militaria in showcases and other threads. Please, therefore, take note of the following...

An issue has come to my attention through a forum connected to Rolex watches. It appears a member on said forum posted photos of his Rolex collection which had been taken using the camera on his iPhone. Sadly his collection was then later stolen. It has been suggested (by a US police officer to myself) that thieves may have used the photos to ascertain the home of the member. It appears (and I have checked this out myself with shocking results!) that by default iPhones and some Smartphones embed the GPS location of where the photo was taken in the picture file. By saving the file to your computer you can look at the properties of the file (right click and properties) to obtain the GPS coordinates then use Google Maps to pinpoint the location where the photo was taken. When you upload your images online this GPS information remains with the image. Apparently thieves are now known to be abusing this system.

While I would hope that this is highly unlikely to happen to members of the NWF I felt it wise to post this thread just as a warning. If you do use your iPhone or Smartphone camera to take photos of your valuable collectors items please ensure you turn the GPS tracking information off first - or better still use a digital camera!

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 3:13:17 PM   
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Hmmm..taking a photo of your expensive possessions then putting it up online smacks of either naivety or stupidity.

Not something I'd do myself. Still worth knowing about the GPS thing as maybe putting up phoos of your kids might no be the best idea either if taken with an IPhone.

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 4:05:12 PM   
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quote:

Came across this on a Napoleonic Wars forum. Thought it may be of interest here...


FAO: ALL FORUM MEMBERS WHO COLLECT MILITARIA

I know many of you post images of valuable items in your personal collections such as medals, swords and other Napoleonic militaria in showcases and other threads. Please, therefore, take note of the following...

An issue has come to my attention through a forum connected to Rolex watches. It appears a member on said forum posted photos of his Rolex collection which had been taken using the camera on his iPhone. Sadly his collection was then later stolen. It has been suggested (by a US police officer to myself) that thieves may have used the photos to ascertain the home of the member. It appears (and I have checked this out myself with shocking results!) that by default iPhones and some Smartphones embed the GPS location of where the photo was taken in the picture file. By saving the file to your computer you can look at the properties of the file (right click and properties) to obtain the GPS coordinates then use Google Maps to pinpoint the location where the photo was taken. When you upload your images online this GPS information remains with the image. Apparently thieves are now known to be abusing this system.

While I would hope that this is highly unlikely to happen to members of the NWF I felt it wise to post this thread just as a warning. If you do use your iPhone or Smartphone camera to take photos of your valuable collectors items please ensure you turn the GPS tracking information off first - or better still use a digital camera!

Mark


Not an I-phone user myself but suppose it would be the same for an Android smart phone. Never thought of the kids aspect though ..... even worse

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 5:14:22 PM   
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For all the Androids I've ever had, I had to manually enable EXIF location tracking - it was off by default.

I cannot for the life of me understand why Apple would enable this feature by default. Most people would be shocked to discover that every picture they take and share contains their location data.

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 6:30:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper

quote:

Came across this on a Napoleonic Wars forum. Thought it may be of interest here...


FAO: ALL FORUM MEMBERS WHO COLLECT MILITARIA

I know many of you post images of valuable items in your personal collections such as medals, swords and other Napoleonic militaria in showcases and other threads. Please, therefore, take note of the following...

An issue has come to my attention through a forum connected to Rolex watches. It appears a member on said forum posted photos of his Rolex collection which had been taken using the camera on his iPhone. Sadly his collection was then later stolen. It has been suggested (by a US police officer to myself) that thieves may have used the photos to ascertain the home of the member. It appears (and I have checked this out myself with shocking results!) that by default iPhones and some Smartphones embed the GPS location of where the photo was taken in the picture file. By saving the file to your computer you can look at the properties of the file (right click and properties) to obtain the GPS coordinates then use Google Maps to pinpoint the location where the photo was taken. When you upload your images online this GPS information remains with the image. Apparently thieves are now known to be abusing this system.

While I would hope that this is highly unlikely to happen to members of the NWF I felt it wise to post this thread just as a warning. If you do use your iPhone or Smartphone camera to take photos of your valuable collectors items please ensure you turn the GPS tracking information off first - or better still use a digital camera!

Mark


Not an I-phone user myself but suppose it would be the same for an Android smart phone. Never thought of the kids aspect though ..... even worse

For iPhone users go to location services select camera and turn off. Simple. It's on off by default. The user had to turn it on.


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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 7:26:35 PM   
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It appears that it is set as default... here is some information on it

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 7:29:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: carnifex

For all the Androids I've ever had, I had to manually enable EXIF location tracking - it was off by default.

I cannot for the life of me understand why Apple would enable this feature by default. Most people would be shocked to discover that every picture they take and share contains their location data.


I'm not able to find any setting for the camera that relates to location.

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 7:31:01 PM   
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Scratch that, it's under "geo settings", within the camera app, and it's off by default.



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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 7:42:06 PM   
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You are safe your stalker has been foiled again....

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 7:45:09 PM   
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Yeah, those pics of my collection of boardgames from the 70's were sure to attract violent, greedy, pathological killers.


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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 7:46:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper

It appears that it is set as default... here is some information on it

When you first get your iPhone during set up it will ask you if you want to use geo locations for your apps....something this aricale fails to mention. If you select no you will have to turn it on by each app you use.

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RE: Warning - 6/7/2012 7:50:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

Scratch that, it's under "geo settings", within the camera app, and it's off by default.


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Scratch that. Go to settings.....location services.....turn camera and any other app you don't want to off. This is for iPhone users only.

< Message edited by rogo727 -- 6/7/2012 7:54:24 PM >


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RE: Warning - 6/8/2012 8:59:29 AM   
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Thanks for the info. I turned mine off.

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RE: Warning - 6/8/2012 11:46:58 AM   
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Yeah, those pics of my collection of boardgames from the 70's were sure to attract violent, greedy, pathological killers.



That describes wargamers, right?

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RE: Warning - 6/8/2012 12:54:14 PM   
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I've know about this for awhile. There was a story about someone actually stalking someone based on this. I don't take any pictures at home, so I'm good. And I never post them online.

You do have to be careful of all information, though, if you collect anything. I worked for a man in a pharmacy. Well, he liked to collect American baseball memorabilia. And he had a lot because he had a lot of money. He built a personal office on to the pharmacy and filled it up with all sorts of memorabilia. He showed it to friends all the time. Well, one day one of the people who had seen it called into a local radio show and says, "If you ever want to see a lot of great memorabilia, go to XXXXXX's Pharmacy. He has thousands of dollars worth of stuff there."

My boss comes in and says, "Now I have to move all of this out of here."

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RE: Warning - 6/9/2012 11:16:08 AM   
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This is why I hate mobile phones. They are evil.

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RE: Warning - 6/9/2012 12:39:05 PM   
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I agree, evil...EVIL...EVIL...EEEEEVVVVVIIILL...and tablets.

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RE: Warning - 6/9/2012 1:16:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

Yeah, those pics of my collection of boardgames from the 70's were sure to attract violent, greedy, pathological killers.



That describes wargamers, right?

Yes there is a great demand for boardgames among theives

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RE: Warning - 6/10/2012 2:11:05 AM   
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That's it. Today I'm putting my 25 year old Federation Space in a safe deposit box in Zurich. I can just imagine those bankers looking at me and muttering "Crazy Yank".

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