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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/7/2012 8:57:57 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 1:19:22 AM   
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New Scotland: The Marines reach La Foa. Ironic that after all those horrific losses on both sides in the battle for New Scotland, JJ just let's us waltz in. There is a Naval Guard unit at Noumea but i doubt they are in very good shape.

Ground combat at La Foa (114,159)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3792 troops, 91 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 128

Defending force 248 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied adjusted assault: 18

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE La Foa !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: op mode(-), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2



Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Regiment

Defending units:
45th JNAF AF Unit
46th JNAF AF Unit



Looks like he had every negative combat modifier in the booK! Should be a cakewalk to Noumea if they are in similar shape.

The induced arty barrage at Darwin has a hidden bonus - he is using up precious supply firing his rice balls and fish rolls at you!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 1:54:28 PM   
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op mode(-),


Did you attack in March mode?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 2:22:15 PM   
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op mode(-),


Did you attack in March mode?


Yes...and while singing Halls of Montezuma too..just to show our disdain

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 2:40:28 PM   
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For the Aztecs or JJ?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 3:09:23 PM   
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For the Aztecs or JJ?



Oh yes, for JJ, of course. I have found that very, very bad and mysterious things begin to happen when one makes sport of any ot the pre-Colombian indigenous peoples of Mesoamerica.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 3:13:17 PM   
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By ra way...here is the real reason the Aztec culture was defeated by Cortez with 2 platoons of Spanish reservists. People think it was gunpowder but the real problem the Aztec had was it took them 2 or 3 decades to learn how to pronounce their own names, then when they finally graduate from Aztec High they go out to play some B-ball with the Mayan kids, miss a 3 pointer at the buzzer and get their heads chopped off.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 3:19:28 PM   
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*****************Moctezuma High School, Teotihuacan, 1512******************


Hot, Statuesque (5ft 2in) Aztec Teacher, Ms. Xochitzlatzlcoatl: And you, young man, can you spell your name for us.


Aztec kid with moustache, held back 13 years: Ummmm...let's see....ummm..."X"....and then...ummmm.....


Aztec Teacher, Ms. Xochitzlatzlcoatl: Yes dear, we know it starts with "X" but what comes next?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 3:39:08 PM   
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**************Teotihuacan, after Cortez arrives**************


Cortez and Moctezuma are playing Scrabble for control of the Aztec empire.


Cortez: <self satisfied look> "Xerosis"...that's 4, 8, 11, 13 and 10 for the "X" plus double word score...that's 46! You will never beat that chief. Looks like the Aztec empire belongs to the Queen, or maybe it's the King, I forget.

Moctezuma: <Stands abruptly> Horse soldier cheat. "X" only 1 point in Teotihuacan. <he draws an emerald-encrusted dagger...they begin to struggle>

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 3:48:17 PM   
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For the Aztecs or JJ?



Oh yes, for JJ, of course. I have found that very, very bad and mysterious things begin to happen when one makes sport of any ot the pre-Colombian indigenous peoples of Mesoamerica.


This revenge isn't as mysterious as you suggest, Cap'n. You should have expected it when, during your recent camping trip, you drank pond water to slake your thirst from that temperature-abused authentic Guatemalan ceviche.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 3:56:46 PM   
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For the Aztecs or JJ?



Oh yes, for JJ, of course. I have found that very, very bad and mysterious things begin to happen when one makes sport of any ot the pre-Colombian indigenous peoples of Mesoamerica.


This revenge isn't as mysterious as you suggest, Cap'n. You should have expected it when, during your recent camping trip, you drank pond water to slake your thirst from that temperature-abused authentic Guatemalan ceviche.



Montezuma's Revenge used to be the reason Mexican resorts were cheaper than Hawaii...now it's mostly the headless Mayan torsos on the street.

I know this neurosurgeon who took his family down to this high end resort in Cancun or Cozumel. He, of course, knows better than to drink the water, so he is buying $4 bottles of water in the gift shop for his family to the tune of $40 a day. On the last day he is walking around the grounds and he sees one of the high-end-resort employees filling up water bottles from a tap.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:00:22 PM   
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For the Aztecs or JJ?



Oh yes, for JJ, of course. I have found that very, very bad and mysterious things begin to happen when one makes sport of any ot the pre-Colombian indigenous peoples of Mesoamerica.


This revenge isn't as mysterious as you suggest, Cap'n. You should have expected it when, during your recent camping trip, you drank pond water to slake your thirst from that temperature-abused authentic Guatemalan ceviche.



Montezuma's Revenge used to be the reason Mexican resorts were cheaper than Hawaii...now it's mostly the headless Mayan torsos on the street.

I know this neurosurgeon who took his family down to this high end resort in Cancun or Cozumel. He, of course, knows better than to drink the water, so he is buying $4 bottles of water in the gift shop for his family to the tune of $40 a day. On the last day he is walking around the grounds and he sees one of the high-end-resort employees filling up water bottles from a tap.


Better living through chemistry is my motto. Specifically, the chemistry of ClO2 when drinking the water. I could tell you some interesting horror stories conveyed to me by meat (pork) inspectors from thereabouts if you really want to lose some weight. Remember, kids: just because it's white and pearl-like in the meat doesn't make it 'marbling'.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:00:38 PM   
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How to close the gates on the "biggest POW camp in the world"? When Bathurst is level two, SBD's can fly from the field and make transit to Wyndham dangerous. Ditto when it is level 3 and the Beauforts.


Broome is still well defended but Derby has not been built up by JJ and is lightly garrisoned. I we could get into Derby and build it up quickly then Broome would be capped too.




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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:02:48 PM   
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How to close the gates on the "biggest POW camp in the world"? When Bathurst is level two, SBD's can fly from the field and make transit to Wyndham dangerous. Ditto when it is level 3 and the Beauforts.


Broome is still well defended but Derby has not been built up by JJ and is lightly garrisoned. I we could get into Derby and build it up quickly then Broome would be capped too.



Are you guys putting up LRCAP over Wyndham? That's an effective way of deterring his (almost certain) air evac. of units here to Timor.

ETA: Beware the bait IJN LRCAPed TF, designed to attract your underescorted SBDs into a timor-supported buzz saw. The Beauforts will get greased, as they are poor escorts.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:05:46 PM   
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For the Aztecs or JJ?



Oh yes, for JJ, of course. I have found that very, very bad and mysterious things begin to happen when one makes sport of any ot the pre-Colombian indigenous peoples of Mesoamerica.


This revenge isn't as mysterious as you suggest, Cap'n. You should have expected it when, during your recent camping trip, you drank pond water to slake your thirst from that temperature-abused authentic Guatemalan ceviche.



Montezuma's Revenge used to be the reason Mexican resorts were cheaper than Hawaii...now it's mostly the headless Mayan torsos on the street.

I know this neurosurgeon who took his family down to this high end resort in Cancun or Cozumel. He, of course, knows better than to drink the water, so he is buying $4 bottles of water in the gift shop for his family to the tune of $40 a day. On the last day he is walking around the grounds and he sees one of the high-end-resort employees filling up water bottles from a tap.


Better living through chemistry is my motto. Specifically, the chemistry of ClO2 when drinking the water. I could tell you some interesting horror stories conveyed to me by meat (pork) inspectors from thereabouts if you really want to lose some weight. Remember, kids: just because it's white and pearl-like in the meat doesn't make it 'marbling'.



Nope...I once say a video of "racemose" neurocysticercosis. Santa Maria!

I also once accidentally stuck a spinal needle into a cysticercus lesion in the subdural space of the lumbar spine. That was an "Alien" moment.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:07:10 PM   
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By ra way. It's breakfast time on the West Coast. We might want to ease up a bit.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:10:37 PM   
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How to close the gates on the "biggest POW camp in the world"? When Bathurst is level two, SBD's can fly from the field and make transit to Wyndham dangerous. Ditto when it is level 3 and the Beauforts.


Broome is still well defended but Derby has not been built up by JJ and is lightly garrisoned. I we could get into Derby and build it up quickly then Broome would be capped too.



Are you guys putting up LRCAP over Wyndham? That's an effective way of deterring his (almost certain) air evac. of units here to Timor.


Good idea. We can move in some Wildcats or P-38's when Bathurst is level 2. Right now we need the CAP over the transports there.

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ETA: Beware the bait IJN LRCAPed TF, designed to attract your underescorted SBDs into a timor-supported buzz saw. The Beauforts will get greased, as they are poor escorts.



I meant torpedo-equipped Beauforts. We have a hot-shot RAAF squadron at Exmouth. We cna use P-40K's or Wildcats as escorts.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:12:32 PM   
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How to close the gates on the "biggest POW camp in the world"? When Bathurst is level two, SBD's can fly from the field and make transit to Wyndham dangerous. Ditto when it is level 3 and the Beauforts.


Broome is still well defended but Derby has not been built up by JJ and is lightly garrisoned. I we could get into Derby and build it up quickly then Broome would be capped too.



Are you guys putting up LRCAP over Wyndham? That's an effective way of deterring his (almost certain) air evac. of units here to Timor.

ETA: Beware the bait IJN LRCAPed TF, designed to attract your underescorted SBDs into a timor-supported buzz saw. The Beauforts will get greased, as they are poor escorts.

I think he meant the Beaufort torpedo bombers, not the Beaufighter FBs. Both would get smoked as you say, though.

Cap, it's almost like you guys are planning ahead now. Naw - what am I sayin'?

If you can pull that off you'll have to start worrying about having enough fighters to keep the doors closed. Plus you would have more CAP for your own cruiser and destroyer surface raiders. I like the idea.

BTW, how are things at PH?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 4:38:44 PM   
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Well of course they are planning ahead - I mean, the Cap'n had the La Foa Marines in March mode even though it's only January.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 5:47:40 PM   
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Well of course they are planning ahead - I mean, the Cap'n had the La Foa Marines in March mode even though it's only January.



Don't make us send Lisbeth after you.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 5:55:11 PM   
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Well of course they are planning ahead - I mean, the Cap'n had the La Foa Marines in March mode even though it's only January.



Don't make us send Lisbeth after you.


You mean Sally?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 6:01:50 PM   
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Heh, it took me some time before I understood what you guys were talking about.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 6:36:50 PM   
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You don't always need SBDs with 1000 pounders to take care of shipping - I just sank a Jap CA using P40Es carrying 500 pounders. 22 aircraft @ 100 feet got 13 hits for one flak loss. Don't try and use the P40B if you still have them - no bomb capacity.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 7:07:03 PM   
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You don't always need SBDs with 1000 pounders to take care of shipping - I just sank a Jap CA using P40Es carrying 500 pounders. 22 aircraft @ 100 feet got 13 hits for one flak loss. Don't try and use the P40B if you still have them - no bomb capacity.

Did you train the pilots in LowNav skill?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 8:33:24 PM   
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ClO2 when drinking the water


Chlorine dioxide is effective as you know but tough to carry around ... NaCLO or Bleach is pretty effective .. A capfull of bleach per gallon of water kills most critters .. except for spores like Clostridium difficile which require 1:100 dilution ..better boil that water ..

Upton Sinclar has turned many of High School student into vegetarians ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 9:48:02 PM   
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Upton Sinclar has turned many of High School student into vegetarians ...


I used to pretend to be a vegetarian to meet girls in college. Put a "Save the Whales" sticker on your notebook and hang out at the vegetarian cafe. Quite pitiful really. I gave it up when I realized they didn't shave their arm pits.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 9:53:39 PM   
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And even if the ruse worked and you were invited over for the night....you would be subjected to an incessant stream of gaseous emanations............well....Ok...that's what I heard.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 9:57:34 PM   
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Upton Sinclar has turned many of High School student into vegetarians ...


I used to pretend to be a vegetarian to meet girls in college. Put a "Save the Whales" sticker on your notebook and hang out at the vegetarian cafe. Quite pitiful really. I gave it up when I realized they didn't shave their arm pits.



Hmmm .. I went the opposite route .. I aggravated the veggies ..especailly the evangelical types .. "Look read the Territorial Imperative .. eyes to the front of my head and sharp pointy front teeth -- I was desgined and destined to be at the top of the food chain ..and if you keep eating veggies like that . .your eyes are going to evolve to the side of your head and your going to get really nervous when drinking water ..."

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 10:04:37 PM   
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******************January 5, 1943(c)***************


Darwin/Bathurst/Saumlaki: The retreating carrier taffys were attacked by subs but did not get past the escorts. 17 Helens attacked ground troops at Saumlaki, which now has no CAP. They can't attack the airfield because there isn't one yet.

JJ ordered another arty attack at Darwin. We may be able to attack next turn.

Ground combat at Darwin (76,124)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12466 troops, 115 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 490

Defending force 44519 troops, 764 guns, 783 vehicles, Assault Value = 1406

Japanese ground losses:
692 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)



Assaulting units:
4th Engineer Co
38th/A Division
18th Tank Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
38th/B Division
22nd Ind.AA Gun Co
53rd JNAF AF Unit
107th JAAF AF Bn
52nd JNAF AF Unit
5th Div /2

Defending units:
1st Marine Regiment
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
7th Australian Division
6th Australian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
6th Marine Regiment
2nd USMC Engineer Regiment
22nd Marine Regiment
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
8th Marine Defense Battalion
2/9th Field Regiment
I US Amphib Corps
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
21/22 Field Regiment
369th Coast AA Regiment
South Pacific
2nd Australian Hvy AA Regiment
225th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd RAAF M/W Sqn
134th Field Artillery Battalion
16th USN SeaBees /1

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 6/8/2012 10:13:04 PM   
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And even if the ruse worked and you were invited over for the night....you would be subjected to an incessant stream of gaseous emanations............well....Ok...that's what I heard.


Wait...would these gaseous emanations actually be smoke associated with herbaceous incineration? There *is* a correlative there.

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